Dick move?

[Tucker154]

I would have drove around with a friend holding a sighn saying gay pride.I'm not gay or anything but the laughs following the prank would be geat.

But what you don I must say was great. I don't hate religous people.I hate religon converters.

 

[Alpha1Niner]

Okay. After getting my initial laugh out of the way, because this is a new ploy to me, my opinion on the question can emerge, but it's nothing new.

Yes, it was a dick move. The incident with your friend had nothing to do with you and for the most part the class. There may have been a few who were involved with the car praying, but again, you had no business with it. Regardless of the people-who-were-praying's intentions were, whether it was to truly "save his soul" or to spite him and piss him off, this was between him and the group of prayers.

And yes I needed to post again because editing my first post would decrease the chances of this getting read and I don't want to look like I'm covering up my first reaction and I'm not. I thought the action itself was funny and I could picture them throwing a fit and rolling on the ground in "agony" over the music.

 

[instantbenz]

do it every few weeks. organized religion is crap ... loads of hypocrisy ... take pride good sir!

 

[PhantomCritic]

Places like this still exist?

OT: That left me laughing for ages, thanks man I needed that. I would say it was kinda dickish...still as funny as hell though. XD

I salute you good sir.

 

[The Arc of Eden]

You sir, have just made this metal head proud... *Wipes tear from eye* It's beautiful. I wish I could've been there.

 

[Mr. Grey]

Spoiler

So, you're saying that you decided to cause discomfort to people that had done nothing to you simply because you don't believe the same things they do?

People like you give the human race a bad name.

In OP's defense, according to his story, they did it first. Waiting around a homosexual's vehicle and trying to purge him of his 'sin'? That's pretty awful.

Not that it justifies his behavior, he certainly didn't take the high road on this one, but calling the OP intolerant for blasting metal at these people is like siding with the pot because you think the kettle really is a little bit blacker.

How is it awful? They just knelt and prayed for him. That's not awful.

What's awful is if they beat the living crap out of him, what's awful is that they tie him to the back of his own car and then drag him around the parking lot full throttle while the teachers encourage it... yet they never did that, did they?

What they did was peaceful and all it took was the guy's precious time.

They - the OP and his friend - should have sucked it up and moved on. Or just laughed when his friend told the story.

I couldn't give a rat's ass what they did or what he did. They're both the fools here, but to say what they did is awful is just flat out wrong considering worse things have been done to "cleanse" people of their sin and you're just insulting the victims.

In fairness to the OP, who admittedly, was a prick about it.
He didn't bash their faces in either... He didn't go about handing around fliers offering them a chance to alter their beliefs.
In a way, his I suppose what you could almost consider a rebuttal was completely peaceful too.
It was some-what 'malicious' (For the lack of a better word) but as long as he didn't actually harm anyone, then I personally don't see how it's disgraceful.

Granted people should be allowed to practice their beliefs in peace, but does practising your belief in peace involve surrounding a man's car based solely on his musical preferences (and what that somehow implies?)

They were both dicks in the end but the OP was perfectly within in his right to show some seemingly severely narrow-minded people that it's a free world after all.

That was never my point. I said I couldn't give a rat's ass what either of these people did, they're both the fools.

My point was that calling something peaceful and non-violent awful is an insult to everyone else who had acid thrown in their face, burned at the stake or were murdered in order cleanse their sins and be granted redemption.

My statement to the OP was more or less misdirected frustration. It got a bit carried off from the person who said it was "awful".

Regardless, I still say they should have just laughed it off and saved the gas money. It was a pathetic attempt, he should have played "Hard Rock Hallelujah" by Lordi in an ironic manner. Or the "Devil is a Loser". Then it would have been more hilarious due to the situation and the songs' titles.

Also Lordi themselves were criticised during that Eurovision 2006 where even their own Finland's President of the time wanted to veto their entry due to them being "satanic". The same went with some religious ***holes in Greece. Lordi responded in kind the same two songs I mentioned above to dispute such claims, meaning that a satanic band would never make such songs.

Then again I'm sure I'm the only one that sees the potential in this... or knows this useless tidbit due to my curiosity of said band.

To clarify... I still don't approve of his actions, even if he did use my advice. All he did was prove he wasn't better than them.

 

[DanDeFool]

So, you're saying that you decided to cause discomfort to people that had done nothing to you simply because you don't believe the same things they do?

People like you give the human race a bad name.

