Does this sicken you? I mean wtf.

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crimson5pheonix

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Johnathan C Snippington IV
I'm not saying all Texans are bad. I have friends and relatives in Texas. I just don't like the state itself. I'm not saying everyone in Texas follows the stereotype, it's just that the stereotype of Texas is a very, very bad one.
So why do you believe the stereotype? Why should it matter that Texas has a stereotype. ow many "stereotypical" Texans do you see? Short of someone acting stereotypical for laughs, I never see anyone who "acts" like a "Texan". You know, I may just not be exposed enough (living in an average American suburb) to rural Texans, except that I used to live in the middle of nowhere in Southeast Texas and visit central nowhere fairly regularly and I have yet to actually see someone play the Texas stereotype straight.
I don't believe it. I hate stereotypes. I judge people based on their own merits. I judge Texas based on it's collective successes and mistakes. The Texas Collective has made more mistakes than successes in my book. I don't hate everyone in Texas, but I don't like what apparently are the ideals of the majority of the state.
So you have preconceived notions of Texas? That's a stereotype.
No. I don't. As I said, I don't judge the people, I judge the state. I judge the state by decisions it has made in politics and other things. The state generally makes bad ideas. The one this thread is a particular example. I don't have preconcieved notions. There is no denying that the state made a bad choice here unless these people are punsihed by the law.
Even though this was thought up, financed, and put together by Kraft Food, it's Texas' fault? That makes no sense. This could have been staged in California, New York, South Africa, or any multitude of places.
 

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Cheveyo said:
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Johnathan C Snippington IV
I'm not saying all Texans are bad. I have friends and relatives in Texas. I just don't like the state itself. I'm not saying everyone in Texas follows the stereotype, it's just that the stereotype of Texas is a very, very bad one.
So why do you believe the stereotype? Why should it matter that Texas has a stereotype. ow many "stereotypical" Texans do you see? Short of someone acting stereotypical for laughs, I never see anyone who "acts" like a "Texan". You know, I may just not be exposed enough (living in an average American suburb) to rural Texans, except that I used to live in the middle of nowhere in Southeast Texas and visit central nowhere fairly regularly and I have yet to actually see someone play the Texas stereotype straight.
George W. Bush.
Was born in Connecticut and went to high school and college in various places in the northeast.

You wanted a stereotypical Texan and I gave you one.
It doesn't matter where he was born and went to school. He lives in Texas.
So if he moved to where you lived, he would become a stereotype of your location?

He doesn't strike me as the surfer type, nor is he Mexican.
But he is perfectly suited to playing a Texan?
 

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Genuienly disgraceful. Such a shame that there are still enough Texans to give the impression that the majority are culturally backwards, when in reality the majority are salt-of-the-earth kind of people.
 

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crimson5pheonix said:
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crimson5pheonix said:
Johnathan C Snippington IV
I'm not saying all Texans are bad. I have friends and relatives in Texas. I just don't like the state itself. I'm not saying everyone in Texas follows the stereotype, it's just that the stereotype of Texas is a very, very bad one.
So why do you believe the stereotype? Why should it matter that Texas has a stereotype. ow many "stereotypical" Texans do you see? Short of someone acting stereotypical for laughs, I never see anyone who "acts" like a "Texan". You know, I may just not be exposed enough (living in an average American suburb) to rural Texans, except that I used to live in the middle of nowhere in Southeast Texas and visit central nowhere fairly regularly and I have yet to actually see someone play the Texas stereotype straight.
George W. Bush.
Was born in Connecticut and went to high school and college in various places in the northeast.

You wanted a stereotypical Texan and I gave you one.
It doesn't matter where he was born and went to school. He lives in Texas.
So if he moved to where you lived, he would become a stereotype of your location?

He doesn't strike me as the surfer type, nor is he Mexican.
But he is perfectly suited to playing a Texan?

Yes. Which is why I mentioned him.
He'd also be good for basically all of "the south".
So you're perfectly fine stereotyping an entire region because of the actions of some upper class New England twit?
 

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crimson5pheonix said:
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crimson5pheonix said:
Johnathan C Snippington IV
I'm not saying all Texans are bad. I have friends and relatives in Texas. I just don't like the state itself. I'm not saying everyone in Texas follows the stereotype, it's just that the stereotype of Texas is a very, very bad one.
So why do you believe the stereotype? Why should it matter that Texas has a stereotype. ow many "stereotypical" Texans do you see? Short of someone acting stereotypical for laughs, I never see anyone who "acts" like a "Texan". You know, I may just not be exposed enough (living in an average American suburb) to rural Texans, except that I used to live in the middle of nowhere in Southeast Texas and visit central nowhere fairly regularly and I have yet to actually see someone play the Texas stereotype straight.
George W. Bush.
Was born in Connecticut and went to high school and college in various places in the northeast.

You wanted a stereotypical Texan and I gave you one.
It doesn't matter where he was born and went to school. He lives in Texas.
So if he moved to where you lived, he would become a stereotype of your location?

He doesn't strike me as the surfer type, nor is he Mexican.
But he is perfectly suited to playing a Texan?

Yes. Which is why I mentioned him.
He'd also be good for basically all of "the south".
So you're perfectly fine stereotyping an entire region because of the actions of some upper class New England twit?

Oh, no it isn't just his actions.
He just fits the mold that was already there.
You honestly believe that all southerners/Texans act like that? Or that even a minority of the population acts like that?
 

