Dog get's shot by police *WARNING* may upset alot of viewers.

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Cruelty
1 : the quality or state of being cruel
2a : a cruel action b : inhuman treatment

Cruel
1 : disposed to inflict pain or suffering : devoid of humane feelings
2a : causing or conducive to injury, grief, or pain b : unrelieved by leniency

They would have been cruel if they shot the dog in the leg and made it hobble around for an hour, but this was one shot to the head, instant death. They just ended it's sad miserable life.
 

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mr_rubino said:
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You think too much. If we have to kill 100 innocents to make sure 1 guilty man is put to death for a crime that is in no way related to the taking of a human life [!], then that is the risk of living in a logical and civilized society.
Ah, lawful stupid, gotcha.
 

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Hairetos said:
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Pirate Kitty said:
I could post a video of a serial rapist getting shot by police and leave the comment: 'homeless man offends cop - is shot dead' and, considering how quick everyone here is to blindly follow in suit, you'd believe it.

Silly.
To make that situation parallel to this one, the rapist would have to be handcuffed to a pole, then executed by the police officer. I don't think that video would go over well at all.
Don't bother arguing with Pirate Kitty. She's like the most lawful neutral member of this forum. Nothing you say will change her opinion of The Law.

Anywho, yeah, they're assholes from the looks of the videos. I see no blood in its maw or anything else that indicates a violent past. Just some everyday police sadism.
Lawful neutral implies that the person in question follows a certain set of laws, either by region or personal codes. But Pirate Kitty is Lawful Stupid, and I'm not the first to say so. She always fights for the police and the law, no matter how wrong it may be. Well, except for incest, she's into that gross-ass shit.

OT: I like animals a lot, so I'm a bit biased. But in light of recent information, I have no doubts that the police over-reacted in this situation.
 

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OK, all I can say is what p****es. Honestly I can take down a fricking full grown Bernese Mountain dog thats pissed as hell (didn't trust humans cause of the owner and he was going after my fathers miniature dauschands), without a problem. Dogs are not much of a threat unless in a pack, for 1. 2, this is utter bullshit. Those officers should get shot for no reason like the dog.
 

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The YouTube replies are frustrating. Most people are making huge assumptions, as if this clip, that's silent, and taken out of context is definitive.

I mean, regardless of whether or not the dog was a threat, or if it should have been shot, that doesn't mean the police men should be shot, or that all cops are bad. Huge generalizations and assumptions really shouldn't be made from this clip, or at all.

It's a sad video, seeing an animal shot, but it doesn't seem as if the officers wanted to do it. They were keeping their distance for a solid five minutes while talking on the phone to someone, likely trying to figure out what should be done about the animal. There are much more humane ways to put an animal down, but if that's what needed to be done, the officers were only doing their job.
 

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Sober Thal said:
This is what happens when you abandon animals... police are called, and if the animal is violent, it gets put down.

If you don't think that animal was a threat, I don't think you know much about dogs. Watch the video again, after he gets the collar stick on him. That is a violent animal that posed a threat.
I'm sorry, but you're an idiot. The dog was getting upset because it had a collar on and the cop was swinging him around, which was obviously not comfortable. Hell, if you look closely the dog bites at the stick, not even at the police officer. Clearly these were amateur cops considering what they did. If it was giving them so much trouble, they should have use a tranquilizer dart. No waste of ammo, no waste of life, I mean come on. And if you also looked earlier the dog was merely backing away from the police when they tried to capture it. Were it violent, it would have lunged.

So yes, I do know about dogs and I also know your statement was both incredibly naive and stupid.
 

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Aidinthel said:
Really? Seven pages over a dog? Boohoo, a single animal has died, I must mourn its loss. You know, there are actual humans getting killed every day. Surely there are better things to focus all this attention on.
It's more the focus on police brutality than the actual dog dying, you damn buzz kill.
 

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dashiz94 said:
Sober Thal said:
This is what happens when you abandon animals... police are called, and if the animal is violent, it gets put down.

