Dog get's shot by police *WARNING* may upset alot of viewers.

[Sonic Doctor]

More videos on the internet? What stunning proof of the officer's inhumanity.

I saw a video of an alien the other day on the net. I guess aliens are real. Bug Foot, too.

But the second video shows the officers stroking the dog and walking up to it.

Yep, that dog is the worst dog ever and had to be shot /sarcasm.

I totally agree with Pirate Kitty. There is no proper context for this video. There is no sound, we can't hear what is going on, the dog was hidden from view before it was shot, so we don't know exactly what happened. A proper, respectful to all parties, well informed decision can't be made when there is barely half the evidence on the situation.

That latest video where the officers were petting the dog and it was acting fine, proves nothing. Because you base part of your decision on that video, tells me you know nothing about dogs.

Dogs can snap at a drop of a hat.

Example: When I was ten years old, I went on a trip to my Aunt and Uncle's place in Pennsylvania. They had two dogs. One of them was a white dog with black splotches called Cookie, he was a little smaller than the dog in the video. Cookie had never seen me before and of course was on edge for a hour or so, and then was fine and I played with him for the first day and a half. I must have sat on the couch there and pet that dog 10 or more times during that day and a half. Then during the night of the second day, I was sitting on the couch talking to my Aunt and petting Cookie. I finished talking and for a brief moment I looked down at him, he growled lunged up at me and nearly tore my shirt clean off. That dog was fine and nice one second and dangerous the next. I'm not talking playful biting, I'm talking about gnashing of teeth rip out your throat biting.

So just because the dog in that video was nice then, doesn't mean it can't be dangerous.

 

[Varanfan9]

I can't really decide if the cops where justified or not. For one the dog was clearly acting aggressive some what but on the other hand after he shot it the first time it was wagging its tail typically a sign of happiness or in this dog's situation submission. I would probably like to know more.

 

[Sparrow]

Well that is messed up. I hope we get some backstory to this sometime soon, and a follow-up to boot.

*saaa-nip*

Regardless, there are more humane ways to put animals down. We don't just shoot murders in the street.

 

[bad rider]

The officer was so afraid of the animal he couldn't deal with it properly, even when he eventually hooked the animal it was pulling him about. A twelve year old with a dog can keep a dog stationary on a lead. The officers obviously have little/no experience with animals, this then lead to the dog being shot. Why? Because it backed away from the guy trying to hook it with a long metal pole. What I don't understand is who sent someone so clearly inexperienced out instead of someone with experience with animals?

Little experience or no, a dog on a lead can still turn on you. I've helped train aggressive dogs. Trust me, some of the meanest dogs can seem very friendly or shy. Also, not knowing about how the animal would behave would of course make the officers cautious. I bet that dog was very aggressive in the past and the neighbors told them that. As I said before, when people call on cops for animal cases they are usually terrified of the animal. They want the animal shot.

Even if they sent out trained handlers, as I mentioned before, the inevitable stay at the pound would probably kill this dog anyway. They have a hard enough time getting friendly animals homes they aren't going to waste their time with a mean one.

True, dogs can turn on a lead. That's why there was that big metal pole, providing distance between the officer and the dog. However saying the pound would kill the dog is hardly justification for putting a bullet in it.

 

[Wewt]

I can't really decide if the cops where justified or not. For one the dog was clearly acting aggressive some what but on the other hand after he shot it the first time it was wagging its tail typically a sign of happiness or in this dog's situation submission. I would probably like to know more.

A wagging of a dogs tail can signal both sadness/anger or happiness depending on the which side it leans more into. (left or right, in the same order I think)

True, dogs can turn on a lead. That's why there was that big metal pole, providing distance between the officer and the dog. However saying the pound would kill the dog is hardly justification for putting a bullet in it.

In the news article it says that the dog broke free from the officers prior to the video, although I don't know if they used the pole there as well. I agree on that second part though.

