I disagree. Bioware chose those choices because they suck. They probably wanted to discourage going with the default and encourage keeping your save file. Not because it is the official "canon".darthzew said:I would say that the "canon" would be whatever the default is. If you didn't play Mass Effect 1, then there's a set of choices there made for you Mass Effect 2.Nimbus said:Yeah, because trailers are totally canon. Never mind that the books go out of their way to not mention his/her gender, and that you can choose his/her gender in game.darthzew said:It's that way by default. All of the trailers and references outside of the game refer to Shepard as male.Nimbus said:Says who?darthzew said:In the canon, he's male.
There are no "canon" version of the choices you can make in game. Shepard has no canon team, personality, gender, background, or anything else one can change in-game. (With the one exception that according to canon, he survives ME2.)
Perhaps canon is a wrong word, but if you ask anyone about Shepard, they'll pretty much automatically say "he." My personal Shepard I play with most is female, but I even don't say "she" unless I'm referring specifically to her.Nimbus said:I disagree. Bioware chose those choices because they suck. They probably wanted to discourage going with the default and encourage keeping your save file. Not because it is the official "canon".darthzew said:I would say that the "canon" would be whatever the default is. If you didn't play Mass Effect 1, then there's a set of choices there made for you Mass Effect 2.Nimbus said:Yeah, because trailers are totally canon. Never mind that the books go out of their way to not mention his/her gender, and that you can choose his/her gender in game.darthzew said:It's that way by default. All of the trailers and references outside of the game refer to Shepard as male.Nimbus said:Says who?darthzew said:In the canon, he's male.
There are no "canon" version of the choices you can make in game. Shepard has no canon team, personality, gender, background, or anything else one can change in-game. (With the one exception that according to canon, he survives ME2.)
Aslong as they don't go for the bad steroetypical Irish accent which is just a shit Cork accent.darthzew said:See, that would have been amazing with awesome-sauce and a cherry on top. I at least would have liked it if you could choose between accents. You know, Irish or British Shepard anyone?HG131 said:Perhaps selectable voices like SR2? Nathan Fillion, Adam Baldwin, Noland North, Steve Downes, Yahtzee, and Liam Neeson.darthzew said:That would have been amazing. I'm not he would fit Mark Vanderloo, but that could be fixed but putting Fillion's face in instead.HG131 said:I prefer man Shep, but I feel Meer shouldn't have been used. Who would I suggest? Well, you should read my posts more, it's Nathan Fillion.
Either that, or Nolan North would have done well. He seems to have the hero part down, although he may be a little overused.
This. I'm an obsessive Mass Effect nerd and have clocked considerably more in-game hours than I've done possibly anything else ever. (Ahem.) Also, as a female, it's not only remarkable that games as of late let me immerse myself further into the universe by playing a character of my chromosome set, but that female characters are given novel things like personalities and thoughts.darthzew said:Or at least should be. Allow me to explain.
Slight spoilers ahead.
The first and most obvious reason I can give, is that Jennifer Hale is a better voice actor than Mark Meer. She can lend a much stronger humanity and flexibility to her portrayal than Meer ever could. Sure, male Shepard sounds great when he's making heroic lines or threatening people, but he just doesn't cut it on the human side of things. Jennifer Hale pulls off both and shines doing it.
She's probably the best voice actor of all time. Look her up if you want to see what all she's done. It's an impressive list.
The second reason is because of the romance with Jacob Taylor in Mass Effect 2. If you get into that, Jacob asks Shepard to share her problems. There are a couple of possible answers, but each of them lend a humanity to the Shepard character that simply isn't present anywhere else. There are other romance plots with emotion, true, but none of them give much of a glimpse into what makes the commander tick.
I think Commander Shepard should have been female from the beginning. Yeah, Mark Vanderloo is a great model for the standard Shep, but what's there is pretty much a standard RPG cutout character.
And on another argument entirely, I feel like Bioware should have given Jennifer Hale the spotlight here. She's done a lot for Bioware. I'm not saying Bioware did anything wrong, just that it would have cool.
And finally, a female protagonist like Shepard would have gone miles for the current big-breasted Lara Croft stereotype prevalent in gaming today. She's exactly what the male character is. It's a powerful argument that video games aren't the sexist things that some people seem to think they are.
I don't want people to think I'm complaining; I'm not. I love Mass Effect. I just think it may have turned out better if they had chosen a female face for the standard Shepard.
Anyway, please, let's discuss this.
While an amusing thought, the raw cost would be prohibitive. Part of the reason Mark Meer was used in the first place was because he was fairly good and, being local talent, we could pull him in to re-voice new/changed lines again and again and again and again and...you get my point.HG131 said:Perhaps selectable voices like SR2? Nathan Fillion, Adam Baldwin, Noland North, Steve Downes, Yahtzee, and Liam Neeson.
Not to mention Samus Aran, full stop.Jackalb said:Whaaaaaat? Did you not play KOTOR?Fallen-Angel Risen-Demon said:I can't stand femi sheps voice to me it doesn't sound human...
Bastila fucking Shan.
That was an awesome scene. One of the best, me thinks.LordCuthberton said:While the huge Male/FemShep debate goes on about voice acting and characteriszation of Shepard, the real gems in the Mass Effect series is the side characters. Shepard is a vessel and could be genderless for all I care.
I think this 3.36 scene is far greater performance by a voice actor in comparison to Meer or Hale.
Even if you went WAY after Commander Shepard's death I doubt you could get away with a non-cannon Shepard. From the looks of things, you'll be able to decide the fate of entire species in Mass Effect 3. The only way you could avoid mentioning that is if the game was set so long after the events of the first 3 games that it no longer has any resemblance to the Mass Effect universe. And it goes without saying that a prequel would not need a canon Shepard.HG131 said:Go before/WAY after Shepard's adventures. Wah la, no Canon-Shep.Internet Kraken said:Commander Shepard is neither male or female. Despite what BioWare claims there obviously is a canon Shepard, but I doubt that this Shepard has a clearly defined gender.
One of the things BioWare as said repeatedly is that there is no canon Shepard. Now this obviously isn't true though, since a lack of a canon Shepard would make sequels outside of Shepard's story impossible. You can make choices that have a huge impact on the world. If BioWare makes games in the Mass Effect universe, there simply has to be a canon Shepard. The choices Shepard makes are to big to simply ignore. However, there isn't any reason they need to define the gender of the Shepard that made these choices, so they will most likely avoid doing so. Hence while a canon Shepard does exist, it does not have a gender.
Regardless, I don't see the point in even debating this. I think Hale and Meer both did a decent job voice acting Commander Shepard. I don't think any of the romances for one gender are better than those for the other (in that they are all equally terrible). It doesn't really matter what gender the canon Shepard is anyways, so it doesn't matter.