Dog get's shot by police *WARNING* may upset alot of viewers.

[Uncle_Brainhorn]

I'm assuming by "pigs" you mean Police officers?

Yes. I guess it's more of an American term.

 

[TheDarkestDerp]

It's been said before, but without sound it seems like I may be missing some data to make a better informed assessment.
Even without sound though, this just doesn't make sense to me. The animal doesn't seem aggressive, just frightened. And the officer fired his sidearm AFTER he'd already ensnared the dog with a capture harness. On that point, why use his sidearm on the animal when officers carry tasers to incapacitate suspects these days. It looked like one of the officers had one out the whole time even...

 

[Magicman10893]

1) Why wouldn't they have used some kind of tranquilizer to incapacitate the dog before chaining it up with the pole and then shooting it? What was he doing, keeping it still so he could actually hit it?
2) Why not simply call animal control instead of handling it themselves? That would be the very FIRST thing I would do if I was a cop called in for that kind of situation. Hell, if I was the person that the dog "threatened" I would have started with trying to contact animal control.
3) People have an easy time forgiving my murderer of a grandfather, but a dog that gave a low growl gets shot after about 10 minutes? Wow, that's not hypocritical in the slightest. On the topic of forgiveness, I saw a video on the anniversary of the Columbine incident and one of the people that was shot and who's best friend was killed said she forgave the two boys that committed the shooting. Yet a dog that growled, not attacked, bit or scratched, but growled gets shoot while it is already chained to a car (chained by the person who it apparently threatened before) and locked up with the pole? The bullshit meter in my head is literally pounding a way out of my skull right about now.

 

[cairocat]

I'm thinking taser, just saying.

Taser? You kidding me? That would piss the dog off even more.

Humans react differently to those kinds of things, because they actually understand.

You try tazing a dog? Sure, it will go down as long as you are sending a stream of electricity into it, but as soon as you stop that thing is going to flip. It has no idea whats going on, and its not gonna hang around to find out.

Tranqulizer? (though I doubt any police officer has a tranquilizer gun).

Or, who knows? Maybe get an actual person who knows how to deal with dogs?

I was actually thinking that the taze would have brought him down and knocked him out because, yeah, otherwise he'd be even more angry. Looks too fast for a tranq, IMO. Also you have to think about the practicality of firing an unsurpressed bullet in a city street, or the casual attitude in which he fired. The guy in the back was readying his pistol just in case, the guy with the dog had something else.

 

[LockandKey]

Considering it is chained up on a nearby car i highly doubt it.

Tell me: where was the dog prior to this?.

I'm guessing chained up to the car?

If it was violent then i doubt it would be chained up to anything, you ever tried chaining a highly aggressive dog to a car?

Actually you could of course have the dog already chained to the car and subject it to horrible things to make it go crazy.

 

[Tekkawarrior]

I'm assuming by "pigs" you mean Police officers?

Yes. I guess it's more of an American term.

Don't you think it's unfair to call police pigs? I mean most of the time they are there to protect you. Sure there are a few idiots here and there, but calling saying pigs instead of police is pretty out of order. In my opinion atleast.

 

[spartan1077]

I can't believe people automatically assume it was the cop's fault. There is no sound! There is no backstory! The dog could've been threatening and the cops could've called in to see what they should do with it. Hell, it could've had a bomb strapped to it or something. At around 4:50, the dog tries to do something off-camera and that causes panic. So they had to put it down. I highly doubt any animal cruelty is shown here

 

[cairocat]

I can't believe people automatically assume it was the cop's fault. There is no sound! There is no backstory! The dog could've been threatening and the cops could've called in to see what they should do with it. Hell, it could've had a bomb strapped to it or something. At around 4:50, the dog tries to do something off-camera and that causes panic. So they had to put it down. I highly doubt any animal cruelty is shown here

See, you're no better. On one side we've got anti-government protesters using this to show how corrupt and inhumane our law enforcement is. You are thinking more rationally, but are still making excuses. I realize this may come off as elitist so I apologize, I understand how emotional people get at seeing other's reactions that seem rather illogical. That's the real irony of it.

 

[Nopenahnuhuh]

You doubt it, you don't know it.

