Crazy naked dude chews a man's face off

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tangoprime

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Raven said:
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I agree, they should have tazed the guy instead. The dude was clearly mentally unsound, that is not a reason to execute someone.

I'm very glad my normal police force don't carry guns... That way when they piss themselves because they are clearly undisciplined they wont open fire on anything that moves.
Yes, they should have tased the guy. That way, he could have completely shrugged it off and continued eating some dude's face. Tasers are not magical, OHKO weapons, people! And people who are COMPLETELY BATSHIT HIGH ON DRUGS to the point where they are EATING SOMEONE'S FACE OFF will not go down just because one, two, ten, twenty people are tasering him.

I hope someone tries to eat your face, and we'll see how righteously mad you can be when that someone gets shot by the police.
First of all, bolding and shouting your points don't make them any more convincing. It's obnoxious and makes your argument seem childish.

Secondly, read this report [https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/publications/Abstract.aspx?id=246034]. The main points are that tasering is successful in it's first attempt in 69% of cases. "These findings suggest that the use of decisive force with the TASER early on in active suspect resistance is more likely than other less-lethal weapons to end the conflict quickly and thereby reduce the likelihood of additional injuries, whose rates increase as second and third applications of force (iterations) are applied.

So if several officers are present, even two or three more applications will bring someone down. There are also a whole host of non-lethal techniques that could have been used such as pepper spray, flash-bang grenades, batons etc.

That the police opened fire on an unarmed man after giving just one warning (according to the news video), then shot him four times shows that the police officer panicked and did not stop for a moment to consider alternative ways to end the conflict. Please note the officer's name was not Judge Dredd...

If you think it's acceptable for a police officer to shoot a man dead for being unarmed and engaged in a fight then I have to consider for a moment, is the police officer "bat-shit insane" or are you?
You left out the part where after one warning, the guy growled and continued to eat the victim's (still alive) face. It was one cop. A victim was in the process of being fucking eaten. If I was the victim, I would've kind of expected the officer to help me out at this point and remove the threat of the asshole eating my face with a bit more than a 69% chance (though in this case, as we saw, even an initial gunshot didn't stop him, so I think we can, in hindsight say the taser WOULDN'T have worked).

If I was the police officer, alone on the scene, a victim was currently being murdered and a clearly crazed man was the attacker, you can be damn straight I'd have made the same call the officer did, rather than possibly becoming a second victim myself, and now putting my weapons in the hands of a crazed cannibal.

Also, to the whole clueless "shoot him in the leg, guns can do that right?" argument people who have no clue what they're talking about always seem to bring up... most people, even those trained in the use of firearms, under extreme stress, don't shoot that well. Police don't get special forces training, police don't get to shoot tens of thousands of rounds a year in weapons familiarization and training like special military units do, and hence, shouldn't be trusted to try to shoot to immobilize.

We always see this dumb argument of "they should've shot them in the arm/leg/etc. instead of just killing them!" How would that same person respond if the officer in question had shot to immobilize, and either missed, and the stray bullet hit a child 2 blocks away, or another good possibility, the round hits the leg/arm, overpenetrates the leg/arm (seriously, 3-4 inches of soft tissue isn't going to stop a LE FMJ load) and kills someone 2 blocks away? Watching TV/Movies and playing video games doesn't qualify someone to try to argue a point about real-life firearms.
 

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Guess I better go find myself a nice remote island. Worked great for the folks at Dawn of the Dea-oh wait.


As for the police shooting the guy: Was it an understandable reaction? Well yes, just about any person on the planet would be scared out of their wits if a person previously chewing someones face off came screaming(face probably covered in blood) and running at you. If you had a gun or any sort of weaponry, chances are high you'd use it. I know I would, or at least run for my frigging life.

Was it a PREFERED reaction? Now that is an entirely different matter. I'd say that anyone that argues that the prefered and reasonable action would be to shoot down crazies, even the ones as obviously as crazy as this, is as crazy as the individual in question. He was obviously mentally insane or having some drug seizure, and was in dire need of help(and of course, so was the guy without a face!).
I dont blame the cop the slightest, but it would've been great if it had turned out differently. People getting themselves killed is just about never a good thing.
 

tangoprime

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Mortai Gravesend said:
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While I didn't really care to listen to the news video(watched it to see if actual footage came up and it didn't) the article I read mentioned that he told the guy to back away from the other guy and when he didn't stop eating him he shot him. Considering he's biting off the other guy's face I think shooting him at that point is justified, the other guy's life is in danger. Though not sure which would be more accurate the article or the video.
My problem is that the police shot an unarmed man. If this were to happen in a place where regular police officers don't carry guns, the police officer would have found another method of taking him down without killing him. But as far as I know this police officer didn't even try.

