Do you support your troops?

[dbungus2000]

If you're enough of an idiot(no offence) to join the army, then that's your problem, I won't support you.

Just wondering, do you support the idiots who join the fire department or police force instead?

i dont, especially the police force which is full of powertripping assholes, the fire department I respect a little more than cops because they dont make a living off of harrassing people, however i dont feel sorry when one gets hurt or dies on the job, they know what they got themselves into when they took that job. Basically I find supporting random people for the jobs they choose to be retarded, you dont know them or there motives.

 

[Jinx_Dragon]

(Canadian)
I wouldn't say I actively support them, but I don't wish them dead. Being in Afghanistan and Iraq is their own choice. There's no draft. If you're there, it's your own fault. Your family does have my sympathies if you die, but it should not come unexpected.

This posts show no understanding on the conditions that lead to people serving in the military. Recruiters hit the hardest economically down trodden areas, knowing these people can be swayed so easily to join the military because they have nothing else to look forward to. They are promise all sorts of crap too, I've seen reports where recruiters promise to turn people into rap stars for goddesses sake! They also make promises that these people would get cushy, US based, jobs far away from the war. Jobs where they will do nothing more then learn the skills needed to get a better job in the civilian field.

Of course, what they sign on paper is completely different either because they are naive enough to listen to the recruiter then read the paper... or can't read. Then they find themselves shipped over-seas in a grunt position and have no legal way out. Reports on this have floated the net for a long time... army recruiters are arseholes that want to get their quota and bonuses.

 

[not_the_dm]

Well I look at the troops the same way I look at people who had a car crash speeding or drink driving, with patronising pity. My opinion is if your stupid enough to join the army then you gotta face the consequences. However I'm wouldn't hope for them to come to harm.

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Some people join the armed forces because they have a sense of honor, and when the shit goes down, they'd rather be helping to keep their mates alive than cowering under the table.
[sub]Yes, 3/4 of my family have been in the millitary in the last 300 years that we have been able to trace[/sub]

afgahnistan and scotland are countires that can't be invaded. Afganistan British Empire Fail,U.S.S.R Fail and Now massive Coalition are soon to Fail. Scotland Romans Fail, union with Britain. As for supporting our troops....Yes!

Ed Longshanks succesfully invaded Scotland, hence the union with the rest of Britain. (Barring Aire ofcourse.)

 

[Fox242]

I support my country's troops and the wars in which they are fighting to the fullest extent. I alos hope to join the ranks of the Air Force in a few years so that I can fight for my country. I will always support my country's troops because I come from a military family and I'm just a hardcore patriot.

 

[Asehujiko]

"support" as in yelling at people who don't heap enough praise on the american ones and wave around a little american(made in china) flag like a few others in this thread? Absolutely not.

However, I fully agree with our peackeeping team in Haiti as well as their decision to pull out of the american caused clusterfuck in the middle east despite a ton of political pressure(from said americans).

 

[AbsoluteVirtue18]

Yes, and it pisses me off everytime I hear of a soldier dying and see people outside of the funeral or burial with signs talking about how they deserved it.

 

[Bealzibob]

Well I look at the troops the same way I look at people who had a car crash speeding or drink driving, with patronising pity. My opinion is if your stupid enough to join the army then you gotta face the consequences. However I'm wouldn't hope for them to come to harm.

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Some people join the armed forces because they have a sense of honor, and when the shit goes down, they'd rather be helping to keep their mates alive than cowering under the table.
[sub]Yes, 3/4 of my family have been in the millitary in the last 300 years that we have been able to trace[/sub]

I would understand your point for wars such as WW2(which can be used as a fairly black and white example) of a war with a bad guy and a good guy. The worlds pretty much established that hitler was a bad man to put it simply and if I was born in the 1920's I probable would of went to war out of a feeling of duty. However everything past that looses its black and whiteness and I see no real reason for any western countries to be in iraq and Afganistan. Especially not if they want to follow a sense of Honor. So in that case I pity anyone who joins the army now to fight our current wars out of a foolish sense of honor.