In OP's defense, according to his story, they did it first. Waiting around a homosexual's vehicle and trying to purge him of his 'sin'? That's pretty awful.

Not that it justifies his behavior, he certainly didn't take the high road on this one, but calling the OP intolerant for blasting metal at these people is like siding with the pot because you think the kettle really is a little bit blacker.

How is it awful? They just knelt and prayed for him. That's not awful.

What's awful is if they beat the living crap out of him, what's awful is that they tie him to the back of his own car and then drag him around the parking lot full throttle while the teachers encourage it... yet they never did that, did they?

What they did was peaceful and all it took was the guy's precious time.

They - the OP and his friend - should have sucked it up and moved on. Or just laughed when his friend told the story.

I couldn't give a rat's ass what they did or what he did. They're both the fools here, but to say what they did is awful is just flat out wrong considering worse things have been done to "cleanse" people of their sin and you're just insulting the victims.

To say that someone born with a slight genetic defect (or whatever causes homosexuality) is an impure aberration, scorned by God, and in desperate need of rescuing from their 'sinful' nature, lest they be cast down into eternal damnation and suffering; that is awful. It's not what those people did, it's the beliefs that their actions represent that I find repulsive.

Yes, it WOULD have been worse if they had brutalized him in some way. I never said what those people did WAS worse than the violence that has been acted out on homosexuals in other situations. You put those words in my mouth; just because I used a strong negative adjective doesn't mean I think a certain action is the be-all, end-all of horribleness.

Bear in mind, that both the nonviolent actions of the students at this school and the violent actions taken against homosexuals elsewhere originate from the same set of beliefs; that homosexuality is, by nature, an affront against God. Actions originate from beliefs, be they violent or nonviolent. I agree that we can be glad that OPs friend wasn't attacked, but I still find it awful when I hear about people who hold those kinds of beliefs.

 

[Palademon]

Start a religion, sir. I want to pray to YOU!

 

[gl1koz3]

Holy shit, man.

Here, get a medal.

 

[Mr. Grey]

Spoiler

So, you're saying that you decided to cause discomfort to people that had done nothing to you simply because you don't believe the same things they do?

People like you give the human race a bad name.

In OP's defense, according to his story, they did it first. Waiting around a homosexual's vehicle and trying to purge him of his 'sin'? That's pretty awful.

Not that it justifies his behavior, he certainly didn't take the high road on this one, but calling the OP intolerant for blasting metal at these people is like siding with the pot because you think the kettle really is a little bit blacker.

How is it awful? They just knelt and prayed for him. That's not awful.

What's awful is if they beat the living crap out of him, what's awful is that they tie him to the back of his own car and then drag him around the parking lot full throttle while the teachers encourage it... yet they never did that, did they?

What they did was peaceful and all it took was the guy's precious time.

They - the OP and his friend - should have sucked it up and moved on. Or just laughed when his friend told the story.

I couldn't give a rat's ass what they did or what he did. They're both the fools here, but to say what they did is awful is just flat out wrong considering worse things have been done to "cleanse" people of their sin and you're just insulting the victims.

To say that someone born with a slight genetic defect (or whatever causes homosexuality) is an impure aberration, scorned by God, and in desperate need of rescuing from their 'sinful' nature, lest they be cast down into eternal damnation and suffering; that is awful. It's not what those people did, it's the beliefs that their actions represent that I find repulsive.

Yes, it WOULD have been worse if they had brutalized him in some way. I never said what those people did WAS worse than the violence that has been acted out on homosexuals in other situations. You put those words in my mouth; just because I used a strong negative adjective doesn't mean I think a certain action is the be-all, end-all of horribleness.

Bear in mind, that both the nonviolent actions of the students at this school and the violent actions taken against homosexuals elsewhere originate from the same set of beliefs; that homosexuality is, by nature, an affront against God. Actions originate from beliefs, be they violent or nonviolent. I agree that we can be glad that OPs friend wasn't attacked, but I still find it awful when I hear about people who hold those kinds of beliefs.

I still say that he's calling his friend gay for listening to Yellow Card in a means that he is a pansy, not that he is in fact a homosexual.

You said it was pretty awful... which implies that it was, in a way, awful. What they did was laughable and kind, not awful. Targeting him for homosexuality would have been much more brutal than that, but considering what kind of people he was dealing with he would have most likely walked home with a pamphlet or a call from school asking that he attends a special camp to learn to no longer be homosexual.

