Dog get's shot by police *WARNING* may upset alot of viewers.

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Blind Sight

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ITT: 2 types of people

1. I luv dogs! <3 HOW DARE THEY HURT AN ANIMAL! (half the people + 1 mod)

2. I don't have all the evidence to draw a conclusion, nor to condone or condemn, but surly they must of had some other motive other than to act like Hitler on camera. Regardless I would never tolerate inhumane activity and thus it is my duty to investigate matters such as this further before I reach a conclusion. Maybe I will reach an understand with other people in this thread. (half the people + PirateKitty)
You forgot 3. If a dog so much as looks at you funny KILL IT WITH FIRE.

And oddly enough, 4. Rapists deserve to be killed (don't know how that came up)
 

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You doubt it, you don't know it.

A 6 minute (silent) clip posted by a user in support of people who fight animal cruelty (a noble cause admittedly), with no context given, in the middle of a street in broad daylight - with several officers around.

It's not exactly convincing me yet. Don't get me wrong, I don't want the animal shot and I'd much rather it hadn't been, but forgive me for not simply assuming that a group of police officers are so vindictive as to kill a harmless animal.
Exactly.

Assumptions based on internet comments? No thank you.

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It's like you're assuming that just because he's a serial rapist automatically makes it ok to murder him...
Rapists deserve to be murdered. They forfeit their right to life.
And with that said, I'm glad you do not nor shall ever have any sort of authority or commanding power.

No law can be arbitrary, no sentence should be greater than the crime committed, no one man should dictate when and how another man's life comes to an end. Clamor for the willful and unnecessary death of a man and you're no better than the criminal.
 

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I'm one of those oddballs who sees my own dogs at least as above anyone else, so in order of importance I have Family, Dogs, Friends > random people I've never met and don't give a shit about, so to watch this video really angered me.

That's not to say I don't understand that sometimes dogs or other animals have to be put down, if my dogs bit a child I would have to grudgingly accept that there wouldn't be anything I can do, and that the child is an idiot.

It's the way it was put down that bothered me, fuck me, they had to shoot it twice?! If anyone has a dog or has owned one, you know how they know they've done something wrong when the head goes down and the tail starts wagging. To see that dog laying there, in pain, tail beating the ground tore at my heart. Then the cop waits before shooting again, wtf? If you can see it's still alive, double tap!

All I saw was a scared, confused animal get shot because it got provoked. Then again, it's in America, where the main way of dealing with a threat is to neutralize it with any force. You do the same to people seen as a threat so at least you are consistent.
I with you here, I have lived with and around dogs my entire life and they have their own personalities and feelings. My family treats our dogs like family. I don't think the dog deserved to be shot even if it did charge a child, there is a good chance that child was acting stupid and put himself/herself in the position to be charged by the dog. This whole scene makes these cops look incompetent. They couldn't even restrain an already restrained animal that was more scared of them than anything. I don't hate cops or law enforcement, but this incident does not raise my respect for them in some situations. Shooting the dog seems like a bad call in this case, but it would probably be put down anyhow.

http://www.hannibal.net/news/x1600620381/LaGrange-dog-owner-vows-to-fight-for-law-changes

After reading that article it sounds like this dog was the victim of an asshole owner who has no business owning dogs. If this douche took any time at all to train his dogs they would be less likely to do this.

I have a pitbull, I got her from the animal shelter, she was one of a group that was rescued from people who used them as fighting dogs. She is not aggressive, does not unwantonly attack people or other animals. She does not chase kids, charge them or otherwise. Kids that have been around her find her to be a sweetheart and love to play with them, especially tug of war. It is a bit depressing that a good deal of adults and children who have met her are instantly afraid of her simply because of her breed and worse to think that breeds get a bad name because of asshole people who raise asshole dogs.

Yeah, the part where the dog was shot and laying there wagging it's tail got to me.
 

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No law can be arbitrary, no sentence should be greater than the crime committed, no one man should dictate when and how another man's life comes to an end. Clamor for the willful and unnecessary death of a man and you're no better than the criminal.
Not entirely sure, but are you quoting the Hedonistic Principle, where the pain of a punishment must outweigh the pleasure of the crime, but not to an extreme or it loses all its effectiveness?

Pariah87 said:
It's the way it was put down that bothered me, fuck me, they had to shoot it twice?! If anyone has a dog or has owned one, you know how they know they've done something wrong when the head goes down and the tail starts wagging. To see that dog laying there, in pain, tail beating the ground tore at my heart. Then the cop waits before shooting again, wtf? If you can see it's still alive, double tap!
Read the news report, he shot it in the head to put it out of its misery.
 

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I get what you're trying to say about waiting for real information before making a call, and I normally would agree with that.

However you are completely ignoring the fact they clearly didn't have the knowledge to deal with the situation properly. I think that is really evident in the footage.

Why didn't they call animal control? Hell, why didn't they call a fellow police officer who has done a dog handling course?

By the way, one of my close friend's Father is in the dog squad with the police force and we showed him the video a few hours ago and he was absolutely appalled at how they handled that situation. He told us with full confidence that those guys didn't know what the hell they were doing.

In my mind, the sheer fact that two people who didn't know what they were doing were trying to deal with an incident - well that's bad enough. The police should always respond with personnel suitable for the situation and if they can't then they should wait until someone with experience arrives on the scene. Doing anything less than that is irresponsible.

