Doctor Who: Episode 11: The Lodger [Spoilers... Obviously]

[anthony87]

All these different theories are doing this to my mind;

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Regarding what's inside the Pandorica, I'm just gonna take a stab in the dark and speculate that it's a Time Lord.

 

[Sam G]

What do you mean they still know? Why wouldn't they

Amy/Rory don't remember the Autons (either time)/Cyberman invasion/Slitheen, even before events happened.

I thought we were assuming that was all to do with the cracks!

So why does

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Sophie and Dave still know all about the Doctor, when there's a crack next to his fridge. The one with Van Gough and The Doctor's photographs on it?

Especially as

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The Sunflowers still say "To Amy"? Historians would have been puzzling over that for years...Perhaps Amy was named after the picture of the Sunflowers?

My head hurts now.

Damn... Who were Sophie and Dave again?

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

What was it?

NICE GUY. There's also his ID badge that said he got his Nurses Training on 30th November 1990?
And the sleepy town of Leadworth is an anagram of DR WHO LATE.

Curiouser and curiouser.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Damn... Who were Sophie and Dave again?

Oops, Sophie and Craig. Dave was the Vashta Nerada victim.

 

[DoctorWhat]

OT:

Spoiler: AMY

i think she's remebering about her boyfreind either that or she thinks the doctors going to prepose (that will be awkward if true)

I thought that as well, and when I thought that, I remembered how she signed off on the note: "Amy- X X X" Just a thought. But it really is great how the little touches are added into the episodes. Like The Doctor playing as number 11 on the football team, or the Van Gogh pictures on the fridge. And that's the main reason I hate the crack in the wall. We need an overarching story like Bad Wolf; one that you don't even notice until the end,and then you cxan re-watch the episodes with your new knowledge and go "Oh yeeaaaaah!"

"The most feared being in all the cosmos." That has got to be you-know-who

OH JEEBUS!!! IT'S VOLDEMORT!!!

I'd laugh if the big bad guy was Rory.

A lot.

Well...

Spoiler

Rory is coming back.

So maybe.

How the hell do you know all this stuff?

 

[PoliceBox63]

"The most feared being in all the cosmos." That has got to be you-know-who

OH JEEBUS!!! IT'S VOLDEMORT!!!

Lol no i mean the

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doctor

 

[oktalist]

i hope they ditch the whole mighty morphing power daleks thing.

You realise the Daleks were originally about 4 different colours in the original movies, so this is nothing new

Indeed not

Spoiler: Big pic of the 1965 Daleks

Exactly what I was talking about!

Original movies? Ha!

The Daleks first appeared in TV episodes with William Hartnell as the Doctor. They were filmed in black and white. The props were all silver with sky blue trim. From the first colour episodes, up until Revelation of the Daleks (which introduced white Daleks), they were all drab colours like grey, black, silver and gunmetal blue, with the exception that there were one or two gold ones in Planet of the Daleks.

The Peter Cushing movies are generally not regarded as canon.

But personally I couldn't care less what colour they are, as long as they stop being rubbish.

[small]And no, that wasn't all off the top of my head; I fact-checked at http://www.dalek6388.co.uk/ and Wikipedia.

In the future, facts will be obsolete. We will all be linked into the Wikipedia hive mind.[/small]

 

[Disaster Button]

What do you mean they still know? Why wouldn't they

Amy/Rory don't remember the Autons (either time)/Cyberman invasion/Slitheen, even before events happened.

I thought we were assuming that was all to do with the cracks!

So why does

Spoiler

Sophie and Dave still know all about the Doctor, when there's a crack next to his fridge. The one with Van Gough and The Doctor's photographs on it?

Especially as

Spoiler

The Sunflowers still say "To Amy"? Historians would have been puzzling over that for years...Perhaps Amy was named after the picture of the Sunflowers?

My head hurts now.

I think the mind link would account for Sophie and Dave.

But I don't think any cracks showed up around Van Gogh's time, otherwise all of his paintings would have disappeared.

I'm still waiting for an explanation as to how the Angels could have been sucked into the crack even though an Angel was the reason for everyone going to the Byzantium. Yet afterwards, none of this was corrected by everyone going back to their own time as the incident that led everyone there no longer happened. Did that make any sense?

Well all three of them (dr amy river) are special anomalies so until they left that space-time it still existed. It's possible no one remembers the event now. Has it been referenced since?

No, but that isn't unusual. But I suppose you could be right.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

From the first colour episodes, up until Revelation of the Daleks (which introduced white Daleks), they were all drab colours like grey, black, silver and gunmetal blue, with the exception that there were one or two gold ones in Planet of the Daleks.

There was also the original Emperor Dalek, Gold with a spherical head (which was actually Davros) and Moffat has already said that the new Daleks are a tip-of-the-plunger to the old enhanced Daleks of the films.