That didn't happen, which is my strongest reason to believe he isn't a homosexual and that the OP used it as a means to say that his friend is inferior by listening to Yellow Card -- probably an inside joke we're unaware of.

I think they just prayed for his soul because he listened to the genre known as Metal.

EDIT:
But yes, it would be awful if they did that. In the sense of insulting him and targeting him for something he can't help.

I apologize, I didn't know you thought he was actually a homosexual. If I knew that, I wouldn't have been that harsh, I am truly sorry.

EDIT2:
If you're wondering how I missed that, I tend to do that. It was already in my mind that the guy was using it as an insult so I missed the word entirely...

Just like when I'm looking for something and it's right in front of me.

 

[DC_Josh]

Problem is, although they should be allowed to live their lives dedicated to a faith or code of their choosing, do we have the right to change them? Although I would sorely like to open up a sorcerer's shop next door and wear my slayer t-shirt to work, would it really help?

But, in another sense as men and women of intelligence and understanding, do we not have an obligation to teach these obviously sheltered and inconsiderate people how misguided their actions are?

Thoughts?

 

[V TheSystem V]

That is freaking hilarious and I plan on doing something like that some day.

I was banned from Sunday school for singing hymns in a chipmunk voice when I was younger. Not as evil but it was deemed disrespectful.

People who take religion too seriously should be stoned. It helps, that's all I'm saying!

 

[Ickorus]

Sometimes a dick move is the best move, I congratulate you.

Spoiler: Here's a cookie.

 

[DanDeFool]

Spoiler

So, you're saying that you decided to cause discomfort to people that had done nothing to you simply because you don't believe the same things they do?

People like you give the human race a bad name.

In OP's defense, according to his story, they did it first. Waiting around a homosexual's vehicle and trying to purge him of his 'sin'? That's pretty awful.

Not that it justifies his behavior, he certainly didn't take the high road on this one, but calling the OP intolerant for blasting metal at these people is like siding with the pot because you think the kettle really is a little bit blacker.

How is it awful? They just knelt and prayed for him. That's not awful.

What's awful is if they beat the living crap out of him, what's awful is that they tie him to the back of his own car and then drag him around the parking lot full throttle while the teachers encourage it... yet they never did that, did they?

What they did was peaceful and all it took was the guy's precious time.

They - the OP and his friend - should have sucked it up and moved on. Or just laughed when his friend told the story.

I couldn't give a rat's ass what they did or what he did. They're both the fools here, but to say what they did is awful is just flat out wrong considering worse things have been done to "cleanse" people of their sin and you're just insulting the victims.

To say that someone born with a slight genetic defect (or whatever causes homosexuality) is an impure aberration, scorned by God, and in desperate need of rescuing from their 'sinful' nature, lest they be cast down into eternal damnation and suffering; that is awful. It's not what those people did, it's the beliefs that their actions represent that I find repulsive.

Yes, it WOULD have been worse if they had brutalized him in some way. I never said what those people did WAS worse than the violence that has been acted out on homosexuals in other situations. You put those words in my mouth; just because I used a strong negative adjective doesn't mean I think a certain action is the be-all, end-all of horribleness.

Bear in mind, that both the nonviolent actions of the students at this school and the violent actions taken against homosexuals elsewhere originate from the same set of beliefs; that homosexuality is, by nature, an affront against God. Actions originate from beliefs, be they violent or nonviolent. I agree that we can be glad that OPs friend wasn't attacked, but I still find it awful when I hear about people who hold those kinds of beliefs.

I still say that he's calling his friend gay for listening to Yellow Card in a means that he is a pansy, not that he is in fact a homosexual.

You said it was pretty awful... which implies that it was, in a way, awful. What they did was laughable and kind, not awful. Targeting him for homosexuality would have been much more brutal than that, but considering what kind of people he was dealing with he would have most likely walked home with a pamphlet or a call from school asking that he attends a special camp to learn to no longer be homosexual.

That didn't happen, which is my strongest reason to believe he isn't a homosexual and that the OP used it as a means to say that his friend is inferior by listening to Yellow Card -- probably an inside joke we're unaware of.

I think they just prayed for his soul because he listened to the genre known as Metal.

EDIT:
But yes, it would be awful if they did that. In the sense of insulting him and targeting him for something he can't help.

I apologize, I didn't know you thought he was actually a homosexual. If I knew that, I wouldn't have been that harsh, I am truly sorry.

