Well then, sorry you encountered some people who have no idea what their church actually teaches on the subject of RPGs (hint: nothing). People like that give more reasonable people a bad name.JWAN said:
D&D is Devil Worship
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Well I lead worship (the music) for my church youth group, and I like D&D. How about that?
Some people get pretty crazy and think all of this fun stuff is devil worship. They need to chill out. D&D is just a game.
Some people get pretty crazy and think all of this fun stuff is devil worship. They need to chill out. D&D is just a game.
Seriously, if that is the view of that one person, then it is pretty obvious that she knows VERY LITTLE about her religion, as D&D firstly is a game, and therefore not real and secondly if there is religious iconography to be found doesn't that make the player more knowledgeable about religion rather than to be sacrilegious?
Some people are impressionable. Very impressionable. And some Christians can get pretty defensive (mostly the old, old, old ones). People as a whole tend to judge something based on ignorance, then twist the information to support their point.
Christians aren't perfect, nor do they claim to be. Some people made a mistake driven by defensive but ignorant action, and it's still kind of around.
But she is wrong. The thing about D&D is that it allows for such freedom that if someone wanted to incorporate their Satan worship into the game, they can. It does not mean that it is incorporated into D&D itself, because it simply is not.
And no, not all Christians are like that. In fact, most aren't. They aren't nearly as closed-minded as everyone thinks.
Christians aren't perfect, nor do they claim to be. Some people made a mistake driven by defensive but ignorant action, and it's still kind of around.
But she is wrong. The thing about D&D is that it allows for such freedom that if someone wanted to incorporate their Satan worship into the game, they can. It does not mean that it is incorporated into D&D itself, because it simply is not.
And no, not all Christians are like that. In fact, most aren't. They aren't nearly as closed-minded as everyone thinks.
I'm a Christian and am an avid player of D&D. You aren't worshiping Satan or sacrificing goats in your friend's basement; you are using your imagination to have fun in a make-believe world. Most of the Christians I know pretty much agree with this (one of my church leaders plays D&D with me occasionally)
Those holier-than-thou mentality people aren't real Christians. I could rant and rant about this, but I'll spare the wall of text. Let's just say I'm a transcendentalist anti-dogma catholic (oxymoron, i know) that wants to shoot some orcs in the face with an enchanted masterwork longbow that gets an additional 1d6 lightning damage to each hit.
Just ignore her. It's not worth the time or sinking to her level.
My dad's a rector's warden and me and the sibs all play dnd, and a dozen other RPG systems. Not all Christians are deranged (any more than normal) and honestly I get the hardest time from deranged pacifists.
I remember one e-mail that I got. Someone had joined the Gamers Guild of my university apparently hoping for scrabble, and walked in on a tabletop war game. (She didn't specify which one.)So she wrote this e-mail calling us violent, sociopaths who obviously all believed in violence as a way to solve the worlds problem and basically a lot of other very insulting stuff about ruining society. No mention of religion. I was really upset for a couple of days. It's not fun to be stereotyped, especially as something bad, but don't do it back.
My dad's a rector's warden and me and the sibs all play dnd, and a dozen other RPG systems. Not all Christians are deranged (any more than normal) and honestly I get the hardest time from deranged pacifists.
I remember one e-mail that I got. Someone had joined the Gamers Guild of my university apparently hoping for scrabble, and walked in on a tabletop war game. (She didn't specify which one.)So she wrote this e-mail calling us violent, sociopaths who obviously all believed in violence as a way to solve the worlds problem and basically a lot of other very insulting stuff about ruining society. No mention of religion. I was really upset for a couple of days. It's not fun to be stereotyped, especially as something bad, but don't do it back.
Religious people can be cooky that way. Just tell her to go away, or possibly get your mates to play along with it and the next time she comes around you all go "Hallelujah, we're saved. Praise the Lord" and such. Then her work is done 
Slightly on-topic, I've been gaming on and off with devout catholic siblings for maybe 10 years, and when I say devout I mean real devout: Church every sunday and the brother works for the catholic and has lived in a monastery as a monk. Their parents even hosted several of our roleplaying events and the siblings played roleplaying games with the kids at the catholic church childrens events.
Now those people are respectable religious people
Slightly on-topic, I've been gaming on and off with devout catholic siblings for maybe 10 years, and when I say devout I mean real devout: Church every sunday and the brother works for the catholic and has lived in a monastery as a monk. Their parents even hosted several of our roleplaying events and the siblings played roleplaying games with the kids at the catholic church childrens events.
Now those people are respectable religious people
If Elvira ran D&D...it'd be called Double D&D /bad jokeGloatingSwine said:
OT: I guess you could say "How would you like to meet Jesus face to face?"
What I really meant by "Catholic Church" was the Vatican's stance, because that's the highest Church authority. Though it does suck that your church was a jerk about D&DFbuh said:
Lucifer was an angel who thought he could do a better job of running things than God and turned against Him. I'm not entirely certain if he was kicked out of heaven before or after he raised an army to challenge God. (A third of the angels, I think.)TheGreatCoolEnergy said:
(Judas was the disciple who turned Jesus over for 30 pieces of silver.)
On another note, "Satan" means "adversary". While now-a-days he's often framed as God's adversary, if you look at the book of Job, Satan pops by and God doesn't tell him to GTFO. Satan isn't presented as God's adversary, but Man's, sort of like a prosecuting attorney.
(But then you get to the argument that being a lawyer makes Satan evil. =P)
Gosh, I thought this died in the eighties too!
I'm a Christian and played D&D. This is nonsense. It's simply a group looking for something to demonize so they can feel superior. She doesn't care about your soul for your sake; she cares about your soul *for hers*. It's the ultimate form of Christian hypocrisy.
If she comes back, tell her "No game of dungeons and dragons can separate me from the Grace of God. No sin, no fault. Christ made payment on my behalf, and where he is, I will be also."
That should shut her up. Christians like her talk a big game about grace, but they don't want to admit what it really means. They're too scared too. They lose power and control.
I'm a Christian and played D&D. This is nonsense. It's simply a group looking for something to demonize so they can feel superior. She doesn't care about your soul for your sake; she cares about your soul *for hers*. It's the ultimate form of Christian hypocrisy.
If she comes back, tell her "No game of dungeons and dragons can separate me from the Grace of God. No sin, no fault. Christ made payment on my behalf, and where he is, I will be also."
That should shut her up. Christians like her talk a big game about grace, but they don't want to admit what it really means. They're too scared too. They lose power and control.
But, you don't actually have to kill anything. Charm spells and charisma end battles just as easily as Fireball and nunchucks. For that matter, you don't have to travel to fantastic locations or meet interesting people either. It's the very nature of the imagination to take us to the fantastic places, fighting ridiculous monsters for loot and fame, not the game itself.yellerSumner said:
All right so I wasn't too far off.yellerSumner said:
So pretty much what I said, but better worded with examples. Good jobyellerSumner said: