I don't really like patriotism, or whatever it's called when you do that whole 'Die for your country' thing. I mean, I can understand dying for democracy, or freedom of speech, or your family and friends, but not for a chunk of land. I just think it is weird to worship (I can't think of another word, so I'm stuck with worship) a country when you should be trying to make it better, after all, that is what a true patriot would want; to push their country to new heights, but something like that flag stuff you talked about is beyond me .... I feel like I'm explaining myself badly here, regardless to say, I am not a 'patriot' in my understanding of the word, because it is not the "This great land thing" I'm praising, I just think democracy, and the Australian environment is something really good (admittedly with flaws), but it isn't the country, but rather its components I like ... is anyone following me here?