Doctor Who: Episode 11: The Lodger [Spoilers... Obviously]

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TimeLord said:
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PoliceBox63 said:
What do you mean they still know? Why wouldn't they
Amy/Rory don't remember the Autons (either time)/Cyberman invasion/Slitheen, even before events happened.
I thought we were assuming that was all to do with the cracks!
So why does
Sophie and Dave still know all about the Doctor, when there's a crack next to his fridge. The one with Van Gough and The Doctor's photographs on it?

Especially as
The Sunflowers still say "To Amy"? Historians would have been puzzling over that for years...Perhaps Amy was named after the picture of the Sunflowers?

My head hurts now.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
PoliceBox63 said:
What do you mean they still know? Why wouldn't they
Amy/Rory don't remember the Autons (either time)/Cyberman invasion/Slitheen, even before events happened.

In fact, very few people the Doctor has met remember them...And the duckpond still doesn't have any ducks.
The Doctor gave Craig a direct mind-link-wibbly thingy. Of course he's going to know. And Sophie just knows from her own direct experience. They never said they knew about any previous stuff, although if Craig did it would still make sense because he got the mind link of the Doctor's experience.
 

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TimeLord said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
PoliceBox63 said:
What do you mean they still know? Why wouldn't they
Amy/Rory don't remember the Autons (either time)/Cyberman invasion/Slitheen, even before events happened.
I thought we were assuming that was all to do with the cracks!
Not just that, but as The Doctor mentioned: a CyberKing strolls through Victorian London and attempts to flatten it, but nobody remembers. There were no cracks there.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
TimeLord said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
PoliceBox63 said:
What do you mean they still know? Why wouldn't they
Amy/Rory don't remember the Autons (either time)/Cyberman invasion/Slitheen, even before events happened.
I thought we were assuming that was all to do with the cracks!
So why does
Sophie and Dave still know all about the Doctor, when there's a crack next to his fridge. The one with Van Gough and The Doctor's photographs on it?
The crack is just sitting there it hasn't touched them just or might not even expand at that point in time.
 

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Kjakings said:
TimeLord said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
PoliceBox63 said:
What do you mean they still know? Why wouldn't they
Amy/Rory don't remember the Autons (either time)/Cyberman invasion/Slitheen, even before events happened.
I thought we were assuming that was all to do with the cracks!
Not just that, but as The Doctor mentioned: a CyberKing strolls through Victorian London and attempts to flatten it, but nobody remembers. There were no cracks there.
That we know of! He has said that the crack were everywhere. Not just following Amy or the Doctor.

The cracks have affect other species (Vampires in Venice)
 

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Kjakings said:
TimeLord said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
PoliceBox63 said:
What do you mean they still know? Why wouldn't they
Amy/Rory don't remember the Autons (either time)/Cyberman invasion/Slitheen, even before events happened.
I thought we were assuming that was all to do with the cracks!
Not just that, but as The Doctor mentioned: a CyberKing strolls through Victorian London and attempts to flatten it, but nobody remembers. There were no cracks there.
Not that we know of.

Edit: Curse you Time Lord! With your ninja prowess. At least I ninja'd Policebox, woo.
 

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Kjakings said:
TimeLord said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
PoliceBox63 said:
What do you mean they still know? Why wouldn't they
Amy/Rory don't remember the Autons (either time)/Cyberman invasion/Slitheen, even before events happened.
I thought we were assuming that was all to do with the cracks!
Not just that, but as The Doctor mentioned: a CyberKing strolls through Victorian London and attempts to flatten it, but nobody remembers. There were no cracks there.
Says who?
 

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whats in the pandorican?

a portal to WH,40k. something like that would justify everyone in the universe fighting over it :p

also, did anyone notice the patterns on the pandorican? care to speculate as to what they men? (maybe Epileptic Trees are inside?)
 

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vallorn said:
whats in the pandorican?

a portal to WH,40k. something like that would justify everyone in the universe fighting over it :p

also, did anyone notice the patterns on the pandorican? care to speculate as to what they men? (maybe Epileptic Trees are inside?)
I think it was part of a locking mechanism as I think they were moving with green light shining through where they moved apart.
 

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I bet there's going to be nothing. Honestly, when you think about it, every theory has just about as much relevance to what's in The Pandorica as Iron Man and Thor jumping out of there and doing a Michael Jackson routine. They could put anything in there and it would make sense, what with the wibbly wobbly timey wimey big ball of stuff.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
TimeLord said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
PoliceBox63 said:
What do you mean they still know? Why wouldn't they
Amy/Rory don't remember the Autons (either time)/Cyberman invasion/Slitheen, even before events happened.
I thought we were assuming that was all to do with the cracks!
So why does
Sophie and Dave still know all about the Doctor, when there's a crack next to his fridge. The one with Van Gough and The Doctor's photographs on it?

Especially as
The Sunflowers still say "To Amy"? Historians would have been puzzling over that for years...Perhaps Amy was named after the picture of the Sunflowers?

My head hurts now.
I think the mind link would account for Sophie and Dave.

But I don't think any cracks showed up around Van Gogh's time, otherwise all of his paintings would have disappeared.

I'm still waiting for an explanation as to how the Angels could have been sucked into the crack even though an Angel was the reason for everyone going to the Byzantium. Yet afterwards, none of this was corrected by everyone going back to their own time as the incident that led everyone there no longer happened. Did that make any sense?
 
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PoliceBox63 said:
Kjakings said:
Not just that, but as The Doctor mentioned: a CyberKing strolls through Victorian London and attempts to flatten it, but nobody remembers. There were no cracks there.
Says who?
The Doctor in Eleventh Hour, I believe.

Did anyone else see Prisoner Zero in the Pandorica as well? But bow ties are still cool.
 

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Disaster Button said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
TimeLord said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
PoliceBox63 said:
What do you mean they still know? Why wouldn't they
Amy/Rory don't remember the Autons (either time)/Cyberman invasion/Slitheen, even before events happened.
I thought we were assuming that was all to do with the cracks!
So why does
Sophie and Dave still know all about the Doctor, when there's a crack next to his fridge. The one with Van Gough and The Doctor's photographs on it?

Especially as
The Sunflowers still say "To Amy"? Historians would have been puzzling over that for years...Perhaps Amy was named after the picture of the Sunflowers?

My head hurts now.
I think the mind link would account for Sophie and Dave.

But I don't think any cracks showed up around Van Gogh's time, otherwise all of his paintings would have disappeared.

I'm still waiting for an explanation as to how the Angels could have been sucked into the crack even though an Angel was the reason for everyone going to the Byzantium. Yet afterwards, none of this was corrected by everyone going back to their own time as the incident that led everyone there no longer happened. Did that make any sense?
Well all three of them (dr amy river) are special anomalies so until they left that space-time it still existed. It's possible no one remembers the event now. Has it been referenced since?