Doctor Who Episode 3: Victory of the Daleks

[SomeBritishDude]

Yeah, I'm going to keep making these threads.

So, episode 3 of the new Doctor Who series aired yesterday in Britain. This week the Doctor and Amelia answered a called from one of the time lords old friends; Winsten Churchill. Why has the Doctor been called? Because one of Churchills right hand weapon creators has "invented" a series of cheap looking robots with lazer beams and a bathroom plunger for some reason known as Iron sights. Or, if you have even some contact with Doctor Who, the Daleks.

What are your thoughts on the quick return of the Doctors most iconic enemy? Good episode? Bad?

Personally I thought this was the best Darlek episode since the Christopher Eccolestons "Dalek". Which honestly isn't saying much since the Daleks haven't been interesting for me since then. The main thing that made this episode good where the things aside from the Dalek, such as the portrayal of Winsten Churchill which I honestly thought was brilliantly done.

We did also see Spitfires in space, which was fucking awesome. Due to budget I'm sure we only saw about 20 seconds of footage of it in total, but it was a cool 20 seconds.

This episode also saw a reincarnation of the Daleks. Now they're...bigger and...in primary shades...

The new look didn't really strike me either way. It just looked more cumbersome. But then again I'm not a fan of them so maybe I'm not the one to give an opinion.

Don't really have much of an opinion on this episode either way. It wasn't bad. It does have me excited for the next one though. The weeping angels are back!

 

[Frequen-Z]

I don't like the historical episodes, nor the Daleks, nor did I like the idea of convincing a robot he's a human to stop him exploding.

Very poor compared to the previous episode.

 

[kaziard]

isnt it dalek?
OT yeah it was a great epi but im not too sure about the new daleks, im still not sure why they are more pure than the older ones...

 

[Josh123914]

wow this is the 1st time I've been 1st to reply to a thread anyway, Winston Churchill was surprisingly well portrayed, you mispelled Dalek and in my opinion is one of the better episodes of the series(this is series 5) but one thing I didn't like was the reincarnated Daleks, when I saw them I thought 'BEHOLD THE DALEKS IN THEIR ALL THE MIGHTY COLOURS OF
LEGO !!!' I can understand though,I mean those were their colours(in terms of ranks) back in the 60's but still now it just looks cheap.

 

[Josh123914]

isnt it dalek?
OT yeah it was a great epi but im not too sure about the new daleks, im still not sure why they are more pure than the older ones...

maybe because their in primary colours?

 

[RandyRedCat]

Oh so the colours meant rank, cool necrovamp from the 60's. Not really liking Moffats take-over so far though If I'm honest. If you look at all his earlier DW contributions he mostly did the horror ones (except for "The Beast" ones, definetly the most chilling) and messed about with time a lot (pardon the pun), him taking over for the emotional writing just doesn't feel right.
That poor attempt at stopping the guy exploding by making him feel human was pitiful.

Still Moffats own creation return in the next episode and the River storyline gets a revisit so still got the faith. Apart from that though I think I may be growing out of DW sadly.

 

[NeutralMunchHotel]

What in the world is a Darlek? Damn you Steven Moffat, going around and changing everything I knew about Doctor Who...

OT: I don't think any episode has lived up to the first, however the series certainly has potential. However, if next week isn't great I'll be worried, considering the excellent source material it has.

wow this is the 1st time I've been 1st to reply to a thread

One of my guilty pleasures is seeing people who go 'First!' not... well, come first.

You weren't an idiot about it though, so I feel only sorrow and offer you my condolences.

 

[MelasZepheos_v1legacy]

I like the DALEKS, and I like this new doctor, and I really like his new companion. The new relationships strikes me like a different take on the Rose and Doc 10 one, which is nice.

I liked this episode, better than the last one but still not as much as the pilot, which was fantastic.

Also, I loved the rampant Britishness. Anytime 'Tally Ho' is used unironically I cheer a little inside.

 

[The_Decoy]

The colours just made me think of power rangers ><

Why can't the doctor go back to a month before this happened (as he was supposed to) and wipe out the daleks? He's a fricking time traveller!

Plus how come the daleks can pick off a Messerschmitt from a mile away, but can't hit the doctor from across the room?

Anyways it was still pretty good for a kids show, kept me entertained for 40 minutes.

 

[thenumberthirteen]

Nice story concept, but it didn't seem grand enough compared to other Dalek episodes. The new Dalek design is interesting, but I really liked the old (new) design.

Also the end was a bit weird. I mean talking a bomb out of exploding? In all I felt it should have been a 2 parter, and certain story beats that where glanced over could have been fleshed out more. The first part could have ended with the new dalek reveal, and it would have been paced a lot better.

 

[tetron]

isnt it dalek?
OT yeah it was a great epi but im not too sure about the new daleks, im still not sure why they are more pure than the older ones...

I'm not sure about the older ones but weren't the last ones technically half human, since they were made from humans. I may be wrong though, I find it hard to keep track of how the daleks keep coming back.

 

[Sharkie668]

The colours just made me think of power rangers ><

Why can't the doctor go back to a month before this happened (as he was supposed to) and wipe out the daleks? He's a fricking time traveller!

Plus how come the daleks can pick off a Messerschmitt from a mile away, but can't hit the doctor from across the room?

Anyways it was still pretty good for a kids show, kept me entertained for 40 minutes.

