Crysis 2 put into perspective

[Lullabye]

[HEADING=1]...and yes, the AI is worse.[/HEADING]

OMG THIS GAME HAS CRUSHED MY HOPES AND DREAMS!!!!!

I seriously looooooooooooooooooved the a.i in Crysis. THEY DODGED CRAP I THREW AT THEM! That's more than I could ever had hoped for in a game. But now......What is this shit?They freaking nerfed the A.I? If I wanted to play Call of Duty then I'd play Call of Duty! STUPID CRYTEK WHY U NO MAKE GOOD A.I?
[sub]I'll still play it though since its better than most others shooters out now...[/sub]
/end rage

 

[archvile93]

OK then. I'm not really sure what you mean by that but I'm not going to hound you to elaborate as you clearly don't want to discuss it.

I'm not going to discuss it because it has been discussed to death and there is plenty of evidence showing that piracy rarely, if ever, equals poor sales. It's a non issue and I'm tired of discussing the issue with people, especially if they haven't done their research.

Thing is, while your right that piracy isn't nearly as bad as companies think it is, that doesn't matter. In business it doesn't matter how things are, it's how people think they are. If companies think the PC is a bad platform because they'll lose all their money to pirates, they won't develop for it. It doesn't matter if this is true or not, they think it is, so they minimize the resources given to it resulting in a poor product or don't bother to make it at all. This is one of the reasons developers are switiching to consoles, they believe it is a more secure platform, and therefore will make more money. Is this true? Maybe, maybe not. Does it matter? Not in the slightest.

 

[WhySoElitist]

[/quote]Crysis 2 is more linear than Crysis 1. Cryengine was fucking made for open non linear fucking levels. And you cannot say it helps in story because in the case of crysis the story is always shit. If you play crysis for story then... may god help your soul.
I do smell a butthurt consoletard from all the unnecessary flame. It seems you were not able to make a good point and instead resorted to ad hominem, keep this up and I would declare victory in this argument.[/quote]


you do realize people like you are the reason so many console gamers hate us. if the story is always shit THEN WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING if you dont like it why do you care if its console or if its pc.
if more PC gamers could be like me and realize that a game is a game, not a pc game, not an xbox game or a ps3 game.
how would pc gamers like it if they made every aspect of games like cod (which are actually made more for the consoles gamers) completley shit for pc. or how would console gamers like it if they had to upgrade their console to play a game. the game was not made for consoles but it wasn't made for pc it was MADE FOR BOTH. get your heads out of your arses and realize that there are bigger issues in life than a game saying press start it is not an insult it is an honest mistake. i am a pc gamer and nothing about crysis 2 has offended me whatsoever

 

[Rad Party God]

I guess Crysis 2 is the new Dragon Age 2.

The game actually looks like it's lots of fun, I'll play it eventually, but not right now. I may get it when it gets discounted on Steam.

 

[Freechoice]

Fuck off with your PC bullshit. Is the storyline worth a toss?

The general consensus is not really.

At least the suit says "armor" and not "ah-mah."

 

[Astalano]

Fuck off with your PC bullshit. Is the storyline worth a toss?

The general consensus is not really.

At least the suit says "armor" and not "ah-mah."

It's armour.

 

[Astalano]

Lastly, I don't blame companies for focusing on the consoles, PC suffered a huge hit in the last 10 years. Illegal downloading almost killed it.

Ignorance is bliss I see.

 

[Freechoice]

Fuck off with your PC bullshit. Is the storyline worth a toss?

The general consensus is not really.

At least the suit says "armor" and not "ah-mah."

It's armour.

Not here it ain't.

 

[Astalano]

Fuck off with your PC bullshit. Is the storyline worth a toss?

The general consensus is not really.

At least the suit says "armor" and not "ah-mah."

It's armour.

Not here it ain't.

Well there people don't speak proper English and change words for the sake of being different.

Also, "honor" is a stupid way of spelling "honour".

 

[Freechoice]

Fuck off with your PC bullshit. Is the storyline worth a toss?

The general consensus is not really.

At least the suit says "armor" and not "ah-mah."

It's armour.

Not here it ain't.

Well there people don't speak proper English and change words for the sake of being different.

Also, "honor" is a stupid way of spelling "honour".

You mean without copying the French? Or actually having phonetic pronunciation?

 

[Astalano]

Anyway, back to the topic at hand please. ^^

 

[Freechoice]

Score 1 for Eagleland!


On topic: Piracy as an argument is bullshit, the nanosuit looks stupid and this [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crysis_2#Development] made me laugh at Crytek for trying to be like the big boys and ending up flying just below the radar.

 

[RA92]

And obviously, Crysis did that because they were run by evil people, not because of the simple fact that the vast majority of the PC gaming master race is made up of pirates who like to brag about how advanced their games are, but like paying for all that advanced technology rather a bit less. Heaven forbid Yerli and his crew make some money on their investment.

There is so much anger towards consoles and 'consolification' on the site recently... can you really blame them for focusing on the console market after what happened last month with the game being leaked on PC?

Blame the pirates, not the developers. The devs just want their just rewards for their work.