Still no one deserves to die. Not the "Honorable" soldiers fighting "terrorists" or the "Middle eastern freedom-fighters" defending their land from "opressive corperate demons"...

 

[koshypops]

I'll support every soldier until they cross the line E.g. Executing prisoners, murder of civilians that sort of thing. I think even if you believe the war is injust you should support them as they sign up to protect the country they can't pick and choose deployments.

I, by the way, don't agree Iraq was an Illegal war mainly because there is no such thing war is war legality means nothing. Saddam gave the US and UK more than enough reasons compared to some of the previous wars Britain has been involved in and I believe that while the way Afghanistan is being fought is incorrect I believe in the mission.

 

[Stephanos132]

Absolutely do I support the troops. Might end up as one of them sooner or later.

About Afghanistan, I'm a bit undecided. On one hand, you have extremist lunatics doing extremely unpleasent things to people (and possibly harbouring more lunatics to strike at places outside their own state) and generally dragging the country into the dark ages. On the other hand, that bit was largely a consequence of the Cold War, with US meddling such that the Soviets wouldn't get a foothold, and then just abandoning Afghanistan to its fate and, as many are quick to point out, it isn't exactly the easiest place to get stuff done in.

To those who claim those who sign up are stupid/desperate for doing so, all I can say is that if they didn't, you and they would likely end up being drafted instead.

My main issue is, of course, with those who send others to fight (on both sides incidentally, how many of those mad preachers directing their resistance are actually on the frontline themselves? my guess is practically none), primarily because of the empty promises and violation of trust. It's certainly the case in the UK, where the much maligned government under labour has violated their side of the covenant with the armed forces, and abandoning returning troops without a care. I'm very surprised/displeased that Brown has not been a victim of 'friendly fire' on the few trips he's made out there.

 

[samstewiefisher]

I wouldnt like to see any of them die. But i dont support the army. Theres people killing each other for crap reasons.

Of course. They mostly sign up for good reasons, so I'd like if they could kill the enemy and come home alive.

IM sure the other people on the other side are wishing there troops would kill our troups too and go home alive.It all seems pretty futile to me.

 

[Fox242]

Yes, and it pisses me off everytime I hear of a soldier dying and see people outside of the funeral or burial with signs talking about how they deserved it.

Same here man. I hate those motherfuckers, they need a good beating.

 

[Lemon Of Life]

I do not support the coalition and ISAF troops deployment (that's probably a better word) in Afghanistan or Iraq though. Well, I can understand the justification for invading Afghanistan, but they're carrying out the occupation totally wrong, and Iraq has no justification whatsoever. Just good old fashioned imperialistic bastards thinking they can do what they please. I couldn't care less if coalition troops die. Although it would be nice if the politicians who sent them died first.

As someone who has relatives in Afghanistan (my uncle is an army engineer, and I have a cousin that is a captain), I find your comment quite offensive. I agree that the wars haven't been handled very well, and that the terms on which we invaded were questionable, but to hate the man with a gun doing what he is told, maybe even fighting, because (rightly or wrongly) he is trying to make the world a better place, seems unreasonable. There are soldiers out there who are opening schools, letting children have an education and be free from the oppressive Taliban regime.

I could argue that the Middle East was worse off before the invasion. When they invaded Iraq, they found mass graves containing some of Saddam's 300,000 victims. I could argue that if that little girl gets to walk the streets feeling the wind on her face, without the risk of being executed in a football stadium for showing bare skin and even has the possibility of having a worthwhile future, then the old fashioned imperialistic bastards have done a good job.

But that is not my problem, my problem is that you have insulted men who are risking their lives doing their lives.

I wouldn't have gotten so worked up were not such an authoritative figure on this site, but even if the war is wrong, show some respect to the guys getting shot.