 

[Disaster Button]

OT:

Spoiler: AMY

i think she's remebering about her boyfreind either that or she thinks the doctors going to prepose (that will be awkward if true)

I thought that as well, and when I thought that, I remembered how she signed off on the note: "Amy- X X X" Just a thought. But it really is great how the little touches are added into the episodes. Like The Doctor playing as number 11 on the football team, or the Van Gogh pictures on the fridge. And that's the main reason I hate the crack in the wall. We need an overarching story like Bad Wolf; one that you don't even notice until the end,and then you cxan re-watch the episodes with your new knowledge and go "Oh yeeaaaaah!"

"The most feared being in all the cosmos." That has got to be you-know-who

OH JEEBUS!!! IT'S VOLDEMORT!!!

I'd laugh if the big bad guy was Rory.

A lot.

Well...

Spoiler

Rory is coming back.

So maybe.

How the hell do you know all this stuff?

Magic?

...

...

I checked who was appearing in the last episodes and Arthur Darvil (Rory) was listed as a cast member.

 

[ben---neb]

If the Ood appear again I'm gunna fucking kill someone. Same with Rose, Torchwood and Donna.

My sentiments exactly.

Well, I'm looking forward to it. Has anyone else noticed the large number of potential time paradoes set up? Amy's note, Amy on the hill, and a few others as well. Highly suspicious.

As for the most feared man in the galaxy, that's easy, me.

 

[Disaster Button]

What was it?

NICE GUY. There's also his ID badge that said he got his Nurses Training on 30th November 1990?
And the sleepy town of Leadworth is an anagram of DR WHO LATE.

Curiouser and curiouser.

Oh oh god, I've been waiting to be able to talk about this. <3

Not only was his badge issued in 1990, the cars in that episode were from 1990 and 2005+

That might not mean a lot but the clock at the end of Flesh and Stone changed from 11:59 AM to 12:00PM of the next day. At first I thought it changed to 12:00AM midnight, but it doesn't. It skipped an entire day. And there was that line in an episode about Leadworth being the 'Village that time forgot.'

Edit: On a seperate note, NICE GUY could be there to throw us off.

 

[DoctorWhat]

*snip*
Magic?

...

...

I checked who was appearing in the last episodes and Arthur Darvil (Rory) was listed as a cast member.

But then how'd you know about

Spoiler: Spoiler

Van Gogh

too?

 

[orangebandguy]

OMG what if the cracks

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lead to the void and all the daleks and cybers who were sucked in in series 2 finale come out

:O :O :O

Cant be, the cyber in the trailer didn't have the cybus industries logo on their chests from the parallel universe.

Yes it did?

 

[Disaster Button]

*snip*
Magic?

...

...

I checked who was appearing in the last episodes and Arthur Darvil (Rory) was listed as a cast member.

But then how'd you know about

Spoiler: Spoiler

Van Gogh

too?

I read about it on the Doctor Who Wiki Site, it has a lot of interesting stuff. Some of it is spoilery in a sense, but its nothing major and doesn't reveal any of the story. Most of it is just rumours and interesting theories.

 

[PoliceBox63]

From the first colour episodes, up until Revelation of the Daleks (which introduced white Daleks), they were all drab colours like grey, black, silver and gunmetal blue, with the exception that there were one or two gold ones in Planet of the Daleks.

There was also the original Emperor Dalek, Gold with a spherical head (which was actually Davros) and Moffat has already said that the new Daleks are a tip-of-the-plunger to the old enhanced Daleks of the films.

Still doesn't make them not look ridiculously blue peter

 

[Disaster Button]

From the first colour episodes, up until Revelation of the Daleks (which introduced white Daleks), they were all drab colours like grey, black, silver and gunmetal blue, with the exception that there were one or two gold ones in Planet of the Daleks.

There was also the original Emperor Dalek, Gold with a spherical head (which was actually Davros) and Moffat has already said that the new Daleks are a tip-of-the-plunger to the old enhanced Daleks of the films.

Still doesn't make them not look ridiculously blue peter

I can overlook the new Daleks' colour scheme simply because of their new voices. They're so.. throbbing.

 

[PoliceBox63]

From the first colour episodes, up until Revelation of the Daleks (which introduced white Daleks), they were all drab colours like grey, black, silver and gunmetal blue, with the exception that there were one or two gold ones in Planet of the Daleks.

There was also the original Emperor Dalek, Gold with a spherical head (which was actually Davros) and Moffat has already said that the new Daleks are a tip-of-the-plunger to the old enhanced Daleks of the films.

Still doesn't make them not look ridiculously blue peter

I can overlook the new Daleks' colour scheme simply because of their new voices. They're so.. throbbing.

Ya the daleks need to be spiced up every so often bcoz for my generation which i'm presuming is you lot who's first doctor was eccleston or tennant we don't have the same feeling that those old men do

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Still doesn't make them not look ridiculously blue peter

Well, there's been a number of Blue Peter/Who crossovers.(Especially as both are/were filmed at Wood Lane)
The Toclafane child was a BP watcher, the Abzorbaloff was a contest winner, the "Design a Tardis Console", Faction Paradox's attack on the Blue Peter garden, BP building a Slitheen ship when it crashed into Big Ben, Invasion of the Bane in Sarah Jane Adventures, Ace wore a BP badge...

 

[FleaJr]

What I want to know is: Who's attempting to build a TaRDiS?