Ummm, Crysis and FarCry sold 3 million+ copies each on the PC. BF2 sold 6 million+ on all platforms, around 4 million of which were on the PC. Half Life 2 was leaked like Crysis, and yet it outsold Halo:CE. SC2 hit 3 million sales in its first month. Piracy is rampant, but that didn't stop Steam from racking nearly a billion dollars last year. Note, nearly every single franchise has set itself up on the PC, and after they gained enough revenue, they started working on console development kits - which are damn expensive, and the chief reason why small developers usually make PC exclusives only. Piracy has not stopped games like STALKER, Metro and The Witcher sell millions of copies and warrant sequels. These developers didn't even spend money on large ad campaigns, and gained popularity through word of mouth.

If it's a good PC oriented game, it will sell well.

As for Crysis 2 being leaked, am I the only one who remembers this bit of <url=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/107927-Crysis-2-Leak-Not-As-Bad-As-First-Thought>news?

 

[Beat14]

Well I wasn't expecting this when I entered the thread, I've read just about every comment thus far and they do seem to be some picky people here. I was on the fence about Crisis 2 but I pretty sure after reading all this I just got shoved off.

 

[Vibhor]

Oh, so if a game is designed with console gamers in mind, it's "shit", and only PC exclusives are "good"... By the way, I couldn't possibly care any less about the next CoD.

Highlight the part where I said if its multiplatform it sucks?
And yes if it was designed with consoles in mind and was released on the PC as the same, it would be a porting disaster.

Anyway, how about you get off your entitled little horse, stop flaming and insulting people, and realise that the world does not revolve around you, mate? Maybe, just maybe, if PC gamers spent as much on buying original copies of games as they spent on graphics cards to brag about, then people would cater to them more.

So, any critic is a self entitled prick and instead of noting the problems people should dismiss a critic just like bastard who cannot enjoy video games?

As a PC gamer myself, I have to say that it's people like you who have created the stereotype of the PC gamer as an insufferable, petulant, entitled... well, I was told not to use expletives any more.

As a multiplatform gamer myself I expect the game to be good on their respective systems. I would have raged if the game was shit on Xbox 360 or even a PS3. PC is a special case because of all the "Promises" Crytek made that the PC version would not be hindered by the consoles.
Graphics can go fuck themselves. It may look good for you but I want a game with more features and more customization. That is what buying a fucking PC means. I did not shell 600$ on this monster just so that I could sit here and tell every complainer to fuck off. I bought it for playing GOOD games not crap ports. They promised the PC version would be better than the consoles and apart from high res textures and mouse support,it differs less from the console versions except more problems (thank god I didn't play it on my ATI PC)

If Crytek sell 6 million copies of Crysis 2 on consoles, what exactly do you think that the PC community's whinging is going to matter? At this point, shouldn't PC gamers realise that it's their attitude which makes them lose relevance? If PC gamers were so smart, then maybe they would realise that developers cater to the market where they make the most money, not to the one which has the most inflated sense of self-worth. Think about that.

You see, its the same as Twilight. Everyone (well everyone who is not a fan) knows that the movie is poor but that didn't stop it from being famous. Go see this [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PCVsConsole] page. You seem to be the basic console user.

 

[Astalano]

Ummm, Crysis and FarCry sold 3 million+ copies each on the PC. BF2 sold 6 million+ on all platforms, around 4 million of which were on the PC. Half Life 2 was leaked like Crysis, and yet it outsold Halo:CE. Piracy is rampant, but that didn't stop Steam from racking nearly a billion dollars last year. Note, nearly every single franchise has set itself up on the PC, and after they gained enough revenue, they started working on console development kits - which are damn expensive, and the chief reason why small developers usually make PC exclusives only. Piracy has not stopped games like STALKER, Metro and The Witcher sell millions of copies and warrant sequels. These developers didn't even spend money on large ad campaigns, and gained popularity through word of mouth.

That argument doesn't hold water. You know why? Because, "well, 75% of people who played the game pirated it, but it still sold a lot of units" is stupid. That's like saying, "they stole most of my game library, but I still have a lot of games left, so it doesn't matter."

Why should Crytek be happy with the fact that 3 million people honoured them with their business and patronage if it could have been 10, 6, even 4.5 million? They STILL didn't make as much money off of Crysis as they could have.

PC gamers appear to think that Crytek abandoned them and "sold out" to the console crowd out of spite, when it was nothing but a business decision. The proof lies in the pudding: if they had thought that they could make enough money off of a PC exclusive, then they would have made a bloody PC exclusive. Instead of, you know, buying expensive console dev kits and programming for unfamiliar hardware.

So by your logic all development everywhere should stop because you could have made money if piracy, which, for your information, happens on all platforms in all countries, didn't exist.

Crysis sold 3 million. Crysis Warhead sold 1.5. Very solid numbers for a developer that isn't exactly Blizzard or Valve or even Bioware.

If it had stayed exclusive and fixed problems instead of creating new ones it would have sold maybe 4-5 million. Then their next game may have sold 6. Solid, steady growth regardless of piracy.

Anyway, I didn't make this thread to criticise Crytek, just to point out that Crysis was a better game and I'll reserve major criticism for their next game, that will 100% prove where they're headed.

Also, it's not impossible to make a multiplatform game with an outstanding PC version that pushes the boundaries of gaming, graphically or otherwise. Crytek was just lazy or didn't care in that regard.