EDIT2:
If you're wondering how I missed that, I tend to do that. It was already in my mind that the guy was using it as an insult so I missed the word entirely...

Just like when I'm looking for something and it's right in front of me.

No worries. I can see how you might have read "*yes, he is gay*" as 'he listens to music I think is gay' instead of 'he is a literal homosexual'. In that case, your position would have been completely justified.

 

[similar.squirrel]

Seeing as you can't make out the vocals in the first two songs, your plan may not have worked as intended.
That Slayer song was a nice choice, though. Much as I despise Slayer.

And yes, it was something of a dick move. I'm sure the students go their of their own free will. How would you react if I started criticising your taste in music loudly and in public?

 

[AnAngryMoose]

Yeah, that was pretty dicky.
Still funny, though.

This was my exact response. Hilarious but a bit of a dick move. Although, I agree with you, OP. People that take religion that seriously and try to ram it down your throat are pretty annoying. Normally I respect other people's religions though.

 

[Mr. Grey]

Spoiler

So, you're saying that you decided to cause discomfort to people that had done nothing to you simply because you don't believe the same things they do?

People like you give the human race a bad name.

In OP's defense, according to his story, they did it first. Waiting around a homosexual's vehicle and trying to purge him of his 'sin'? That's pretty awful.

Not that it justifies his behavior, he certainly didn't take the high road on this one, but calling the OP intolerant for blasting metal at these people is like siding with the pot because you think the kettle really is a little bit blacker.

How is it awful? They just knelt and prayed for him. That's not awful.

What's awful is if they beat the living crap out of him, what's awful is that they tie him to the back of his own car and then drag him around the parking lot full throttle while the teachers encourage it... yet they never did that, did they?

What they did was peaceful and all it took was the guy's precious time.

They - the OP and his friend - should have sucked it up and moved on. Or just laughed when his friend told the story.

I couldn't give a rat's ass what they did or what he did. They're both the fools here, but to say what they did is awful is just flat out wrong considering worse things have been done to "cleanse" people of their sin and you're just insulting the victims.

To say that someone born with a slight genetic defect (or whatever causes homosexuality) is an impure aberration, scorned by God, and in desperate need of rescuing from their 'sinful' nature, lest they be cast down into eternal damnation and suffering; that is awful. It's not what those people did, it's the beliefs that their actions represent that I find repulsive.

Yes, it WOULD have been worse if they had brutalized him in some way. I never said what those people did WAS worse than the violence that has been acted out on homosexuals in other situations. You put those words in my mouth; just because I used a strong negative adjective doesn't mean I think a certain action is the be-all, end-all of horribleness.

Bear in mind, that both the nonviolent actions of the students at this school and the violent actions taken against homosexuals elsewhere originate from the same set of beliefs; that homosexuality is, by nature, an affront against God. Actions originate from beliefs, be they violent or nonviolent. I agree that we can be glad that OPs friend wasn't attacked, but I still find it awful when I hear about people who hold those kinds of beliefs.

I still say that he's calling his friend gay for listening to Yellow Card in a means that he is a pansy, not that he is in fact a homosexual.

You said it was pretty awful... which implies that it was, in a way, awful. What they did was laughable and kind, not awful. Targeting him for homosexuality would have been much more brutal than that, but considering what kind of people he was dealing with he would have most likely walked home with a pamphlet or a call from school asking that he attends a special camp to learn to no longer be homosexual.

That didn't happen, which is my strongest reason to believe he isn't a homosexual and that the OP used it as a means to say that his friend is inferior by listening to Yellow Card -- probably an inside joke we're unaware of.

I think they just prayed for his soul because he listened to the genre known as Metal.

EDIT:
But yes, it would be awful if they did that. In the sense of insulting him and targeting him for something he can't help.

I apologize, I didn't know you thought he was actually a homosexual. If I knew that, I wouldn't have been that harsh, I am truly sorry.

EDIT2:
If you're wondering how I missed that, I tend to do that. It was already in my mind that the guy was using it as an insult so I missed the word entirely...

Just like when I'm looking for something and it's right in front of me.

No worries. I can see how you might have read "*yes, he is gay*" as 'he listens to music I think is gay' instead of 'he is a literal homosexual'. In that case, your position would have been completely justified.

Has it been confirmed that he is homosexual, though?

Just seems like one hell of a deathtrap for a guy that goes to a private school for Christians.