There is potential for crazy zombie style attacks anywhere. American police are far too trigger happy for my liking. As I said, I'm glad I don't live there.
If someone is in the process of murdering me I just want him stopped the fastest way possible. Safety for him is not my concern. I don't think the police officer should be trying anything that might not work when someone is in the process of being killed.
Precisely. Why should the guy-having-his-face-being-torn-off's life be risked by attempting something that either might not work, or possibly put him in more danger? It was a police officer, alone on the scene, witnessing someone brutally murdering someone and not responding.

Anyone who has a problem with this, please visit the hospital and tell this guy: http://i.imgur.com/KKokC.jpg (WARNING: DO NOT VIEW IF YOU HAVE A WEAK STOMACH, POSSIBLY NSFW)
that you think the officer should've tried something else.
 

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Pinkamena said:
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...You're joking right? If a naked man was chewing on someone's face and didn't seem the least bit fazed by the first shot, I'd put him down too.
Who are you to decide whether he should die or not?

FelixG said:
Bahaha I could tell it was someone from Europe before I even looked at the profile.

How stereotypical.

God I hope if someone is chewing another persons face off you never are the one to come across it.
So the stereotypical European do not want policemen shooting crazy people? Well I'm ok with that. And I must say, I am not against policemen wearing and using their guns, I'm just saying that he could have stopped him in a different way, like shooting him in the legs. But given the circumstance, I guess he freaked out. I would've.
Shoot him in the legs? The first shot did nothing. Hell shooting a sane person in the legs is stupid in a high tension situation because adrenaline can make it to where the person doesn't even realize they've been shot. There is no safe way to disable someone in a life-threatening situation, which is why lethal force is authorized in a situation where your own or another persons life is at risk.

I'm not going to say anything about your views, those are yours and you don't like people being killed obviously, but to restate it: There is no guaranteed way to safely disable someone in a life threatening situation.
 

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I'm always mind-blown how these threads derail into "someone shot the person attempting to rob and/or murder someone else, HOW AWFUL!"

It's not that I'm saying violence is the first option, but come on, he was murdering someone as the officer told him to stop, and the cop fired one bullet at first, which only pissed the guy off. The same thing happened in the thread for the widow defending herself and her child.

I don't understand what makes lethal force ok to use in some peoples eyes....

"Well, we saw him murdering babies and puppies and throwing the bodies at us, but, who are we to decide if he should live or die? We tasered him, but he kept doing it."

Extreme? Yeah, but someone would still condemn if they put the guy down.
 

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Zack Alklazaris said:
manaman said:
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Zombie apocalypse anyone?
Nope, just Florida.
its spreading... yes those are TWO other cannibal stories from less than a week ago.

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/18673043/killer-cannibal-admits-eating-maryland-house-guests-heart-and-brain

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4349654/Cannibal-on-run-after-chopping-up-man-warned-The-Sun-I-cant-stop-killing.html
I didn't mean it was isolated to Florida and thus not a zombie apocalypse. I meant that it is a supremely wacky place and an incident like this might not be so out of the ordinary in that southern heat stricken swamp people call Florida.

As for the other two stories, well the headlines should tell you what you need to know. What zombie gives quotes to police and media, well, other than "BRRRRRAAAiiiiNSSSS?"
 

Mycroft Holmes

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Uh, no. I'm pretty sure bullets in your legs will persuade you to stop running/moving.
Is that what happened with the guy who got shot 106 times with 55 lethal shots to vital organs, who kept shooting back at police officers throughout the whole incident? Or the thousands of other cases where excessive numbers of bullets have hit targets with little to no effect? And this isn't even people who are on PCP. We had a guy on PCP jump out of an LA county ambulance on the freeway, one of his legs was shattered in multiple places and he was hit by a car, he hopped over the freeway wall and hobbled 4 or 5 blocks before he finally bled out and died. It's pretty safe to say that a guy chewing another persons face off is not going to give a shit about a couple bullets in his legs.
 

