Do I deserve to be spat on for saying this to a gay person?

[TAGM]

Doesn't sound rude to me at all. Still, to say this was some sort of homophobic reaction isn't really justified - I'm pretty sure there's some stright people who would do such a thing in the same circumstances.

 

[chiefohara]

(as all things in Ireland inevitably do)

I love our country.

I think that there sexuality was being used as justification to do what ever they want, its a major problem when it comes to different skin pigments when someone of a different skin colour uses the race card in there favour against someone whos not of there skin colour such as a white person usually ending up with the other side walking away labelled racist.

Your friend had every right to ask them to stop. Its not like he used homophobic remarks and engaged in physical violence to stop them.

Blown way out of proportion especially spitting on someone, just shows you the calibre of said people involved

X2

They were just arseholes, playing a victim card of being gay to try and act the bollox with impunity.

 

[Chris^^]

thats preposterous, just goes to show the modern medias job is to exacerbate problems in place of reporting news.
If they were making me uncomfortable I'd tell them to stop, but someone spits on me they better get out the way fast, cuz I'd punch their head in..

 

[kuolonen]

For the answer to all movie-related controversies, consult this video:


Skip to 1:23 for information regarding the present dilemma.

oh god you win internets for this! I have my months worth of laughs. Well played sir.

 

[HolyMoogle]

I... am beyond words. You cannot imagine how insensitive and insulting the above statement was. Normal? Civilized? You're speaking of the LGBT community as it they were crazies and savages.

I'd like to share something about Gay Pride; it exists because we live in an society that believes we've surpassed all discrimination, and remains ignorant of the vastness of legalized discrimination against the LBGT community. The LGBT community has been through a history of hate, and it is the very ACT of it's pride, and love for one another that it has clawed to this moment in time! It's so each gay person can be supportive of one another, and remember that they are something that's not to be ashamed of. They can be proud of being gay, bi, lesbian, transgender, poly, whatever! This pride has gotten into the culture, and powers the movement for equality in the political side of things.

These homosexuals, as I imagine you spitting the word more than saying it, are not trying to breed homophobia by insulting your delicate sensibilities. Heavy set muffin tops repel me, and cause my stomach to turn. I do nothing more than avert my eyes. Guys that insult my womanhood in online games boil my blood; but I do not hate online male gamers. However... hateful forum-going insensitive posts about those crazy savages churning out homophobia like butter will give me cause to act.

I would ask that before you posting these insensitive things that you educate yourself on the finer points of the LGBT community.

Beautifully put, Firia. Regardless of how anybody feels about those with 'camp' mannerisms, they have just as much right to be themselves as anybody else. They have just as much right to speak a certain way or use certain gestures or dress a certain way as any other straight (or gay) person has to speak in another way or use other gestures or clothes. Yes it is obviously exasperating that the media only shows a particular side to gay people, the effeminate fashionista whose only purpose is to perform Cinderalla miracles on straight people, but you know what? That's not the fault of people with camp mannerisms, it's the fault of the media. They can be however they like. It's not up to straight people (or anybody, really) to determine whether or not it's ok for gay people to be camp.

 

[Oh That Dude]

"We don't like gays going all "look at me, I'm so gay!"
THIS, this is why homophobia still exists. If they would just shut up and act like normal civilized people, homophobia probably would be gone now. But NO, they must tell every single soul that they are something special if they're gay. People who act like that shame homosexuals in general.

I... am beyond words. You cannot imagine how insensitive and insulting the above statement was. Normal? Civilized? You're speaking of the LGBT community as it they were crazies and savages.

I'd like to share something about Gay Pride; it exists because we live in an society that believes we've surpassed all discrimination, and remains ignorant of the vastness of legalized discrimination against the LBGT community. The LGBT community has been through a history of hate, and it is the very ACT of it's pride, and love for one another that it has clawed to this moment in time! It's so each gay person can be supportive of one another, and remember that they are something that's not to be ashamed of. They can be proud of being gay, bi, lesbian, transgender, poly, whatever! This pride has gotten into the culture, and powers the movement for equality in the political side of things.

These homosexuals, as I imagine you spitting the word more than saying it, are not trying to breed homophobia by insulting your delicate sensibilities. Heavy set muffin tops repel me, and cause my stomach to turn. I do nothing more than avert my eyes. Guys that insult my womanhood in online games boil my blood; but I do not hate online male gamers. However... hateful forum-going insensitive posts about those crazy savages churning out homophobia like butter will give me cause to act.

I would ask that before you posting these insensitive things that you educate yourself on the finer points of the LGBT community.

Okay, maybe I used the wrong words. You can be Gay, Straight or Bisexual, but making out in a theater is just plain rude and uncivilized. The same applies if you go around going "look at me, I'm so Straight!". Homosexuals seem to be the most vulnerable to abuse, so acting like this in a public place is more likely going to give them a bad rep. They can show their love freely, like anyone else, but acting like this is plain rude.

That I can agree with.

 

[no one really]

That's rude...Say sorry to the OP.

You're right, I'm sorry James, it was late and I was a little irritated. But it was a bold statement, you have to agree

Not everyone in ireland is a drunk. Thats just a bad sterotype anyway.

I know, that's exactly my point.

 

[Wardnath]

He spat on your friend.

Repeat after me, everyone: All else is irrelevant.

 

[Wardnath]

snip

Maybe some of us don't want to wind up in an awkward situation involving the above?

 

[Timeslament]

I posted something earlier relating more to the OP this for all the people discussing or saying things about being "normal" and what normality is.So don't lynch me.