A 6 minute (silent) clip posted by a user in support of people who fight animal cruelty (a noble cause admittedly), with no context given, in the middle of a street in broad daylight - with several officers around.

It's not exactly convincing me yet. Don't get me wrong, I don't want the animal shot and I'd much rather it hadn't been, but forgive me for not simply assuming that a group of police officers are so vindictive as to kill a harmless animal.

Exactly.

Assumptions based on internet comments? No thank you.

It's like you're assuming that just because he's a serial rapist automatically makes it ok to murder him...

Rapists deserve to be murdered. They forfeit their right to life.

And with that said, I'm glad you do not nor shall ever have any sort of authority or commanding power.

No law can be arbitrary, no sentence should be greater than the crime committed, no one man should dictate when and how another man's life comes to an end. Clamor for the willful and unnecessary death of a man and you're no better than the criminal.

Almost every sentence is greater than the crime committed. If we're going to argue it from a certain angle, you could say that even a years jail time is "greater" than the crime of rape, because in that time a person may be raped in prison, and will have lost much more of their life than the victim of the rape lost.

However, sentences are greater than the crimes. There's a reason for that. If you don't have a much stricter sentence than the crime committed, then there is no incentive to not commit the crime. If I know that if I steal $10,000, I will only be fined $10,000, I will most likely steal the money. I have nothing to lose from it, if I'm caught I'm back to where I started, and I have $10,000 to gain from it if I'm not caught. A sentence that is equal to or lighter than a crime is useless.

Of, and it is not unnecessary to kill a rapist. In many cases, it can be unnecessary to kill a murderer- if it was a crime of passion or a crime committed for a specific reason, then perhaps imprisonment and counseling could fix the murderer. No such actions can fix a rapist. They are broken beyond repair. They are a danger. They are not human. They deserve to die.

So when it comes down to it, you'll pull the trigger? You'll look that "human animal" in the eye and take his life in cold blood?

Yes. Then I'll have a cup of hot chocolate and sleep like a baby.

What's stopping you from doing it now, then?

 

[conzan]

you know this is one dog children in 3rd world country's are being shot and tortured all of the time. yes this is sad but there's no need to get so angry think of it this way if that dog was in the world about 500 years ago it would have been killed to, yes this is very sad but its not the worst thing in the world, yes these policeman did wrong but there not the most evil people in the world or hell probably even there country, just don't get super angry and upset because of one dog when there are people, humans out there who are just as helpless who need help

 

[conzan]

I'm assuming by "pigs" you mean Police officers?

Yes. I guess it's more of an American term.

Don't you think it's unfair to call police pigs? I mean most of the time they are there to protect you. Sure there are a few idiots here and there, but calling saying pigs instead of police is pretty out of order. In my opinion atleast.

agreed 100% with you there, their not all bad most of them are good just one or two are dicks just like any other work place

 

[xc00l n3rdx]

I haven't watched the videos or read the article because I don't want to see it, but I still think this is disgusting!! Animal cruelty is one of the worst things to ever happen! How can someone do it??? I mean when I look at a dog or any other animal I just melt and want to cuddle it!! These are just pathetic people who obviously can't fight with someone who can defend themselves and they deserve to be tortured!!

I laughed longer than I should have. By that I mean I assume your point wasn't to make a reader laugh at all.

Well that all depends on what part you laughed at. If it was all of it then no you was not meant to laugh!

Saying the police officers deserve to be tortured for shooting a dog is laughable. You're spewing hate on a situation over which you're completely ignorant of the circumstances.

I don't think the police are to be totally blamed. If anything, it's the owner.

OK yeah i should have read the article before commenting but honestly I'm a wimp when it comes to things like that. I have however read more comments and i will happily take back the comment that they should be tortured. I still believe that animal cruelty is disgusting and the people who commit it are pathetic.

And also i do believe that majority of the time it is the owners fault for the way the dog behaves. But still, do you really think the dog deserved to be shot? Was there not a better way to do it?

 

[xc00l n3rdx]

I haven't watched the videos or read the article because I don't want to see it, but I still think this is disgusting!! Animal cruelty is one of the worst things to ever happen! How can someone do it??? I mean when I look at a dog or any other animal I just melt and want to cuddle it!! These are just pathetic people who obviously can't fight with someone who can defend themselves and they deserve to be tortured!!

