Do you support your troops?
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Wow, lots of anti-soldier people here, they are so fucking cool eh?
Well, regardless I do support our (Canadian) troops. I'm not under some naive impression that all soldiers are totally benevolent paragons of goodness. I also don't have that impression about any other career, there are assholes in every profession, that includes doctors, nurses, and probably full time philanthropists, this is a fact. Yes, they kill people and they sign up aware that it will be part of their job, but considering that nowadays they seem to be killing people who joined up more or less specifically to kill anyone who doesn't agree with them, I think it's something that has to be done.
Well, regardless I do support our (Canadian) troops. I'm not under some naive impression that all soldiers are totally benevolent paragons of goodness. I also don't have that impression about any other career, there are assholes in every profession, that includes doctors, nurses, and probably full time philanthropists, this is a fact. Yes, they kill people and they sign up aware that it will be part of their job, but considering that nowadays they seem to be killing people who joined up more or less specifically to kill anyone who doesn't agree with them, I think it's something that has to be done.
Honestly... who is going to say no aside from those bullshit cultists of the westburo verity? Yes I know I screwed that name up, that is how much I don't care.
It would be a vast breaking of human nature to say you wish harm in someone. This is even more the case if you don't know the person. Let alone have a reason to care about in the negative sense. That the opening post asks to disregard what you think of the war and asks how you would react to the people forced to fight it. Leads me to believe those who say no they don't support them are disregarding this part at the best for political reasons. At worse are just using their anonymous nature to be 'edgy.'
Who really will wish these poor soldiers death simply for being soldiers?
Who really wishes the death of anyone they don't know, for that matter?
A real tough question would be to flip this on it's head and ask if you would feel support for the people of Afghanistan who pick up a rifle to fight what they picture as a violent invasion... that one is far more tricky.
It would be a vast breaking of human nature to say you wish harm in someone. This is even more the case if you don't know the person. Let alone have a reason to care about in the negative sense. That the opening post asks to disregard what you think of the war and asks how you would react to the people forced to fight it. Leads me to believe those who say no they don't support them are disregarding this part at the best for political reasons. At worse are just using their anonymous nature to be 'edgy.'
Who really will wish these poor soldiers death simply for being soldiers?
Who really wishes the death of anyone they don't know, for that matter?
A real tough question would be to flip this on it's head and ask if you would feel support for the people of Afghanistan who pick up a rifle to fight what they picture as a violent invasion... that one is far more tricky.
The invasion of Iraq had been in the planning stages for a number of years before 9/11 happened. Saddam repeatadly broke fundamental UN laws that Iraq agreed to when it joined, it's sovereignity had long since been surrendered by it's actions(by the letter of the law, at least).ninonybox360 said:
9/11 provided a convenient means of justifying what would have otherwise been, political career suicide. I'm not saying that it's right, or wrong. It's just that the invasion of Iraq wasn't as out of the blue as it may have seemed.
I feel as though every last one of them are murderers - you are expected to kill for your country or in some cases, someone else's country.
I support the survival of anyone unfortunate to be drafted, as they don't deserve to be there, it goes against human rights -and I don't care what side they're on.
I support the survival of anyone unfortunate to be drafted, as they don't deserve to be there, it goes against human rights -and I don't care what side they're on.
nope they put themselves in that situation, the majority of troops are black people and redneck hillbillies simply trying to be "macho"
Actually Germany isn't in any wars right now.
They are called peace missions, by the politicians, so I think our troops don't really need support, cause peace isn't dangerous.
They are called peace missions, by the politicians, so I think our troops don't really need support, cause peace isn't dangerous.
That's a bit ignorant, most the people who fight in wars do it because they usually can't finacually afford to live, the majority of American Soldiers are black, because they have no other way to live.dbungus2000 said:
There are also college scholarships for those who join the war as well, and so young people who have yet to live a life, go to war, so they can go to college and have a future.
I'll keep this short because I can feel a wall-of-text rant coming at any moment.
I wholeheartedly support my troops, and greatly respect any regular military force in the world. I was a US Marine for 4 years in the infantry, and been to Iraq twice.
I support the conflicts we are currently involved in!
Let me explain before you all collectively call me a brainwashed drone. The reasons for these conflicts starting in the first place are weak at best, but ultimately the politics don't matter. You have to look at the effect the strong troop presence has on the local population. In a city of rolling brownouts we would deliver generators to power the families' homes, and stuff our packs with soccer balls and candy for the children. When it came down to it most of the locals welcomed our presence because we were making improvements to their quality of life, where the insurgents would simply extort and threaten them. On the Afghan front, Marines have recently seized one of the largest areas for growing the Opium Poppy which they use to make heroin.
I wholeheartedly support my troops, and greatly respect any regular military force in the world. I was a US Marine for 4 years in the infantry, and been to Iraq twice.
I support the conflicts we are currently involved in!
Let me explain before you all collectively call me a brainwashed drone. The reasons for these conflicts starting in the first place are weak at best, but ultimately the politics don't matter. You have to look at the effect the strong troop presence has on the local population. In a city of rolling brownouts we would deliver generators to power the families' homes, and stuff our packs with soccer balls and candy for the children. When it came down to it most of the locals welcomed our presence because we were making improvements to their quality of life, where the insurgents would simply extort and threaten them. On the Afghan front, Marines have recently seized one of the largest areas for growing the Opium Poppy which they use to make heroin.
I hate the war and the concept of it and a lot of the troops abuse their power and are a bunch of assholes, but for the most part, I wish them safe return.
I agree completely. Whether or not we should be fighting in Afganistan and Iraq is a pointless question. What matters is that we are there now and that it would be wrong to have had those chaps to have died in vain by pulling out now.YouCallMeNighthawk said:
Actually... the majority of the troops are poor people who had no other option then the military. That or a life in some dead end, minimal wage, job that they would have to fight tooth and nail to keep, while working extra shifts just to survive. All the while living in dangerous conditions that poverty brings about, such as ghettos.dbungus2000 said:
Some even go as far as to suggest the economy in these areas are deliberately damaged just to make sure there is enough meat for the grinder... it isn't that far fetched either, these are the areas the military recruits heavily from. Makes it easy to promise these people better lives, seeing they don't have a chance of one on their own outside of a gang life....
afgahnistan and scotland are countires that can't be invaded. Afganistan British Empire Fail,U.S.S.R Fail and Now massive Coalition are soon to Fail. Scotland Romans Fail, union with Britain. As for supporting our troops....Yes!
There are tons of ways you can make a living besides sending yourself to war, how about picking up a book, your saying black people cant do that? There are tons of college scholarships out there that dont require you to put your self in harms way just to get it.antigodoflife said: