Dog get's shot by police *WARNING* may upset alot of viewers.

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I never understood why people get upset when an animal like a dog gets killed, especially one they have never seen before.

Dogs are killing machines, they have teeth capable of tearing flesh, are quite strong and fast, and can carry many diseases harmful or deadly to humans.

The officers made the right call here.
 

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Okay everyone; let's not jump to conclusions here. This is one video, without much if any context; the real story could be either way. Personally, I don't think that the dog would have been a threat, but that video really didn't tell us anything about the situation those police men were in.
 

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xc00l n3rdx said:
I haven't watched the videos or read the article because I don't want to see it, but I still think this is disgusting!! Animal cruelty is one of the worst things to ever happen! How can someone do it??? I mean when I look at a dog or any other animal I just melt and want to cuddle it!! These are just pathetic people who obviously can't fight with someone who can defend themselves and they deserve to be tortured!!
I laughed longer than I should have. By that I mean I assume your point wasn't to make a reader laugh at all.
 

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They couldn't get the dog under control by waving sticks in its face, so they shot it. From the looks of the video, they didn't even try to positively get along with the dog, they just tried to manhandle it into submission, which is hardly ever going to be effective. Having failed to force the poor, frightened animal into accepting the strict, mean lashings of a complete stranger, they decided it was easy, more "humane" to put it down. Disgusting.

PETA are similar (though not quite this bad) which is why I had them too. I love animals and I love to see them treated fairly, which is not, as far as I've seen, how PETA operates. Not to mention their unnecessarily staunch position which serves no purpose other than to reinforce the negative 'animal loving hippy' stereotype.
 

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JoJoDeathunter said:
bad rider said:
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As someone with a younger sister of about that age, I can confirm that you never want a dog like that near your child. Even if the dog is unlikely to be a threat, it's not worth risking a kid's life to just to give a potentially dangerous dog a chance. From the information I've heard I'm glad the dog was shot, so the residents of it's neighborhood can live in peace and safety.
As a man who owns a dog. I know people have a tendency to approach a dog assuming it's friendly. This is horrible thing to assume with an animal. So to hear the dog threatened her indicates to me the dog growled at her. If you feel all dogs that growl at strange people should be shot... words fail me to end that sentence, fair enough to say I would not hold a high opinion of you. So yes, lets also get rid of sharp objects, they can hurt children of about that age too.
As a matter of fact, yes, I do think that all dogs that even pose the slightest risk to humans should be destroyed. At the end of the day a dog is a luxury and if it's owners can't keep it under control then it shouldn't be allowed to exist. The dog in this video was possibly a threat, so it had to go. Put simply, I'd rather sacrifice 1000 dogs than let one child be killed by a rabid dog.
In that case lets start some genocide, I'll round up all dogs. Hey, they are all free thinking and therefore can be in a bad mood where they can potentially harm humans. So I'll start here in England, you start where your at, and we'll meet somewhere in Chicago at weeks end. First rounds on me, we'll go get slaughtered after down at a bar and spend the rest of the time high fiveing each other now we've made the world a little safer. Death to all dogs!!!!
 

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Kukakkau said:
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Also BIG note - the rotund officer is holding a STUN gun the whole time - a weapon designed to incap a human briefly that could have easily subdued a dog
... which stopped being an option the instant his partner was connected to the dog by a big METAL pole
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Did you watch the video at all? Any idiot can see the dog is clearly not rabid.
Oh, great, you're a veterinarian! Well, then that's it: The definitive word on his infection status!

OT: Narrow shot. No sound. No context.

Dog is clearly trying to get at the officer with the collar.

Police were called, rather than animal control, indicating there was some sort of incident prior to this. Dog is tied up with a chain.

I'm not going to assume animal cruelty here. For all we know, this dog bit someone in a high risk location and was going to be killed so his brain could be examined for evidence of rabies anyway.

That being said, I can't say definitively that it was not unwarranted, either. There's just too little information here, but I'm inclined to give these officers a pass.

Edit: After reading the article about the incident, I'm pretty sure he wasn't rabid, but I still give them a pass.
Yes because heaven forbid the officer says "okay the needles are in, let go and I'll turn it on" - just because video has no sound doesn't mean they can't talk

Also second video in OP shows the dog acting fine around people and letting them pet it

Why should they get a pass for shooting a non-rabid dog - that from what I've read - it's biggest offense was barking at people?
It'd still have a big metal pole hanging from its neck, so electric current still wouldn't be advisable. Letting go of the pole makes its motion completely unpredictable, and it's metal. Do you know what would happen if you ran electrical current intended for a human through an animal that had a big, mobile, metal pole around it's neck? Odds are neither did they.

Cops, firemen, EMTs, soldiers, and others have really hard jobs where they have to make split-second decisions all the time that can mean the difference between someone getting hurt or killed and coming away safely. It's really easy for people aren't in that position to whine and complain about their decisions after the fact.