I actually thought of power rangers as well when i first saw them! Thank gosh I wasn't the only one!

The Doctor can't go back in his own time line (if that makes sense) so if he's in a tight spot he can't go back in time which would have 2 doctors and would create a time paradox.

And cause if the Daleks had hit him he would have died and then there wouldn't be a TV show any more which would make all the kids cry.

 

[oliveira8]

The colours just made me think of power rangers ><

Why can't the doctor go back to a month before this happened (as he was supposed to) and wipe out the daleks? He's a fricking time traveller!

The Doctor can't intervene in his own timeline. If he does bad shit happens.

The episode was good, but the ending was...hmpf. Also, weeping angels next episode!

 

[PoliceBox63]

Most people say oh give these things a chance before we judge but i do think one can also tell from just 3 episodes what kind of series would be in store :/ a cheesey one

also is everyone else noticing all the sexual references in the past three eps?

 

[ARatherHandsomeGent]

I found the new daleks really really funny, I just thought ''the dalek power rangers!'' and I love Winston Churchill, so it was cool to see him in a DW episode (even if he was a thief.) so yeah, I enjoyed this episode overall.

 

[oliveira8]

Oh so the colours meant rank, cool necrovamp from the 60's. Not really liking Moffats take-over so far though If I'm honest. If you look at all his earlier DW contributions he mostly did the horror ones (except for "The Beast" ones, definetly the most chilling) and messed about with time a lot (pardon the pun), him taking over for the emotional writing just doesn't feel right.
That poor attempt at stopping the guy exploding by making him feel human was pitiful.

Still Moffats own creation return in the next episode and the River storyline gets a revisit so still got the faith. Apart from that though I think I may be growing out of DW sadly.

Moffat didn't write this episode. Also forgetting "Girl in the Fireplace"? That was a non-horror Moffat episode. It was basically a love story and its considered one of the best episodes of NewWho..

 

[Mana Fiend]

I didn't like this episode nearly as much as the last episode, but I still thought it was rather good.

I think the new Dalek's fit the new look that we have for technology; they look like they were created by Apple. They don't look at technical, or ancient, but I like the way the roles are defined (the scientist detects that the self-destruct button isn't real).

Liking the memory leaking away, it should be interesting...

Oh, and the Tommy talk made me very happy. Reminded me of George's dialogue in Blackadder Goes Forth. Bring on the Angels next week!

 

[RandyRedCat]

Oh so the colours meant rank, cool necrovamp from the 60's. Not really liking Moffats take-over so far though If I'm honest. If you look at all his earlier DW contributions he mostly did the horror ones (except for "The Beast" ones, definetly the most chilling) and messed about with time a lot (pardon the pun), him taking over for the emotional writing just doesn't feel right.
That poor attempt at stopping the guy exploding by making him feel human was pitiful.

Still Moffats own creation return in the next episode and the River storyline gets a revisit so still got the faith. Apart from that though I think I may be growing out of DW sadly.

Moffat didn't write this episode. Also forgetting "Girl in the Fireplace"? That was a non-horror Moffat episode. It was basically a love story and its considered one of the best episodes of NewWho..

/Nah I remembered he did that one, loved it actually. And didn't know he wasn't involved on last nights episode, just assumed, pardon my error. I don't necessarily think he's a bad emotional writer though, just taking adjustment, Russell was just so good, or maybe it was just Tennant. But I am determined to keep the faith in his ability so can't wait til next episode.
Also, the new mystery that presented itself was cool, Amy not remembering the Daleks from earlier series and the crack in Time and space that keeps showing, very interesting.

 

[Rednog]

I'm worried about a pattern that is starting to emerge with this Doctor. If you haven't noticed so far the setup has been Doctor is faced with two terrible decisions but he really can't choose and in strolls in Pond who derives an answer. Not to insult the intelligence of person whose day job was dressing up and delivering cards but why is she upstaging the doctor? She can't be the sharpest crayon in the box, she doesn't have to be pants on head retarded, but she is outwitting the most intelligent person on the planet.

That aside I'm still somewhat baffled as to why the Daleks evolved, they just happened to have a space ship that had the ability to improve Daleks and its trigger is the Doctor's voice? Why not use the upgrades from the get go, and why require your worst enemy's voice as a trigger? Even if you have your enemy's voice be a trigger it is the worse possible choice against a timelord considering the guy regenerates and changes his voice. How could you possibly program something for that? Couldn't you just have a random person say the same thing and a computer would have absolutely no proof if it really was the doctor or not.

I guess it is all in the name of rebooting the Doctor Who franchise, changing the tardis, the theme, the doctor, the enemies, etc. But it just seems odd because his future companion described the future doctor to be a complete badass and Tennant's doctor was definitely heading down that path, he was shutting down enemies left and right. I guess the current Doctor is going to take a backseat for a while while they reintroduce all the old enemies again before he takes over again, viewers definitely got a flavor of it when he stepped through the images of the past doctors but we haven't seen a sign of this in the last 2 episodes. Or maybe the "badass" doctor will be the next one. I'm going to keep watching, but I really hope the new direction doesn't turn me off this great show.

 

[Jharry5]

Unfortunately I missed most of the second episode, so I don't have much to compare it to, but overall I thought it was a good episode. The new Daleks looked a lot more imposing, though the primary colours did seem a little... off, somehow.
But yeah, overall I enjoyed it. The 4th episode looked even better from the little trailer...