..Okay, Dr. wonderful canon.HG131 said:Canon is there is no canon gender or events.Dr. wonderful said:Exile from KOTOR2 is a woman if you wish.
Personally, Shep is who you made him/her out to be.
Even though Canon she is a he.
What do you want? Was Ripley from Alien just a man with tits? Feminists need to decide on an acceptable formula. First the "Bond Babes" were using their sexuality now their chauvinist wet-dreams the first females like Sarah Conner and Ripley were strong female leads not reliant on the trappings of men and now they're woman pretending to be men!?Hopeless Bastard said:Of course, that doesn't mean femshep is a good character. She still represents everything wrong with female characterization, its just shes the rarer form (man with tits).
Definitely, in KotOR Bastila and Mission where far more interesting characters than your other henchmen.Lolth17 said:I agree with you wholeheartedly. I think the female Shepard is infinitely more interesting than the male version. I thought the same thing about female Revan in KoToR. It's just so much more compelling to have a strong, yet vulnerable, female character as the hero in an epic adventure, and frankily, I think Bioware writes their women better than their men, for the most part.
Honestly, that is a HUGE compliment to them, and they really ought to take advantage of that more by making some of their default heroes female. But perhaps it would scare off some part of their market, I don't know.
I actually completely agree with you. To me, the male Shephard feels like a generic sci-fi hero, whereas the female Shephard seems to give her character a unique vibe.darthzew said:Or at least should be. Allow me to explain.
Slight spoilers ahead.
The first and most obvious reason I can give, is that Jennifer Hale is a better voice actor than Mark Meer. She can lend a much stronger humanity and flexibility to her portrayal than Meer ever could. Sure, male Shepard sounds great when he's making heroic lines or threatening people, but he just doesn't cut it on the human side of things. Jennifer Hale pulls off both and shines doing it.
She's probably the best voice actor of all time. Look her up if you want to see what all she's done. It's an impressive list.
The second reason is because of the romance with Jacob Taylor in Mass Effect 2. If you get into that, Jacob asks Shepard to share her problems. There are a couple of possible answers, but each of them lend a humanity to the Shepard character that simply isn't present anywhere else. There are other romance plots with emotion, true, but none of them give much of a glimpse into what makes the commander tick.
I think Commander Shepard should have been female from the beginning. Yeah, Mark Vanderloo is a great model for the standard Shep, but what's there is pretty much a standard RPG cutout character.
And on another argument entirely, I feel like Bioware should have given Jennifer Hale the spotlight here. She's done a lot for Bioware. I'm not saying Bioware did anything wrong, just that it would have cool.
And finally, a female protagonist like Shepard would have gone miles for the current big-breasted Lara Croft stereotype prevalent in gaming today. She's exactly what the male character is. It's a powerful argument that video games aren't the sexist things that some people seem to think they are.
I don't want people to think I'm complaining; I'm not. I love Mass Effect. I just think it may have turned out better if they had chosen a female face for the standard Shepard.
Anyway, please, let's discuss this.
Well put.tellmeimaninja said:Most gamers in the shooter/rpg genre are males. Therefore, the default is male. Simple as that.
any proof of that?tellmeimaninja said:Most gamers in the shooter/rpg genre are males. Therefore, the default is male. Simple as that.
How does what you just said negate my point about being able to decide the fate of entire species, meaning that there has to be a canon Shepard?HG131 said:Well, Shep saving the galaxy and then not dying is canon, so it could also be said that saving everyone again will be canon. Set it a little less than 400 years later (if you want to do a shout out, 2517) so that it's just the Legend of Shepard and you can find the SR-2.Internet Kraken said:Even if you went WAY after Commander Shepard's death I doubt you could get away with a non-cannon Shepard. From the looks of things, you'll be able to decide the fate of entire species in Mass Effect 3. The only way you could avoid mentioning that is if the game was set so long after the events of the first 3 games that it no longer has any resemblance to the Mass Effect universe. And it goes without saying that a prequel would not need a canon Shepard.HG131 said:Go before/WAY after Shepard's adventures. Wah la, no Canon-Shep.Internet Kraken said:Commander Shepard is neither male or female. Despite what BioWare claims there obviously is a canon Shepard, but I doubt that this Shepard has a clearly defined gender.
One of the things BioWare as said repeatedly is that there is no canon Shepard. Now this obviously isn't true though, since a lack of a canon Shepard would make sequels outside of Shepard's story impossible. You can make choices that have a huge impact on the world. If BioWare makes games in the Mass Effect universe, there simply has to be a canon Shepard. The choices Shepard makes are to big to simply ignore. However, there isn't any reason they need to define the gender of the Shepard that made these choices, so they will most likely avoid doing so. Hence while a canon Shepard does exist, it does not have a gender.
Regardless, I don't see the point in even debating this. I think Hale and Meer both did a decent job voice acting Commander Shepard. I don't think any of the romances for one gender are better than those for the other (in that they are all equally terrible). It doesn't really matter what gender the canon Shepard is anyways, so it doesn't matter.
The first one looks like an evil doll-version of Dr. Chakwas, but I do like the 2nd one.Amnestic said:FemShep>ManShep.
Fact.
I wouldn't mind seeing alternative box arts, some with ManShep and some with FemShep.
Is that too much to ask?
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Hawtness.