The dog was not acting fine with the collar on. It was trying to attack, and it was trying to escape. Rabies is not the only reason to shoot a dog. This was a bad outcome, but I don't see anything here that is completely out-of-line. Anything more than a slap on the wrist for something like this is excessive.

The fact that the cops were there at all, rather than animal control, indicates that this was either already a really tense situation (i.e. more than "just barking at someone"), or this community has a shortage of public servants in general anyway. Shooting an animal who, along with his owner, had been a problem in the past isn't a reason to exacerbate that problem.
 

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If the cops deemed it necessary to kill the dog, I won't question them. Really, I'm not so mad that they shot the dog, I'm just sorry the first shot didn't kill it, and the dog had to writhe around. Nothing deserves to die slowly like that.
 

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Wewt said:
bad rider said:
I assume you are referring to this quote:

"Howell testified that the dog growled as he tried to load it into a truck, that it later broke free from a chain tied to the vehicle and eventually charged as he tried to capture it with a six-foot catchpole." This is shown on the video as the dog struggles to flee from the officers and "broke free from a chain." Lets face it that dog was just trying to run from the officers. It was held by a chain someone had tied to it, watching the video it seems to suggest a rather different picture than the article. The article says breaks free of a chain, which to me suggests an image of a dog breaking an actual chain. Realistically the dog probably just slipped free, or broke the connection on the collar.
Apparently it also ''charged'' them, which does imply aggression. The article is almost as vague as the video, though.


However to come back to what you first said. I don't think the dog broke free outside the video, I believe the video contains the great escape.
My bad on that one
Again the article appears to be at odds with the video, the dog does "charge" but away from the cop trying to run past running from the officer. This seems like very reasonable behaviour for a loose dog when interacting with a stranger. This is on the video and the terminology in the article is incredibly bias, either that or this is based off the officers statement which backs my opinion that the guy had no idea how to interact with an animal. This guy probably got a call of a wild dog, believed it whole heartedly, then treated the dogs every action as that of a hostile animal, instead of an animal that had got, put simply, got loose.
 

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bad rider said:
JoJoDeathunter said:
bad rider said:
JoJoDeathunter said:
bad rider said:
As someone with a younger sister of about that age, I can confirm that you never want a dog like that near your child. Even if the dog is unlikely to be a threat, it's not worth risking a kid's life to just to give a potentially dangerous dog a chance. From the information I've heard I'm glad the dog was shot, so the residents of it's neighborhood can live in peace and safety.
As a man who owns a dog. I know people have a tendency to approach a dog assuming it's friendly. This is horrible thing to assume with an animal. So to hear the dog threatened her indicates to me the dog growled at her. If you feel all dogs that growl at strange people should be shot... words fail me to end that sentence, fair enough to say I would not hold a high opinion of you. So yes, lets also get rid of sharp objects, they can hurt children of about that age too.
As a matter of fact, yes, I do think that all dogs that even pose the slightest risk to humans should be destroyed. At the end of the day a dog is a luxury and if it's owners can't keep it under control then it shouldn't be allowed to exist. The dog in this video was possibly a threat, so it had to go. Put simply, I'd rather sacrifice 1000 dogs than let one child be killed by a rabid dog.
In that case lets start some genocide, I'll round up all dogs. Hey, they are all free thinking and therefore can be in a bad mood where they can potentially harm humans. So I'll start here in England, you start where your at, and we'll meet somewhere in Chicago at weeks end. First rounds on me, we'll go get slaughtered after down at a bar and spend the rest of the time high fiveing each other now we've made the world a little safer. Death to all dogs!!!!
To be honest I wouldn't give a monkey's ass if every dog in the world died tomorrow. I find it impossible to care for any creature other than human.
 

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True, dogs can turn on a lead. That's why there was that big metal pole, providing distance between the officer and the dog. However saying the pound would kill the dog is hardly justification for putting a bullet in it.
I'm not saying killing the seemingly dangerous animal on scene is the best decision ever. I'm just bringing up the pound result because people keep acting like if the dog was handled off the scene that automatically makes it safe. In many cases it would just be put down later.
Fair enough. As long as we are agreed he shouldn't have shot the dog, you could say the nature of the event is mitigated by the fact it would end badly for the dog one way or another. That said, (and I think we are agreed on this) I can't stress enough that it is in no way justifiable to just shoot the dog on the scene like that.
 