 

[bad rider]

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As someone with a younger sister of about that age, I can confirm that you never want a dog like that near your child. Even if the dog is unlikely to be a threat, it's not worth risking a kid's life to just to give a potentially dangerous dog a chance. From the information I've heard I'm glad the dog was shot, so the residents of it's neighborhood can live in peace and safety.

As a man who owns a dog. I know people have a tendency to approach a dog assuming it's friendly. This is horrible thing to assume with an animal. So to hear the dog threatened her indicates to me the dog growled at her. If you feel all dogs that growl at strange people should be shot... words fail me to end that sentence, fair enough to say I would not hold a high opinion of you. So yes, lets also get rid of sharp objects, they can hurt children of about that age too.

 

[Zorg Machine]

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Actually, that would be a very good reason to put it down with prejudice. At the end of the day, a human life is more important than a dog's, especially one that kill people, and I would fully support an officer executing such an animal.

I also agree that this does not appear to be such an animal, though the cop's decision was likely based on the dog's reaction to being noosed and the fact that it wasn't licensed. It wasn't legally owned (dunno the specifics of the licensing laws there) and I think that there was an aspect of making an example of ignoring the law there, with the excuse that 'it was growling at a kid'.

So when you find a dog that doesn't take kindly to being noosed by a stranger and growls at people, you should just shoot it?
Why don't we just shoot them at birth because there is no way that more than 2% of all the dogs of the world would react differently.
My dog would probably be shot by this man and that is why I am upset about this.

 

[standokan]

My heart ripped when they shot him, but if the dog was evil then they had no other choice.

It was a stray. They could have tranqed it, they didn't need to shoot it.

If it was a stray, then why was it chained to a car and how can´t a stray dog be evil, the dog might even have bit a kid, you don´t and can´t know.

 

[ShaqLevick]

Alright, I'm a little upset about this little incident. Granted the dog may have been rabid and dangerous... But I'm wholly livid about the inadequacy of the police here, I mean the dog was restrained and it should have been no problem to remove it and have it put down at the pound. However, what really gets me is that these two grown ass men are such bad shots that they had to pin the dog down to shoot it. It was on a bloody leash, like shooting fish in a freakin barrel and he had to get within six inches to make an ineffective kill shot. I hate you fucking cops, not because you killed a dog, but because you're so fucking useless!

 

[Epic_Mushroom]

Considering it is chained up on a nearby car i highly doubt it.

Tell me: where was the dog prior to this? What is the dog's history? Who is the dog's owner? What were the police officers saying to one another?

Oh yeah, that's right, you don't know.

Informed opinions are the way to go. Regurgitating hate you found posted on the internet is a sure-fire way to live a misinformed life.

I could post a video of a serial rapist getting shot by police and leave the comment: 'homeless man offends cop - is shot dead' and, considering how quick everyone here is to blindly follow in suit, you'd believe it.

Silly.

Well then, here you go, spoilered due to length:

Spoiler

"The LaGrange Police Department is coming under fire from the community.
The video shows a LaGrange police officer shooting and killing a mixed-breed pit bull. According to police reports, the dog acted aggressive toward officers and a young child. But the owner is telling a different story.

"She was a big dog, she was playful, she liked to jump around. But she's never acted aggressively toward anybody," says the dog's owner Marcus Mays.

Mary Coleman says the dog attacked her six-year-old daughter.

"I hear a big dog growling and I turn around and it was running towards us. I shut my daughter behind me and I started to yell and kick at it," Coleman said.

It was late March when Coleman and her daughter were waiting for the bus. A dog wrestled out of its leash and came running at Coleman's daughter. Coleman was able to fight off the dog and go back to her trailer to call police.

"It followed me down here and it started acting real calm again. I got the chain around it and fed it some dog food. That might have been the trick, feeding it dog food," Coleman said.