 

[SextusMaximus]

Yes, but I don't keep up with the news, or keep them in my prayers or whatever...

 

[Jark212]

Though I disagree with why there there, I do support my Countries Soldiers and wish the best for them and there families...

 

[not_the_dm]

Well I look at the troops the same way I look at people who had a car crash speeding or drink driving, with patronising pity. My opinion is if your stupid enough to join the army then you gotta face the consequences. However I'm wouldn't hope for them to come to harm.

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Some people join the armed forces because they have a sense of honor, and when the shit goes down, they'd rather be helping to keep their mates alive than cowering under the table.
[sub]Yes, 3/4 of my family have been in the millitary in the last 300 years that we have been able to trace[/sub]

I would understand your point for wars such as WW2(which can be used as a fairly black and white example) of a war with a bad guy and a good guy. The worlds pretty much established that hitler was a bad man to put it simply and if I was born in the 1920's I probable would of went to war out of a feeling of duty. However everything past that looses its black and whiteness and I see no real reason for any western countries to be in iraq and Afganistan. Especially not if they want to follow a sense of Honor. So in that case I pity anyone who joins the army now to fight our current wars out of a foolish sense of honor.

Still no one deserves to die. Not the "Honorable" soldiers fighting "terrorists" or the "Middle eastern freedom-fighters" defending their land from "opressive corperate demons"...

There are no black and white wars. Besides, war has been fought for terrortary and trade for thousands of years.

 

[zelda2fanboy]

Yes, of course I do. We all do, whether we like it or not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg76Df0oSbM

 

[GL2814E]

I absolutely support our troops. I did before I joined the service, and I still do even seeing the ups and downs of the service.

To all of you aggressively and negatively generalizing towards troops- Fuck Off. That is me as a private citizen voicing my opinion.

I am willing to bet you ninnies would be the first to sound off if I started generalizing about gamers. "Hey Man! Don't Generalize About People! It Isn't Cool."

Soldiers join for a lot of reasons, and they aren't because we are desperate and stupid. Some of us are continuing a family legacy of service to our nations. Others wish to gain valuable life skills from service.

Are there people who join the Service for the wrong reasons? Of course there are, same as any other calling.

But I will not sit by and listen to you snot nosed, self-righteous, know-it-alls insult my brothers-in-arms and our allies across the world.

I am not trying to convince any of you of the correctness of the wars, but most soldiers live to serve their nations and protect their families and countrymen. Regardless of the reasons that we joined.

Before any of you punks start generalizing, try to research a subject beyond your own most casual prejudices.

I understand those of you who don't support troops out of ideological needs. But don't sit and insult us. Because I am willing to bet those of you who are insulting are entirely too chicken-shit to do it to soldiers faces.

(And yes Sailor, Marines, Airman, Coast Guards, and members of other nations militaries, when I say soldier I am defending all of you too.)

 

[khaimera]

Well, we might as well have someone say that they do not support troops just so that this thread doesn't become even more boring or irrelevant than it already is.

So I think that if soemone fights in a war that they do not perosonally believe in, they should die for being a hypocrite. Also, someone who kills another person deserves death, its only fair. If only there was a poll so I could be the one no vote after a thousand yes votes. It would be the only way i'd ever vote in a poll, I hate them.

This thread really is terrible.

 

[Serge A. Storms]

What the fuck does "support the troops" even mean? Does waving a flag or backing them up on the internet count as "support?" I pay taxes, so I guess technically I support them whether I like any of them personally or not, although I don't know if that counts because I don't go out of my way to donate to troops or their cause.

 

[GrinningManiac]

I Support the troops, but I hate it when a soldier dies and people have an absaloute uproar about it. I can understand being upset, or even blaming the politicians/country for getting their relative/friend into the war in the first place, but I hate the ones where the people seem genuinely shocked to discover that people occasionally die in wars, and they think it's the government's fault for not telling them and bringing their boy back to life