If you don't think that animal was a threat, I don't think you know much about dogs. Watch the video again, after he gets the collar stick on him. That is a violent animal that posed a threat.
I'm sorry, but you're an idiot. The dog was getting upset because it had a collar on and the cop was swinging him around, which was obviously not comfortable. Hell, if you look closely the dog bites at the stick, not even at the police officer. Clearly these were amateur cops considering what they did. If it was giving them so much trouble, they should have use a tranquilizer dart. No waste of ammo, no waste of life, I mean come on. And if you also looked earlier the dog was merely backing away from the police when they tried to capture it. Were it violent, it would have lunged.

So yes, I do know about dogs and I also know your statement was both incredibly naive and stupid.
QFT. Most dogs (and even cats) would flip out or fight against restraint in a situation like that. Calling the dog a "violent animal that posed a threat" simply because it resisted being restrained by strange people it that type of situation is to know nothing about dogs. I have a medium sized dog that is a mix between a Rat Terrier and an Australian Shepherd who hates being on a leash and will buck and fight like a wild horse being broken when put on a leash. But he is not violent or a threat in any way.

The dog growling at passerbys and chasing people makes it more of a threat than fighting being restrained in the manner it did.
 

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The dog was not acting fine with the collar on. It was trying to attack, and it was trying to escape. Rabies is not the only reason to shoot a dog. This was a bad outcome, but I don't see anything here that is completely out-of-line. Anything more than a slap on the wrist for something like this is excessive.
Did we watch the same video? Exactly when did the dog try to attack?

As for trying to escape, it was a loose dog being handled by a stranger, how do you expect it to act?
At 4:54, then he's off camera for about 8 seconds, then again at 5:05, then he's off camera for another 7 seconds.

Those are two obvious (to anyone who's been around dogs a lot) signs of extreme aggression in about 30 seconds, and there's no telling what was going on off camera during the time in-between. But it looked like whatever was going on, the officer was having a hell of a time controlling the animal while we couldn't see him.

He also tried to get at them at 1:15, and would have if it weren't for the chain around his neck.

These animals are big, and they are strong. Most animal control personnel use two collars for a dog that big. This officer was obviously unfamiliar with the equipment, and he only had one. I guarantee you'd be shitting your pants if you were in his shoes.

And besides, best case scenario, the dog gets taken to a shelter. Do you know what happens at shelters? Dogs get assessed for aggressive behavior. If they're deemed to be aggressive (as this dog with an abusive owner probably would be), they're put down. If they're not deemed to be aggressive, they're put up for adoption. If they're not adopted within a certain time period (this adult male of an aggressive breed... unlikely), they're put down. This dog was almost certain to be dead within 72 hours of this video being taken anyway.

If they'd shot him and laughed as he hobbled around, I'd understand the outrage. If they'd intentionally caused him prolonged pain, fine. If they'd made no attempt to subdue the dog before shooting him, I might get that, too. I just don't get all the anger over this. Badly handled situation, but not cruelty by any stretch of the imagination.
 

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Sober Thal said:
This is what happens when you abandon animals... police are called, and if the animal is violent, it gets put down.

If you don't think that animal was a threat, I don't think you know much about dogs. Watch the video again, after he gets the collar stick on him. That is a violent animal that posed a threat.
It tried to run away. It did not at any point try to advance towards them. In addition, it was completely calm, not even trying to run away, before they put a choke collar stick on him. That would get me a bit riled up too.

As for this video, I'm unsurprised. Somewhere there is probably a good patrol cop. I've never met one. I've met a police chief who seemed a decent fellow, and I assume that at one point he must've been a decent fellow and a patrol cop. However, every cop I've met at a time they held that position was an ass.

And besides, if a cop can shoot a kid off of a bike, run over him, plant a weapon on him on film, and get away with it (story and video for that was posted on this site a couple months back) - why are we supposed to be surprised that a cop would shoot a dog?

The term "pig" did not come about for no reason. It is a title many cops deserve.