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I think this is disgusting and a disgrace.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/us-aussie-show-knocks-a-kangaroo-around-for-laughs/story-e6freuy9-1225837529227

Would you be happy if this was being done to the national emblem of your country? It's damn revolting for any Australian. Please let everyone know that this is no way to treat any animal, let alone a national symbol. Excuse me i have to go vomit.

They have a poll on the site.
"Would you be happy if this was being done to the national emblem of your country?"
- So it's national pride, right? Something I cannot argument for*.


"Please let everyone know that this is no way to treat any animal (...)"

A kangaroo could enjoy this if it wasn't for the leach. Most animals are not as good at boxing as kangaroos though and probably wouldn't be able like it as much.

*Since George Carlin explained why he had never understood it. Saying that pride comes from achieving and that being born on a specific location isn't an achievement.

With this said plus the "George-Carlin-argument", would it be OK if they changed the name of the act to something neutral and removed the leach? I think it would.
(It would probably be dangerous for at least the clown but that's another discussion. :p)
 

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I don't really see much here to get freaked over, maybe something to fall asleep over though. This rates as a "meh." to me.
 

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I don't really see much here to get freaked over, maybe something to fall asleep over though. This rates as a "meh." to me.
You're not Australian. How would you feel if they replaced it with an animal that you use for a symbol? Not to mention that it is cruel to the animal. They have it tied up and forced it to box with a clown. Why? Because that's apparently what they think Australlians do. It's sterotypical.
 

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You honestly believe that all southerners/Texans act like that? Or that even a minority of the population acts like that?

I'm going to say a word and I want you to describe the very first image that comes to mind.

Mexican.
Brown skin.
 

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Cheveyo said:
crimson5pheonix said:
You honestly believe that all southerners/Texans act like that? Or that even a minority of the population acts like that?

I'm going to say a word and I want you to describe the very first image that comes to mind.

Mexican.
A person who lives in Mexico or of Mexican descent.
 

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I don't really think its offensive, just really retarded. I can't imagine being entertained by it. Now if the 'roo was allowed to use its legs to eviscerate that clown, then I would be entertained. Given that it's Texas, they were probably considering putting it in a rodeo, and went with the less offensive option.

And as an American, it is annoying how everyone thinks Texas IS America. Attention rest of the world: They get on our nerves too.
 

crimson5pheonix

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Cheveyo said:
crimson5pheonix said:
Cheveyo said:
crimson5pheonix said:
You honestly believe that all southerners/Texans act like that? Or that even a minority of the population acts like that?

I'm going to say a word and I want you to describe the very first image that comes to mind.

Mexican.
Brown skin.

You're not very descriptive are you.
Anyway, one of two images popped into your head.
1. Dark skinned guy with a big black mustache, a sombrero and a poncho talking about not needing badges.
2. Gangster with baggy pants who says "ese" all the time.
You know as well as I do that one of those is what first came to mind. You tried to make yourself feel not so racist by reducing your description to simply "brown skin".

Stereotypes exist. They're not always accurate, though they can be sometimes.
You, being a Texan are simply going to have to live with being thought of that way. We as Americans will always be seen as loud, obnoxious assholes by the rest of the world. And I, as a Mexican descendant have to live with the stereotypes of my people.
You will most likely never be able to change these things and neither will I. All you CAN do is strive to prove them wrong.
The problem is I really don't think of either of those stereotypes unless I'm watching TV at the same time. Living in Texas, I see many central American people, including Mexicans. I see them everywhere from street corners to business heads on a regular basis. The only time I see sombreros in real life is on the heads of tourists. I suppose if I had to stereotype the Mexicans I see on a regular basis, I would say more of a ranch hand than anything simply because when I go to through the country, I mostly see ranch hands as being Mexican, but even that's unfair as my uncle is a ranch hand and is decidedly not Mexican.
 

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Cheveyo said:
crimson5pheonix said:
Cheveyo said:
crimson5pheonix said:
You honestly believe that all southerners/Texans act like that? Or that even a minority of the population acts like that?

I'm going to say a word and I want you to describe the very first image that comes to mind.

Mexican.
Brown skin.

You're not very descriptive are you.
Anyway, one of two images popped into your head.
1. Dark skinned guy with a big black mustache, a sombrero and a poncho talking about not needing badges.
2. Gangster with baggy pants who says "ese" all the time.
You know as well as I do that one of those is what first came to mind. You tried to make yourself feel not so racist by reducing your description to simply "brown skin".

Stereotypes exist. They're not always accurate, though they can be sometimes.
You, being a Texan are simply going to have to live with being thought of that way. We as Americans will always be seen as loud, obnoxious assholes by the rest of the world. And I, as a Mexican descendant have to live with the stereotypes of my people.
You will most likely never be able to change these things and neither will I. All you CAN do is strive to prove them wrong.
Gee, I did not know you could read minds. And no, you asked for the first thing that popped in our heads when you said that word. Brown Skin was the first thing that popped into his head and that is what he wrote.

Their is only two minutes between your post and his response. That's about the right response time since he has to respond to the notification, find your post and then quote it and type his.

And now you are making sterotypes about us, thinking that we are high and mighty and will do anything to protect our own arguements. No, when he thought "Mexican", Brown Skin was the first thing he thought of. Don't make illogical solutions just because you didn't get the response you wanted.