If you had a friend about to jump off the building, I assume you'd want a police officer on the scene with a know how in negotiating. Same thing applies here. Just because it's a dog doesn't mean we don't get to call these police officers out over their lack of knowledge.

Do I think the police officer should be sacked? No, I don't. I think he was just someone in over their head and didn't really know what to do. I expect better from the police force.
 

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Pirate Kitty said:
I get what you're trying to say about waiting for real information before making a call, and I normally would agree with that.

However you are completely ignoring the fact they clearly didn't have the knowledge to deal with the situation properly. I think that is really evident in the footage.

Why didn't they call animal control? Hell, why didn't they call a fellow police officer who has done a dog handling course?

By the way, one of my close friend's Father is in the dog squad with the police force and we showed him the video a few hours ago and he was absolutely appalled at how they handled that situation. He told us with full confidence that those guys didn't know what the hell they were doing.

In my mind, the sheer fact that two people who didn't know what they were doing were trying to deal with an incident - well that's bad enough. The police should always respond with personnel suitable for the situation and if they can't then they should wait until someone with experience arrives on the scene. Doing anything less than that is irresponsible.

If you had a friend about to jump off the building, I assume you'd want a police officer on the scene with a know how in negotiating. Same thing applies here. Just because it's a dog doesn't mean we don't get to call these police officers out over their lack of knowledge.

Do I think the police officer should be sacked? No, I don't. I think he was just someone in over their head and didn't really know what to do. I expect better from the police force.
To add to this, the cop doing the shooting looked like either he is a PISS POOR shot or has no idea about making the first shot count; the dog is standing there not moving AT ALL and the cop is pretty much point blank range yet he can't make a kill shot. He has to shoot to injure, then give the dog a good 40 seconds of laying there in pain before he decides to make the kill shot. Looks pretty damn unprofessional in the least to me, at worst it looks pretty damn uncaring.
 

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Pirate Kitty said:
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Considering it is chained up on a nearby car i highly doubt it.
Tell me: where was the dog prior to this? What is the dog's history? Who is the dog's owner? What were the police officers saying to one another?

Oh yeah, that's right, you don't know.

Informed opinions are the way to go. Regurgitating hate you found posted on the internet is a sure-fire way to live a misinformed life.

I could post a video of a serial rapist getting shot by police and leave the comment: 'homeless man offends cop - is shot dead' and, considering how quick everyone here is to blindly follow in suit, you'd believe it.

Silly.
Where does it say that he was killing kids and was rabid?
Sorry, I ignore sarcasm when it comes to killing dogs.
The thing is that there are special units to handle situations like these and are trained to do so.
The video is silent and we don't know more, but even if the dog was growling then it gives the police officers no right to just outforwardly slay the dog.
No right.
I'm a dog person, I cringe when it comes to slaying dogs.
Well, I would sacrifice people for my own dogs.
Yes I'm just that cruel.
But for strays? I would slay them to keep the people of course.
 

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Wow, what idiots. Save your bullets for real dogs like rapists and killers, and leave the domesticated animals alone. Its funny how we're afraid of capital punishment but we don't have qualms about killing innocent animals for doing stuff like growling.

Not to sound like PETA or something, but yeah, nice going.
 

Staskala

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Don't you still have Rabies in the USA? The dog was probably shot because of that.
That's as much a guess as anything else in this thread, but I'd say it's a plausible scenario. I highly doubt they would shoot the dog for fun.
 

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Are we so certain he shot it with, you know, a bullet? I mean, it looked to as if it might have been tranq'd, though, not probably. Also, by the way the dude acted as he came ot the camera, it looked to me like he was pissed, maybe the other guy shot because, well, fuck, i don't know, but it looked like his partner wasn't happy about it.
 

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You've never shot an animal have you? You have no idea what a bullet actually does to a body. Trust me, that dog was as good as dead after the first shot, it was only adrenaline keeping it alive. The second shot was mercy. Now as odd as it may sound you can shoot a deer with a hollowpoint right through the heart and it'll run off. To be honest that dog will probably not have had an immediate reaction that would show it was going to die.

He was probably examining the animal and seeing if he could save it before shooting again. But at that range that animal would've been...well. Now since there's no audio he could ahve been doing anything. Might have even been saying he was sorry.
You're quite right, I have never shot anything that wasn't made of clay. I was aware that bodies spasm or move of their own accord, the dog didn't look jerky or random so I assumed it was still "alive" if you get what I mean? However I shall defer to your experience and in a way it makes the video more bearable. Thanks for the input, you learn something new every day.
 

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That was a dick move.
If the dog was literally pouncing at him desiring his throat for dinner, that'd be different, but it was just kinda sitting there. Why did it need to be shot?
Congratulations, officer. I think you might've won my douche of the week award (uless that guy who stole game consoles from children with cancer was this week. I can't remember. If so, then this douche of the week will be a real contest!)
 

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Really? Seven pages over a dog? Boohoo, a single animal has died, I must mourn its loss. You know, there are actual humans getting killed every day. Surely there are better things to focus all this attention on.
 

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Staskala said:
Don't you still have Rabies in the USA? The dog was probably shot because of that.
That's as much a guess as anything else in this thread, but I'd say it's a plausible scenario. I highly doubt they would shoot the dog for fun.
There's no way this dog was rabid, rabid animals are straight up aggressive and would not be trying to flee from them when being restrained or just lay there like it did at one point. Nor would it WAG ITS TAIL after being shot.
 

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Obviously they couldn't be arsed to deal with it properly so they just shot the fuck out of it instead. Don't really care.