Wow, so you openly admit that you fail to do any research, and instead go for what your emotions tell you rather then any kind of logical analysis of the situation. Guess what? Your emotions and opinion is absolutely worthless unless you actually try to get as much as the story as possible, rather then just a knee-jerk reaction. You deliberately misinform yourself so that you can feel that you're in the right. You don't have a right to call the police pathetic when you act like that.

Yes i know i should have read the article but i am a wimp when it comes to things like this, but i have read other comments and yes i totally agree that i should have had some information before commenting. I am not the sort of person that thinks i am always right but i do have an opinion and my opinion is that people who commit animal cruelty are pathetic but also if there is a danger then yes the dog should be put down!


I'm sorry if my post pissed you off. Next time i will do my research.

 

[Lord Of Cyberia]

Looks like those cops are about to become the latest Anonymous bait. They are so dead. And who among them was dumb enough to record this then put it online? Talk about wearing wet copper armor in a lightning storm.

 

[xc00l n3rdx]

I haven't watched the videos or read the article because I don't want to see it, but I still think this is disgusting!! Animal cruelty is one of the worst things to ever happen! How can someone do it??? I mean when I look at a dog or any other animal I just melt and want to cuddle it!! These are just pathetic people who obviously can't fight with someone who can defend themselves and they deserve to be tortured!!

Dear God... What the hell is wrong with you?

Bleeding heart "animals are more important than people" bullshit and "police are teh evulz!" mentalities are bad enough separate.

Heres somethin' for ya:
I would gladly strangle five stray dogs to death with my bare hands to save one measly human.

So you have taken everything i have said completely wrong!

I never said animals were more important than humans! Yes i would prefer a human life over an animals life! I don't think all police are pathetic!

I didn't do my research on this topic before commenting and i know this was wrong so i have read comments and yes saying these police officers should be tortured was too far.

My point wasn't that there should be no humans and the world should be run by animals it was just to say that i disagree with animal cruelty because it just isn't right to do that to something that can't defend itself. But if there was a chance of somebody getting harmed or somebody has been harmed then i do agree that the animal should be put down.

 

[Plurralbles]

since whenare cops supposed to be dog-catching?

You have an elected guy do that in most places.

Due to lack of sound I dont' know what hte cops were saying and htey had to be in communication the whole time, surely.

One less dog who does't have a responsible owner in teh world is a great thing.

 

[loc978]

From watching both videos and then reading the article in the Hannibal Courier-post... I'm now certain the officers involved were in the wrong, as was the woman who called in a complaint about the dog. Clearly that was a domesticated animal chained to a trailer and unable to reach the roadway. Walk down the street in a residential neighborhood in any US city and you'll have dogs barking and growling at you from chains or behind fences. Dogs do that, they're territorial. If the woman who called in the complaint doesn't know this, then she obviously doesn't walk down many streets.
As for how the officers handled the dog when they came in response to the call... why didn't they call animal control to take in the dog..? Or at least have the owner help them take her away. They obviously had no idea how to handle a frightened animal, and resorted to shooting her when she wouldn't stop resisting... even though they had her immobilized and helpless at the time. I have no problem with putting down vicious animals, in fact I'm usually opposed to animal right types... but this was just a case of gross negligence on the part of law enforcement. Those officers should be punished.

 

[Rofl-Mayo]

My heart ripped when they shot him, but if the dog was evil then they had no other choice.

It was a stray. They could have tranqed it, they didn't need to shoot it.

If it was a stray, then why was it chained to a car and how can´t a stray dog be evil, the dog might even have bit a kid, you don´t and can´t know.

It wasn't acting aggressive at all, and it definitely didn't look rabid. They didn't NEED to shoot it. They could have tranqed him like I said before, and yeah it slipped my mind that it was on a chain, but stray or owned, it didn't need to be shot.

 

[Billy3B]

What I'm curious about is why cop 2 didn't at least try the Taser. It was in his hand the entire time. He even tried duel-weilding it with his firearm. Yet they never thought "hey maybe this will work"

THe sad truth is these guys were not trained in handling dogs. That is why they shot it.