According to the video, the dog looks calm as officers put a collar around its neck and only gets agitated when police use an animal restraint pole.

"These are the people that are protecting the town and they can't even load a dog up into the vehicle? Don't have enough sense to put the pet taxi on the ground," Mays said.

Now that the dog is gone, both Mays and Coleman are left wondering if killing the dog was the right thing to do.

"I felt really bad, I really did. I was like I didn't want them to kill it, I just wanted to get it away from here," Coleman said.

"She came down here and in her last moments she was terrified trying to get away and this is the spot they shot her at," Mays said.

The La Grange Police Department says they cannot comment because the case is under investigation. Mays was cited for having a vicious animal. He pleaded not guilty and his case is expected to go to trail on June 17."

This is the description of the only video response to the vid on youtube, though the aforegiven link, seen here [http://www.hannibal.net/news/x1600620381/LaGrange-dog-owner-vows-to-fight-for-law-changes] seems to give a somewhat less biased view on the matter. Based on that, I'd say that they were overreacting, though of course you're free to disagree. I'd say that tranquillizer would have done the trick or actual animal handlers should probably have been present, but maybe that's just me. I agree on your point of objectivity, but do you honestly think your excessive sarcasm helps your cause? I agree with you in principle, not in means.

Rapists deserve to be murdered. They forfeit their right to life.

And the ones who are later found to be innocent either due to bad/lazy policing, over reliance on fallible tech or sadly pure malice on the part of the 'victim' (it does seem to happen with a regularity) ?

What about statutory rape (wether it be 2 15 year olds or an underage female who represents herself as over Age of Consent) ? Or my personal favourite in this country which is the right of a female to claim post-sex rape as she felt she was too drunk to make a decision well?

You think too much. If we have to kill 100 innocents to make sure 1 guilty man is put to death for a crime that is in no way related to the taking of a human life [!], then that is the risk of living in a logical and civilized society.

Doesn't sound terribly logical, let alone civilized, to me.

 

[Rutskarn]

Use a tranquilizer or something... Like, come on.

That's not standard gear--and besides, tranquilizers don't really work that way. You'd need a professional on-hand to measure out an appropriate dose, plus you'd need a launching mechanism. Not things they're likely to have on hand.

 

[bad rider]

I can't really decide if the cops where justified or not. For one the dog was clearly acting aggressive some what but on the other hand after he shot it the first time it was wagging its tail typically a sign of happiness or in this dog's situation submission. I would probably like to know more.

A wagging of a dogs tail can signal both sadness/anger or happiness depending on the which side it leans more into. (left or right, in the same order I think)

True, dogs can turn on a lead. That's why there was that big metal pole, providing distance between the officer and the dog. However saying the pound would kill the dog is hardly justification for putting a bullet in it.

In the news article it says that the dog broke free from the officers prior to the video, although I don't know if they used the pole there as well. I agree on that second part though.

I assume you are referring to this quote:

"Howell testified that the dog growled as he tried to load it into a truck, that it later broke free from a chain tied to the vehicle and eventually charged as he tried to capture it with a six-foot catchpole." This is shown on the video as the dog struggles to flee from the officers and "broke free from a chain." Lets face it that dog was just trying to run from the officers. It was held by a chain someone had tied to it, watching the video it seems to suggest a rather different picture than the article. The article says breaks free of a chain, which to me suggests an image of a dog breaking an actual chain. Realistically the dog probably just slipped free, or broke the connection on the collar. However to come back to what you first said. I don't think the dog broke free outside the video, I believe the video contains the great escape.

 

[Shock and Awe]

Based solely on this video(we don't know the whole story) the officer made a bad decision, the dog seemed to be under control. That being said it could have been reportedly been rabid, maybe it had bit someone, it may be policy not to risk injury to yourself to take in a dog that probably would have been put down regardless. There is no reason the officers should lose there jobs over a fucking dog.