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JoJoDeathunter said:
bad rider said:
JoJoDeathunter said:
bad rider said:
JoJoDeathunter said:
bad rider said:
As someone with a younger sister of about that age, I can confirm that you never want a dog like that near your child. Even if the dog is unlikely to be a threat, it's not worth risking a kid's life to just to give a potentially dangerous dog a chance. From the information I've heard I'm glad the dog was shot, so the residents of it's neighborhood can live in peace and safety.
As a man who owns a dog. I know people have a tendency to approach a dog assuming it's friendly. This is horrible thing to assume with an animal. So to hear the dog threatened her indicates to me the dog growled at her. If you feel all dogs that growl at strange people should be shot... words fail me to end that sentence, fair enough to say I would not hold a high opinion of you. So yes, lets also get rid of sharp objects, they can hurt children of about that age too.
As a matter of fact, yes, I do think that all dogs that even pose the slightest risk to humans should be destroyed. At the end of the day a dog is a luxury and if it's owners can't keep it under control then it shouldn't be allowed to exist. The dog in this video was possibly a threat, so it had to go. Put simply, I'd rather sacrifice 1000 dogs than let one child be killed by a rabid dog.
In that case lets start some genocide, I'll round up all dogs. Hey, they are all free thinking and therefore can be in a bad mood where they can potentially harm humans. So I'll start here in England, you start where your at, and we'll meet somewhere in Chicago at weeks end. First rounds on me, we'll go get slaughtered after down at a bar and spend the rest of the time high fiveing each other now we've made the world a little safer. Death to all dogs!!!!
To be honest I wouldn't give a monkey's ass if every dog in the world died tomorrow. I find it impossible to care for any creature other than human.
Well then, you are a cold heartless bastard and here are some kittens for you to stare angrily at.


PS In all honesty I hope that statement is either a rash one made in the heat of the moment, or a joke I'm too simple to understand.
 

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I choose merely to shrug.

There are many many cases where the cops have to shoot dogs. This was not one but if I complained it would contribute to this Disney Land animal mentality people have. The kind of thing that gets cops forbidden from taking steps they have to occasionally take. I defend a cop's right to shoot a dog more than I defend your right to keep you out of control retard mutt running around. Maybe you don't live near the kind of people who have killer pitbulls intentionally trained to be evil fucks but I do.

Besides, I like my dog. Everyone else's dog is a misbehaved mongroloid.
 

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The dog was not acting fine with the collar on. It was trying to attack, and it was trying to escape. Rabies is not the only reason to shoot a dog. This was a bad outcome, but I don't see anything here that is completely out-of-line. Anything more than a slap on the wrist for something like this is excessive.
Did we watch the same video? Exactly when did the dog try to attack?

As for trying to escape, it was a loose dog being handled by a stranger, how do you expect it to act?
 

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mr_rubino said:
xc00l n3rdx said:
I haven't watched the videos or read the article because I don't want to see it, but I still think this is disgusting!! Animal cruelty is one of the worst things to ever happen! How can someone do it??? I mean when I look at a dog or any other animal I just melt and want to cuddle it!! These are just pathetic people who obviously can't fight with someone who can defend themselves and they deserve to be tortured!!
I laughed longer than I should have. By that I mean I assume your point wasn't to make a reader laugh at all.
Well that all depends on what part you laughed at. If it was all of it then no you was not meant to laugh!
 

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They had the dog under control before they shot it, there was absolutely no need. If a court decides that the animal does need to be killed it should have been done the proper way (painlessly) through an Anaesthetic overdose at a qualified practice.

Honestly, who gives a shit if the animal runs up and bites the officer? I have had a border collie run up to me in a field and latch onto my leg. It took me at least 20 seconds to pull it off me (i.e. not mortally wounding it in the process), leaving me with a fairly deep cut. I went to get it checked out for infection and that was that. If a 17 year old kid can deal with it then so should a police officer. Really, man up, you fucking moron.

People need to start showing respect for animals.
 

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bad rider said:
I would be lying if I said I felt something when I watched the video of the dog being shot, I felt nothing. This may seem "cold" or "heartless" to you, but then from my perpective it seems just as bad to me that you didn't care about that little girl being threatened by the dog. The article apparently said that the dog charged at the child, in which case it deserves to put down straight away. To me the idea that the child could be in danger seems too terrible to imagine doing anything else other than removing that danger.
 

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Was it rabid? If not or did not pose a threat they had no right to shoot it for it was not breaking the rule of clear and present danger.
 

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xc00l n3rdx said:
mr_rubino said:
xc00l n3rdx said:
I haven't watched the videos or read the article because I don't want to see it, but I still think this is disgusting!! Animal cruelty is one of the worst things to ever happen! How can someone do it??? I mean when I look at a dog or any other animal I just melt and want to cuddle it!! These are just pathetic people who obviously can't fight with someone who can defend themselves and they deserve to be tortured!!
I laughed longer than I should have. By that I mean I assume your point wasn't to make a reader laugh at all.
Well that all depends on what part you laughed at. If it was all of it then no you was not meant to laugh!
Saying the police officers deserve to be tortured for shooting a dog is laughable. You're spewing hate on a situation over which you're completely ignorant of the circumstances.

I don't think the police are to be totally blamed. If anything, it's the owner.