 

[bad rider]

The dog was not acting fine with the collar on. It was trying to attack, and it was trying to escape. Rabies is not the only reason to shoot a dog. This was a bad outcome, but I don't see anything here that is completely out-of-line. Anything more than a slap on the wrist for something like this is excessive.

Did we watch the same video? Exactly when did the dog try to attack?

As for trying to escape, it was a loose dog being handled by a stranger, how do you expect it to act?

At 4:54, then he's off camera for about 8 seconds, then again at 5:05, then he's off camera for another 7 seconds.

Those are two obvious (to anyone who's been around dogs a lot) signs of extreme aggression in about 30 seconds, and there's no telling what was going on off camera during the time in-between. But it looked like whatever was going on, the officer was having a hell of a time controlling the animal while we couldn't see him.

He also tried to get at them at 1:15, and would have if it weren't for the chain around his neck.

These animals are big, and they are strong. Most animal control personnel use two collars for a dog that big. This officer was obviously unfamiliar with the equipment, and he only had one. I guarantee you'd be shitting your pants if you were in his shoes.

And besides, best case scenario, the dog gets taken to a shelter. Do you know what happens at shelters? Dogs get assessed for aggressive behavior. If they're deemed to be aggressive (as this dog with an abusive owner probably would be), they're put down. If they're not deemed to be aggressive, they're put up for adoption. If they're not adopted within a certain time period (this adult male of an aggressive breed... unlikely), they're put down. This dog was almost certain to be dead within 72 hours of this video being taken anyway.

If they'd shot him and laughed as he hobbled around, I'd understand the outrage. If they'd intentionally caused him prolonged pain, fine. If they'd made no attempt to subdue the dog before shooting him, I might get that, too. I just don't get all the anger over this. Badly handled situation, but not cruelty by any stretch of the imagination.

At the times at which the officer approaches the dog, it becomes aggressive, so maybe my choice of words was not the best. You state "it was trying to attack", which it did, and out of context that is very emotive language you use to make a persuasive argument. Let's put it in context, at 4:50 ish, the dog is, once again, cornered by the officer after trying to escape several times. This loose dog, obviously frightened (as is shown by it trying to escape) is cornered, so a loose frightened animal, cornered by a stranger, acts aggressively. Saying, "the dog was trying to attack" completely misrepresents the situation, the dog was acting on a last resort. Not unreasonable.

"the officer was having a hell of a time controlling the animal while we couldn't see him." No shit, at 4:47 the guy was trying to hook the dog one handed as though he was at a carnival with a rubber duck. Saying the guy was struggling while we couldn't see him is, two things: A) A complete assumption B) Likely, the guy had no idea what he was doing and he was dealing with a frightened loose animal, it was hardly going to just give up.

I've mentioned this, but so I don't seem like I'm picking and choosing. "He also tried to get at them at 1:15, and would have if it weren't for the chain around his neck."
The dog was scared and cornered, shock horror. It wasn't going for him anyway, watching the footage the dog doesn't charge straight at the officer the dog runs at the gap between the two officers. When my springer gets loose, which it does on occasion, it is very good at slipping past me using the exact same method.

Fortunately we are both in agreement that the officer shouldn't have been dealing with the situation, instead they should have been keeping the dog there and waiting for a professional. Was he under-equipped? Well looking at the video the dog, even when it had a gun to it, didn't have the energy to escape the pole used to restrain it. So he had the equipment necessary, he was just incompetent when it came to the situation.

As I've already said on this anyway, you can't justify shooting the dog because, it would go to the pound anyway. If you check the article, the owner clearly cares about the dog, " Even if his campaign to change the law in unsuccessful, Mays said the fight will be worth it.
?I don?t feel (Cammie) was vicious,? he said. ?I feel I stood up for her.?" so if it went to the pound it may have been saved before it was disposed of.

"(to anyone who's been around dogs a lot)" I've been brought up around dogs since I was born, so 19 years of personal experience. I've been to dog shows, I've talked with professional trainers, and my family (both mother and father) have worked in the veterinary industry, selling pharmaceuticals, dog food, running stands.
I'm not an expert by any means, but don't think I've only seen a picture of the damn things.
P.S Yes the "to anyone who's been around dogs a lot" comment is extremely patronising, don't think just making random assumptions about my background with dogs is going to aid your argument. This is one of the most patronising comments I've encountered on this forum.