 

[JoJo]

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As someone with a younger sister of about that age, I can confirm that you never want a dog like that near your child. Even if the dog is unlikely to be a threat, it's not worth risking a kid's life to just to give a potentially dangerous dog a chance. From the information I've heard I'm glad the dog was shot, so the residents of it's neighborhood can live in peace and safety.

As a man who owns a dog. I know people have a tendency to approach a dog assuming it's friendly. This is horrible thing to assume with an animal. So to hear the dog threatened her indicates to me the dog growled at her. If you feel all dogs that growl at strange people should be shot... words fail me to end that sentence, fair enough to say I would not hold a high opinion of you. So yes, lets also get rid of sharp objects, they can hurt children of about that age too.

As a matter of fact, yes, I do think that all dogs that even pose the slightest risk to humans should be destroyed. At the end of the day a dog is a luxury and if it's owners can't keep it under control then it shouldn't be allowed to exist. The dog in this video was possibly a threat, so it had to go. Put simply, I'd rather sacrifice 1000 dogs than let one child be killed by a rabid dog.

 

[xc00l n3rdx]

I haven't watched the videos or read the article because I don't want to see it, but I still think this is disgusting!! Animal cruelty is one of the worst things to ever happen! How can someone do it??? I mean when I look at a dog or any other animal I just melt and want to cuddle it!! These are just pathetic people who obviously can't fight with someone who can defend themselves and they deserve to be tortured!!

 

[Nocturnal Gentleman]

Use a tranquilizer or something... Like, come on.

That's not standard gear--and besides, tranquilizers don't really work that way. You'd need a professional on-hand to measure out an appropriate dose, plus you'd need a launching mechanism. Not things they're likely to have on hand.

Yeah, people forget that a tranquilizer at too high a dosage can kill. Too low a dosage is just annoying. The amount between the two extreme results is not much at all.

 

[ExplosionProofTaco]

All around the world. Police Officers shoot civilians, sometimes accidentally and nobody seems to care.

But the second a dog gets shot by an officer everyone is like: 'OMG! THIS IS SOOOO LIKE POLICE BROOTALITY!'.

This shit happens all the time. Get over it.

 

[SilverUchiha]

Glad to see the forum is not jumping to conclusions here. /sarcasm

For all we know that dog was rabid and had killed a child in the neighborhood.

Why on probation for this? I don't see what's wrong with it.

OT: It's terrible that they did that, but I agree that we may not have the full story. If the dog was rabid or something where they couldn't safely catch it, then its slightly more understandable (only slightly). However, I personally think the guy who had the dog on the pole-thing was just a wuss and was telling his partner to shoot. Seriously, did you see that dog practically dragging him around? Surely they had someone better for the job than that guy.

 

[Nocturnal Gentleman]

True, dogs can turn on a lead. That's why there was that big metal pole, providing distance between the officer and the dog. However saying the pound would kill the dog is hardly justification for putting a bullet in it.

I'm not saying killing the seemingly dangerous animal on scene is the best decision ever. I'm just bringing up the pound result because people keep acting like if the dog was handled off the scene that automatically makes it safe. In many cases it would just be put down later.

 

[Wewt]

I assume you are referring to this quote:

"Howell testified that the dog growled as he tried to load it into a truck, that it later broke free from a chain tied to the vehicle and eventually charged as he tried to capture it with a six-foot catchpole." This is shown on the video as the dog struggles to flee from the officers and "broke free from a chain." Lets face it that dog was just trying to run from the officers. It was held by a chain someone had tied to it, watching the video it seems to suggest a rather different picture than the article. The article says breaks free of a chain, which to me suggests an image of a dog breaking an actual chain. Realistically the dog probably just slipped free, or broke the connection on the collar.

Apparently it also ''charged'' them, which does imply aggression. The article is almost as vague as the video, though.

However to come back to what you first said. I don't think the dog broke free outside the video, I believe the video contains the great escape.

My bad on that one