Did Bush do anything right?
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But you do understand that you're saying this in a thread in which someone is supposed to argue what Bush did right? It seems to imply that you actually DO think torture is right.Seekster said:
Never mind your argument that the man on the receiving end of the torture did wrong. I mean if you just want to overlook the concept of principle then whatever. How about the fact that torture is at best ineffective? Even the damn CIA were telling the people who signed off on all of this that torture is ineffective. And yet it still went through.
I don't generally support torture but against a guy like the one we were talking about I wouldn't have a problem with it. I agree its still wrong since it is technically torture but that doesn't change the way I feel about this particular instance. And besides sometimes you DO get valid info from harsh treatment of prisoners or even through torture (though like I said I don't usually advocate torture) and so that's a bonus.ButtonedDownParadox said:
Bush did a lot of things right but he also did a lot of things wrong, his handling of Gitmo was one thing I think he did wrong. I still say the prisoners there were probably treated better than they deserved to be but again we are the United States and we have to be the good guy (something I still dont understand sometimes) even when the rest of the world seems to hate us for whatever reason. (Why we go to such lengths just to please the rest of the world who probably wouldn't lift a finger to please us is something I dont understand sometime but ah well thats just me).
Now then its late and I should get some sleep before I start ranting.
One thing that Bush did severely wrong, and I know I'm opening up a HUGE can of worms, was cease the inception of new stems into stem cell research.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A43857-2001Apr20
So many lives lost due to right wingery. Thats not a flame on religious folks, just a bad call on a very helpful science. Thank the majority for Obama.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/09/obama-lifts-bush-limits-on-stem-cell-research/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A43857-2001Apr20
So many lives lost due to right wingery. Thats not a flame on religious folks, just a bad call on a very helpful science. Thank the majority for Obama.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/09/obama-lifts-bush-limits-on-stem-cell-research/
Wrong and right are subjective in most cases to your political views when it comes to presidents
However, that aid to africa was pretty cool of him
However, that aid to africa was pretty cool of him
Nicely donearbane said:Ignore everything from "of" to the period at the end, and it makes more sense. >
*sigh* Too many whiny people who don't know what they are talking about and just throw all the problems on the president. Its not a dictatorship, people had to pass his laws, people had to VOTE HIM IN. Quit crying, he's no longer president. Just deal with it. Move on, and lets hope we don't all die in some shooting massacre or swine flu epidemic....