avykins said:
ElephantGuts said:
avykins said:
ElephantGuts said:
Because Walt Disney was an anti-semitic Nazi-loving prick.
You speak as if that is a bad thing.
Yes, yes I do.
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Was it necessary to point that out? I thought it was fairly clear, are you insinuating I should revise my statement in order to clarify it?
I think that hating someone just because they have a liking for a certain political party is really stupid. I mean I take it you are american yet you obviously do not mind the american founding fathers who built your nation on the bodies of all the slaughtered indians.
People hate Hitler just for the sake of hating him without knowing what he was trying to do and that's just pathetic. The only reason he is such a figurehead of hate is because he lost. He is no more cruel and barbaric than any other great leader in history.
If Walt admires the man then he is no more a prick than you are for admiring some other leader or political group.
Look, I consider the combined actions against the Native Americans as the worst genocide in history, but frankly you're wrong. What happened to the Native Americans was over a period of hundreds of years, and it was about territory, not hatred. Most of it consisted of relocation and conversion from their lifestyle, outright massacres were not the norm. And might I remind you that this was hundreds of years ago, where the general mentality to these sorts of things were much different. You didn't need to be a horrible person to treat Native Americans unfairly.
Now the only way I could imagine you thinking there was nothing wrong with the Holocaust is if you know nothing about the Holocaust. Adolf Hitler hated the Jews, along with all the other minorities he persecuted. He intentionally massacred and brutally murdered as many of them as possible, just for the sake of killing them. Solely because of who they were. And I should remind you that this was merely half a century ago.
He is one of the most cruel and barbaric leaders of human history. It is insulting to say that I only hate him for the sake of hating him without knowing what he was trying to do. I know perfectly well what he was trying to do, and what he did. It is inexcusable by any means. The fact that he lost the war does not change what he did or how he should be viewed in the slightest.
To say that Walt Disney's admiration of Hitler is no different than my admiration for any leader is just insane. I don't see how I could take anything from that sentence except that you don't know who Hitler was or what he did. or, I suppose, you believe in some alternate reality in which every political leader is as bad as Hitler, but I find that much more unlikely. I hate Hitler, and I hate anyone who likes him for what he did. And if you think there's something wrong with that, then I hate you.