I don't burn it or anything but I don't go crazy over it. I guess we don't revere it as much up here in the north. I like the leaf though.
It actually stands for a truce between the Nationalist tradition and the Orange tradition.Sonic Doctor said:I'm half Irish, though I have never been to Ireland, I feel that the Irish flag probably stands for a fight for freedom and strength of character and will, considering the history of Ireland.PoliceBox63 said:I'm Irish and I respect my flag to the death. Not literally the flag but what it stands for. I don't let it touch the ground, i fold it properly and all that. A country's flag is a powerful symbol that can stir up STRONG emotions.
<spoiler=jesus christ>http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/54/Jesus_facepalm.jpgfacepalmedReapd said:........ *facepalm*Denamic said:It's a yellow plus sign on a blue background.
It's just a flag.
Nationality means absolutely nothing to me.
Unless you're from Norway, in which case I'm forced to make fun of you.
http://www.cultofmac.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/DoubleFacePalm.jpgReapd said:Umm it is. At least he's a democrat. And he is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY better that George Dubya who said Nuculer instead of Nuclear.Sonic Doctor said:With the "..." I feel that you are probably joking. Because, if you really think things are better because Obama is in office, I will be putting my palm on my face.Reapd said:Yea it sux.... At least we have Obama now......xxnightlawxx said:Unfortunately...Reapd said:American? Me too!xxnightlawxx said:Hell no, why should I? My government gives me a reason to show respect I will. Until this day I have yet to see that.
yea the leafs an ok part of the flag I guess =PRedlin5 said:I don't burn it or anything but I don't go crazy over it. I guess we don't revere it as much up here in the north. I like the leaf though.
Indeed. Just look at what happened to Zoidberg.Caurus said:Agreed.Cajt said:It's just a damn flag. Couldn't care less about it.
I think symbolism can be over-rated and stupid.
Exactly. Would you mind burning your country if it swayed from the ideals upon which is was founded?Furburt said:Ah, see, that's my point, they all stand for liberty and justice for all, thus, that's what your relatives died for, liberty and justice for all, not the flag itself. So it might be better to simply say that you respect what your flag stands for, not the flag itself, because in the end, it is just dyed cloth.mrhappyface said:True, but the Statue of Liberty, the Declaration of Independence, AND the American Flag all stand for liberty and justice for all, no? They are all equally important in my opinion.
watch the language please =]Foggy_Fishburne said:Holy shit... the day I'd treat a fucking flag that way I must have gone through some kind of lobotomy. I do not treat any flag that way. Flags are supposed to represent a nation. I'm not diggin the whole "patriot" and "nationlistic" vibe most people have for their countries, even worse, a piece of dyed fucking cloth. Patriotism and nationlism are the bastard parents of racsism and as I have an eternal hatred for racsism I do NOT want to be accociated with that
Nah, I salute and honor what deserves to be saluted and honored. Like the great men A. Einstein and B. Shaw said:
Heroism on command, senseless violence, and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism - how passionately I hate them! ~Albert Einstein
Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it. ~George Bernard Shaw
Hah okay well I can say without offending now that your grandma probly made it upSonic Doctor said:Well to tell the truth, my grandma is pretty nuts. She's on my German side of the family, and she lived in Germany when she was little girl and goes on trips there at least once a year. She is very stuck up. She thinks that everybody in Germany is well-mannered and eats meals at the exact same time every day, and don't party all night or do anything that would disturb the perfect peaceful order of life. Obviously, she has her head in the clouds.PoliceBox63 said:Hmm i'm not going to diss your grandma but that's a big claim to make. We can't even find out records about our ancestors only 10 generations ago coz of the events of War of Independence and Civil War! But who am i to say your grandma didn't find that outSonic Doctor said:I'm half Irish, though I have never been to Ireland, I feel that the Irish flag probably stands for a fight for freedom and strength of character and will, considering the history of Ireland.PoliceBox63 said:I'm Irish and I respect my flag to the death. Not literally the flag but what it stands for. I don't let it touch the ground, i fold it properly and all that. A country's flag is a powerful symbol that can stir up STRONG emotions.
I'm an O'Brian.(Sometime a few generations ago, my family for whatever reason changed the the "e" to an "a". I've been told it is probably because that is the way they started pronouncing it because of where they now live here in the US. I constantly have to correct people when they are writing it down.) My Non-Irish grandma loves to do genealogical research, and she found out my family is descended from one of the old kings of Ireland.
If I only get to go to one place outside the US, in my lifetime, it will have to be Ireland. I think it is a kind of draw that being Irish has, we have to go back to the homeland. I came to this conclusion after I had spoken to many other people where I am at, that have mostly Irish in them.
Now, I am also half German, but I really don't feel any draw to go to Germany.Make sure you come to Eire my friend, it's an experience to say the least ;D
But on the genealogical stuff, she probably did very loose research and probably just assumed my family was related to the Irish king Brian Boru. She likes people to think that she is important and that people in her family are important. I cracked up laughing when she said that on my Irish side of the family, we were related to the old west outlaw train robber Jesse James.
Don't worry, swearing is allowed on these boards.ninjajoeman said:watch the language please =]Foggy_Fishburne said:Holy shit... the day I'd treat a fucking flag that way I must have gone through some kind of lobotomy. I do not treat any flag that way. Flags are supposed to represent a nation. I'm not diggin the whole "patriot" and "nationlistic" vibe most people have for their countries, even worse, a piece of dyed fucking cloth. Patriotism and nationlism are the bastard parents of racsism and as I have an eternal hatred for racsism I do NOT want to be accociated with that
Nah, I salute and honor what deserves to be saluted and honored. Like the great men A. Einstein and B. Shaw said:
Heroism on command, senseless violence, and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism - how passionately I hate them! ~Albert Einstein
Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it. ~George Bernard Shaw