 

[DanDeFool]

Spoiler

So, you're saying that you decided to cause discomfort to people that had done nothing to you simply because you don't believe the same things they do?

People like you give the human race a bad name.

In OP's defense, according to his story, they did it first. Waiting around a homosexual's vehicle and trying to purge him of his 'sin'? That's pretty awful.

Not that it justifies his behavior, he certainly didn't take the high road on this one, but calling the OP intolerant for blasting metal at these people is like siding with the pot because you think the kettle really is a little bit blacker.

How is it awful? They just knelt and prayed for him. That's not awful.

What's awful is if they beat the living crap out of him, what's awful is that they tie him to the back of his own car and then drag him around the parking lot full throttle while the teachers encourage it... yet they never did that, did they?

What they did was peaceful and all it took was the guy's precious time.

They - the OP and his friend - should have sucked it up and moved on. Or just laughed when his friend told the story.

I couldn't give a rat's ass what they did or what he did. They're both the fools here, but to say what they did is awful is just flat out wrong considering worse things have been done to "cleanse" people of their sin and you're just insulting the victims.

To say that someone born with a slight genetic defect (or whatever causes homosexuality) is an impure aberration, scorned by God, and in desperate need of rescuing from their 'sinful' nature, lest they be cast down into eternal damnation and suffering; that is awful. It's not what those people did, it's the beliefs that their actions represent that I find repulsive.

Yes, it WOULD have been worse if they had brutalized him in some way. I never said what those people did WAS worse than the violence that has been acted out on homosexuals in other situations. You put those words in my mouth; just because I used a strong negative adjective doesn't mean I think a certain action is the be-all, end-all of horribleness.

Bear in mind, that both the nonviolent actions of the students at this school and the violent actions taken against homosexuals elsewhere originate from the same set of beliefs; that homosexuality is, by nature, an affront against God. Actions originate from beliefs, be they violent or nonviolent. I agree that we can be glad that OPs friend wasn't attacked, but I still find it awful when I hear about people who hold those kinds of beliefs.

I still say that he's calling his friend gay for listening to Yellow Card in a means that he is a pansy, not that he is in fact a homosexual.

You said it was pretty awful... which implies that it was, in a way, awful. What they did was laughable and kind, not awful. Targeting him for homosexuality would have been much more brutal than that, but considering what kind of people he was dealing with he would have most likely walked home with a pamphlet or a call from school asking that he attends a special camp to learn to no longer be homosexual.

That didn't happen, which is my strongest reason to believe he isn't a homosexual and that the OP used it as a means to say that his friend is inferior by listening to Yellow Card -- probably an inside joke we're unaware of.

I think they just prayed for his soul because he listened to the genre known as Metal.

EDIT:
But yes, it would be awful if they did that. In the sense of insulting him and targeting him for something he can't help.

I apologize, I didn't know you thought he was actually a homosexual. If I knew that, I wouldn't have been that harsh, I am truly sorry.

EDIT2:
If you're wondering how I missed that, I tend to do that. It was already in my mind that the guy was using it as an insult so I missed the word entirely...

Just like when I'm looking for something and it's right in front of me.

No worries. I can see how you might have read "*yes, he is gay*" as 'he listens to music I think is gay' instead of 'he is a literal homosexual'. In that case, your position would have been completely justified.

Has it been confirmed that he is homosexual, though?

Just seems like one hell of a deathtrap for a guy that goes to a private school for Christians.

Now that you mention it, I'm not sure. I just assumed because homosexuality was mentioned that sexual orientation was the heart of the matter (I'm a knee-jerk advocate when it comes to gay-bashing). Now that I think about it, it probably was just about the music in his car. To automatically assume homophobia was an overreaction on my part.

Well, I still don't really like it, but if they gathered around his car to pray for him just because he listens to Yellow Card (which isn't really that bad a group from a moralistic standpoint), then it's not as awful as I said. It's just silly. Really, really silly.

EDIT: I meant I advocate FOR gays when it comes to gay bashing. That was probably a little ambiguous.

 

[Valksy]

Dick move? Yeah, a little bit. But if you were doing laps mate, I would have hung out for a high five.

Fundamentalism is never a good thing and to be honest if I ever catch someone praying for me to mend my dykey ways I am going to get very fucking pissed indeed.

As for the image of people dropping to their knees, bible over their ears...how on earth do these people function in society?