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umm the cdc is Denying that this is a zombie outbreak and i only live like 40 miles from there should i be worried also mend fences capatha is trying to tell me something
 

Biodeamon

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no timmy lower your god damn hand, it's not zombies.

If i just walked up and bit your face off i wouldn't be a zombie would i? i'd just be some crazy with a craving that only faces could satisfy.

And also if you'll notice they just shot him. if it was a zombie they'd have to shoot him in the head to kill him.

captcha:die-hard. yep.
 

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I understand a news report like this is absolute fodder for zombie nuts, but... Does no one care at all about the victim? Making jokes about keeping him under surveillance for hints of 'infection' is repulsive.

Did any of you actually read the story? You can't tell it's a face anymore. The only recognizable thing visible is one eyeball.
 

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Raven said:
-Samurai- said:
Raven said:
Mortai Gravesend said:
While I didn't really care to listen to the news video(watched it to see if actual footage came up and it didn't) the article I read mentioned that he told the guy to back away from the other guy and when he didn't stop eating him he shot him. Considering he's biting off the other guy's face I think shooting him at that point is justified, the other guy's life is in danger. Though not sure which would be more accurate the article or the video.
My problem is that the police shot an unarmed man. If this were to happen in a place where regular police officers don't carry guns, the police officer would have found another method of taking him down without killing him. But as far as I know this police officer didn't even try.

There is potential for crazy zombie style attacks anywhere. American police are far too trigger happy for my liking. As I said, I'm glad I don't live there.
"I realize that having your face eaten is painful, but do you mind hanging out for a sec while I think of a way to capture the drugged up psycho eating your face? Thanks."

We're glad you don't live here, too.
The use of a taser or baton doesn't require any more thinking than pulling out your firearm and using it, any trained police officer can tell you that.

Lol, this guy must be trolling, hes trying way to hard to lawyer the cannibal. I don't usually say things like this, but if your being truthful, i hope you're next on the menu.


Edit: i also happened to randomly stumble on this, this guy isnt even high, and he had a dog on him and multiple tasers on him and he still kept going for a while. NO drugs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUEmC-sykSw&feature=related
 

Brutal Peanut

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Just thinking about it and seeing the victims face after the attack, weirds me the hell out. *shudder*. BLEGH! It's a nightmare. I genuinely feel bad for the victim and hope he finds some semblance of peace.

That being said, ZOOOOOOOOMBIES!
 

Not G. Ivingname

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YEEEESSSSSS!!

All those plans, all these materials, reinforcing my house against zombies, all these guns, IT WAS ALL WORTH SOMETHING! :D

*Cough*

Ahem, I mean...

Oh no! THE WORLD IS GOING TO END! Now I will have loads of dumb targets walking slowly towards me that I can legally shoot!

The horror! D:
 

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Raven said:
Mortai Gravesend said:
While I didn't really care to listen to the news video(watched it to see if actual footage came up and it didn't) the article I read mentioned that he told the guy to back away from the other guy and when he didn't stop eating him he shot him. Considering he's biting off the other guy's face I think shooting him at that point is justified, the other guy's life is in danger. Though not sure which would be more accurate the article or the video.
My problem is that the police shot an unarmed man. If this were to happen in a place where regular police officers don't carry guns, the police officer would have found another method of taking him down without killing him. But as far as I know this police officer didn't even try.

There is potential for crazy zombie style attacks anywhere. American police are far too trigger happy for my liking. As I said, I'm glad I don't live there.
If I was in their situation, I would do the same thing. Reason?

If I saw a man eating a man's face (endangering the victim's life) and they refused to listen to reason/logic, then it is highly likely they are not fully aware. The report saying TASERs work 70% of the time, not comforting as you assume the man who got shot and kept eating feels pain.

If I had no weapon and stumbled across this scene, I would not risk giving the maniac a second meal and would call for help. Would you approach a man who is naked and is eating the face off another man? Tasers are also fairly short-range I believe (10 metres according to wikipedia). Would you risk the 30% failure rate and endanger your life as well?

If he was closed and reacted to the bullet, sure use a TASER, but I prefer something that is only limited by gravity, than how long the cord is.