Do all women like jerks? No (a rant)

[Mcupobob]

I'm pretty sure all those "Women only like jerks" stem form the highschool kids. Anyways Great rant, though sadly it will be forgotten the next day and someone will post the inevitable "Women only like jerks" comment.

 

[Astoria]

THANKYOU! Couldn't have said it better myself. It annoys the hell out of me that guys (not all guys) complain that girls seems to judge all guys the same yet they do exactly the same thing.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

Most "why don't girls like nice guys?" threads are very thinly veiled "why can't I manipulate the woman I'm stalking into my bed?" threads. They give me the shits.

Plus the whinging little shits are often chasing some unobtainable idealised version of a woman and shunning many of the 'plainer' yet far more interesting birds.

I can't agree with this enough. The whole hunting strategy discussion that some of those threads turn into can be downright creepy.

Oh, the whole predatory nature of some posts in threads of the sort is downright sickening. Worse still is the trend of blaming the woman and ignoring their own shortcomings.

I agree mostly, but~

I want a guy who has his own friends, life and interests outside of our relationship, and who doesn't constantly need me there to support him.

You want a guy who doesn't need you there to support him. Isn't that kinda half the point of finding someone? So you can support each other? I mean I understand many people don't like clingy-ness, but this kinda sounds like you want to date someone just to say you're in a relationship.

Yeah I hear what you're saying. I guess what I meant was, yes there's the emotional support there, but he doesn't need me there to help him make every mundane decision of his life.

You mean you don't want to be your boyfriend's mum?

 

[FinalHeart95]

I hate when people say this as much as when girls say "guys are assholes". Generally the guys that say this are simply not confident in themselves, and if they had confidence they'd be home free.

Generally. Oh, and the statement is also a gigantic generalization, and I despise generalizations.

I'm a guy too.

 

[Sandernista]

I quoted you on facebook, hope you don't mind.

 

[Sandernista]

Double post GAH

 

[Tim_Buoy]

i agree with your post. you make very valid points and you are very humorous
OT: me and my friends normally dont fall into the stereotypical i cant get a girl type unless were joking and we do know girls that like jerks

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

I'm only agreeing in this thread to score points with the birds.

 

[Hiraeth]

Quick confession - I didn't actually come up with vagenda. Cookie for the reference!

You mean you don't want to be your boyfriend's mum?

Exactly.

EDIT: Hey if you want to impress the wildlife that's your prerogative, I'm just happy I didn't get backhanded by the first responder and told to go make someone a sandwich because games are for men.

I quoted you on facebook, hope you don't mind.

Not at all, go for it!

 

[zen5887]

I agree mostly, but~

I want a guy who has his own friends, life and interests outside of our relationship, and who doesn't constantly need me there to support him.

You want a guy who doesn't need you there to support him. Isn't that kinda half the point of finding someone? So you can support each other? I mean I understand many people don't like clingy-ness, but this kinda sounds like you want to date someone just to say you're in a relationship.

"Constantly need support" is pounds different to "need support".

I think I could say, with a fair bit of confidence, that a large number (I'm not saying all, or even a majority) of women are initially attracted to a bit of jerkiness. In my limited experience in this field, I think a dude who went up to a girl and recited poetry would would have much less chance than dude who walked up to a girl and said "Sup.. You're pretty hot" and then walked away. In clubs at least, which is where I'm basing all of this, so take this with as much salt as you want.

What quantifies jerkiness I think is the real problem here though. I feel (and I could be way off) that some people here see dudes with popped collars and Ed Hardy shirts with girlfriends (who, more often than not are really fucking attractive) so they, for whatever reason, jump on the "Man, that guy is a total jerk." mindset.

 

[Platti]

I'm a woman, have been for as long as I can remember.

Rofl. An excellent start to a post that I wholesomely agree with. Generalisation and carpet statements can be infuriating to endure. Someone who views the world in such a narrow-minded and ignorant way to the point that they think that an entire sex is a certain way should get a slap, or helpful tutoring on how not to be a moron.

Do women actually like jerks, do they hate jerks,

I'm not a woman, but I suppose some do? I like some jerks.

are feminists ruining everything for everyone,

No.

do I need to get my butt back in the kitchen,

Depends on the situation?

are we actually all slaves to our biology and really just looking for the strongest potential mates,

Personally, I think it's less evident in modern-day society but our biology isn't something thats going to just go away. Ever.

do I need a poll for this thread?

plsno

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

I feel (and I could be way off) that some people here see dudes with popped collars and Ed Hardy shirts with girlfriends (who, more often than not are really fucking attractive) so they, for whatever reason, jump on the "Man, that guy is a total jerk." mindset.

It's an exercise in circular logic.

If you declare every guy with a girlfriend is a jerk then by that logic girls only date guys that are jerks which, to complete the circle, means every guy with a girlfriend is a jerk.

 

[BlumiereBleck]

I wonder how many people will start acting different around women because of this...

 

[Monkfish Acc.]

Yes. Fucking thank you.
As it turns out, fellas, women are people. Amazing, I know. But true, I swear!

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If there's one thing that really fucking sickens me, it's the Nice Guy attitude.

 

[RaphaelsRedemption]

I wonder how many people will start acting different around women because of this...

Oh, I wish...!

Thing is, I'm just glad some people read and understood what was said. It's good to get a different opinion out there sometimes

 

[RaphaelsRedemption]

Yes. Fucking thank you.
As it turns out, fellas, women are people. Amazing, I know. But true, I swear!

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If there's one thing that really fucking sickens me, it's the Nice Guy attitude.

Those links are hilarious... and true. I'm bookmarking that site for further perusal!

 

[Zhukov]

Well, that was refreshing.

The thread title led me to expect something rather... err... different.

And now I need to go before some nosy bugger looks over my shoulder and sees me reading relationship advice on an internet gaming forum.

 

[wulfy42]

Why do women like jerks?

Well they don't......at least not because they are jerks, or at least not most of the time (there are of course exceptions to everything).

You touched on the subject of confidence...but it's true, most jerks at least appear to be confident and are able to say what they want. Yeah, they probably don't do it in the best way, but if it's what the woman wants as well......then it works fairly well, at least at first.

I'm almost 40 and it's been a very long time since I dated (been married over 10 years) but in my 20's I was a nice, polite guy who actually wanted to get to know a girl before dating her. That quite often relegated me to the friend department and quite a few times I saw a girl I liked start dating someone else right under my nose. It was quite frustrating but over all worthwhile. While I did not have a ton of relationships, I also don't have even one person I have slept with that I didn't know quite well and have stayed in touch with over the years.

So yeah, jerks might get to sleep around alot, but I don't really consider that a great thing. As far as them being attractive, well they get what they want out there....and it just makes sense that women react to that.

 

[The_awesome_one]

Most people that say that are jelaous of coinfidence, but sometimes it can be true. It's often, but not AS often as noobz make it up to be.

I'm confident when I'm alone with the girl I'm triying to hit with. Last time I was with a girl friend she told me basically what you just said ma'am.

So losers...save the drama

 

[Flare Phoenix]

It's a number's game. A "nice guy" will hit on maybe one or two girls per month if he's lucky, whereas a "jerk" will hit on one or two girls every five minutes (not exact calculations, but you get my point). While the "jerk" might get more rejections, he also has far more of a chance of one girl saying yes.