Emily Dickinson (1830?86).

Part One: Life

XI

MUCH madness is divinest sense
To a discerning eye;
Much sense the starkest madness.
?T is the majority
In this, as all, prevails. 5
Assent, and you are sane;
Demur,?you ?re straightway dangerous,
And handled with a chain.

 

[Biek]

Spit in my face = my hand in yours

I dont care who you are.

 

[Nautical Honors Society]

I don't think so. I mean it really depends. Would you have been bothered by a heterosexual couple making out in the theatre? If so, they you were just trying to let them know you thought they were being rude.

Nothing wrong with that.

 

[brodie21]

im pretty sure that anyone making out in front of me while im trying to watch inception would be a problem. i personally would see if the theater would kick them out

 

[Dags90]

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They were just arseholes, playing a victim card of being gay to try and act the bollox with impunity.

You must have missed the part where the OP said that his friend probably wouldn't have done anything if it were a heterosexual couple and has himself probably done "far worse" in public with a girlfriend. I think the amount of people who are taking the OPs story blindly really says something about homophobic (and minority in general) prejudice in these boards. That so many people find this scenario likely is pretty telling.

 

[KidKarolus]

Is it a hate crime? No. But in an empty theater, there was probably a more mature way to handle the situation.

On a side note, if a couple plans to get comfy at a movie theater, the back-most row is the place to do so.

 

[StoneHeart]

If it went exactly like that. Then no

 

[chiefohara]

X2

They were just arseholes, playing a victim card of being gay to try and act the bollox with impunity.

You must have missed the part where the OP said that his friend probably wouldn't have done anything if it were a heterosexual couple and has himself probably done "far worse" in public with a girlfriend. I think the amount of people who are taking the OPs story blindly really says something about homophobic (and minority in general) prejudice in these boards. That so many people find this scenario likely is pretty telling.

Doesn't matter.

His friend said or did nothing that warranted him being spat on.

Just because the people who spat on him are gay doesn't mean their behaviour is any less unnacceptable.

 

[Jfswift]

They're both at fault. Your friend should have ignored them. They shouldn't have spit on him though (ewww). I don't blame him for hitting them after that, spit is crossing a line. I don't get why it's such a big deal though. There's lots of things in society I don't like but I don't go out of my way to stop people either.

 

[dallan262]

i have kind of a similar story that did actually happen to me...

me and you seem to have the exact same opinion on gay people they are cool make good friends and are generally sound guys but i cant stand the ones that try and make a big deal aboutit...

anways storytime.

it was my girlfriends (at the time) birthday and since it was her night i said to her we could go anywhere she wanted it was just us some of her girl friends and her gay friend so she chose the gay club "for some grope free dancing and so her friend can pull" i said sure (although woulda been much happier if she chose the union or something, anyways when we get there we danced to some hefty choons and were having a great drunkin time, when someone grabbed me on the ass, i knew it wasnt my gfs, but thought it was her gay mate you know taking the piss having a laugh inding me up like he does, so i turn round and it was some pervy old man me drunk and not feeling happy about the whole thing (naturaly) i turned round and punched him in the face being dundee this esculated into quite a big fight, we managed to get out, i did feel really bad since it was my gfs birthday so i apologised for being a dick and overreacting like i did but then she started gettin angry because i am such a homophobe i pointed out that and her gay friend is like one of the soundest guys i kno and that see if that was a guy that groped her ass (that wasnt me) she wouldnt turn round and slap him? but apparently thats not the same thing =/

anyways yeah your mate had every right to tell them to stop making out i have been told numerous times in cinemas to stop making out with the girl im with... they fight for equal rights but then when they start gettin treated equally they complain about its bein homophobic? thats what annoys me most its the same with racism sexism etc etc its getting a bit rediculous especially in the UK

I'm sorry, but you really could not have been more wrong here. You were in a gay club, yes? Then you had no right to punch. Upset, sure, but no right at all to get violent. You deserved to have your girlfriend pissed at you, it is an incredibly homophobic thing to do.

Think of it like this: If you were in a "straight" club, would you punch a girl if she groped your ass? I'm hoping you'd say no to that, so by the same token it is completely wrong to punch a guy for groping your ass in a gay bar. You can obviously be upset and tell him to go away, but you have no right at all to get violent.

ok if it was a girl who came upto me and groped me on the ass whilst i was dancing with my girlfriend i wouldnt need to punch her because she woulda already been on the floor because of my girlfrend not me.

theres nothing homophobic about it im not gay i was at a club with my girlfriend in a dance that quite obviously showed that she either was my girlfriend or pretty damn close to it, the perv got whats coming to him he can look but he deffinately cant touch.

sorry i shoulda mentioned it was pretty obvious throughout our time there that i was no way gay as we were all over each other.

if i was homophobic andy definately woulda pointed it out

 

[Wardnath]

X2

They were just arseholes, playing a victim card of being gay to try and act the bollox with impunity.

You must have missed the part where the OP said that his friend probably wouldn't have done anything if it were a heterosexual couple and has himself probably done "far worse" in public with a girlfriend. I think the amount of people who are taking the OPs story blindly really says something about homophobic (and minority in general) prejudice in these boards. That so many people find this scenario likely is pretty telling.

I'm gonna go ahead and quote myself here...

He spat on your friend.

Repeat after me, everyone: All else is irrelevant.

Repeat after me, everyone: All else is irrelevant.

All else is irrelevant.