Don't claim to be what you're not.

[omega 616]

To round this post off. Kimbo Slice made his name by beating up bouncers and people who think they could fight on youtube, he destroyed them all. Kimbo then went on TUF (the ultimate fighter) trained his nuts off then lost a fight to a really fat veteran of cage fighting. So even the most out of shape fighter can still fight.

I think the Kimbo fight with Seth Petruzelli was one of the quickest matches I've seen in my life... I think it was about 12-15 seconds long.

Fastest ever knockout in a cage is 8 seconds, I have seen a 9 second knockout aswell. Can't remember who though.

To round this post off. Kimbo Slice made his name by beating up bouncers and people who think they could fight on youtube, he destroyed them all. Kimbo then went on TUF (the ultimate fighter) trained his nuts off then lost a fight to a really fat veteran of cage fighting. So even the most out of shape fighter can still fight.

Kimbo had a few matches against below par fighters in EliteXC, EliteXc built themselves around Kimbo then, I think, in fight he got knocked out by a guy who looked 2 weight classes smaller than him. EliteXC then fell through.

Name a bad match up? Nick Diaz (BJJ guy) VS Robbie Lawler (striker), Nick won by knock out. I am also pretty sure pro boxers have fought cage fighters in a cage with mixed results.

Spoiler: Kimbo vs Seth

 

[Fetzenfisch]

A fighting military, ready and prepared, protects countries (Especially wealthy ones) simply by being a deterrent. The fact that it's there, and ready, is enough. The idea that a fighting military isn't necessary (Which, by the way, is exactly what you're implying), and that we'd be fine without one is naive at best.

Sad but true. But i still don't see that those people deserve anything else than the money they get to do their job. They enlist in free will and choose a career as a soldier, fine. If they're happy with that, we do need a military. As do we need plumbers. Both have to deal with a lot of shit, but no-one forces them. So stop whining you wannabe heroes.Its your choice to risk you butt for bucks.
People who volunteer in youth centres or in a auxiliary fire brigade serve their country. And i do respect them.
A soldier might think he does a great deed, thats what they want them to, because if they wouldnt no one with the mental ability to read would think its a good idea to get killed for a little cash or to bomb their way through foreign villages.
They get peoples blood on their hands, someone has to that in this world. but i never understood how you can do that an be proud of being a killer. of civil men, women and children perhaps, if you think of all the collateral damage.
More and more of our soldiers are send back in coffins, but i would never waste a tear about them. Why? Because its a risk they took on free will and that is part of their job.
My brother was an officer. Well i didnt respect him more because of that. And i told him that he's an idiot to go to afghanistan.
So i'd rather juggle chainsaws than to join that club.

 

[Assassin Xaero]

Also, people who wear MMA shirts but can't fight.

Ok, that one is just stupid. That is like saying you can't wear a sport shirt if you don't play that sport. I highly doubt that everyone that has a basketball, baseball, football, etc. shirt can play those sports.

As for the dogtag thing, I do have my dad's dogtag. I was thinking of wearing it out of respect for him, but saying you have to serve to wear them is pretty stupid too, especially when I believe that every war after WWII was completely stupid for the US to be in.

But what annoys me is people that listen to nu metal going around saying they are metal heads and act like they know every metal band out there.

 

[ironm4id3n]

That's right they can't!
It should be just as mandatory to learn to play music as it is to learn a second language

 

[Doitpow]

I have no respect for people in the military. I respect people who pretend to be in the military even less.

Really? how come...just intrested

May I ask why? Most soldiers are just regular people protecting what they believe in. (My uncle was a Rifleman, an I plan to be a Police officer)

I don't believe it to be in anyone's interest to have a standing army. I don't buy into the idea that war is inevitable or a fundamental part of the human condition. I disagree with both the reasons and methods for fighting 90% of wars, and I believe if these wars were not fought, the remaining 10% would not occur. While I believe that the majority of soldiers are brave, not cruel, but I don't believe the membership of an institution, any institution is a reason for respect. Respect is a personal feeling.

 

[Baby Tea]

But i still don't see that those people deserve anything else than the money they get to do their job. They enlist in free will and choose a career as a soldier, fine. If they're happy with that, we do need a military. As do we need plumbers. Both have to deal with a lot of shit, but no-one forces them. So stop whining you wannabe heroes.Its your choice to risk you butt for bucks.

The military deserves respect because they are the ones stepping up for protection of the country. Would you do it? Evidently not, since you just said you'd rather juggle chainsaws. Who else would do it? They deserve respect as much as a firefighter or a police officer, because they put their lives on the line for the sake of others, and to try and equate that with a plumber is just not right.

And they aren't proud of being 'killers'. Not at all. My grandfather fought in world war 2, and even in that supposedly just war, where the enemy was easy to point out, he would never say he was 'proud' to have killed anyone. But he was happy to have protected and saved the lives of the Jews he hid, and the allied soldiers who faced an under-stocked German force thanks to my grandfather and others like him raiding and ambushing convoys. The killing isn't anything to be proud of, it's the protecting of your countrymen, it's the service to your country.

 

[William Dickbringer]

Scene kids wearing Cradle of Filth shirts make me grin a little, especially when they fail to recognise a Cradle song if it comes on.

The only falsifying that actually angers me is people online who think they're emotionally unbalanced and ultra violent people who are barely kept from lashing out at others by what we humans call 'social restraint'. There's something about that degree of nihilistic self aggrandisement that sets my teeth on edge, I don't have time to dig that picture out but you know the kind I mean...

EDIT: People who think that others behaving in the socially 'normal' manner are automatically mindless sheep. Like that t-shirt, 'you laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at you because you are all the same'. No, they laugh at you because you're a man wearing make-up and you're wearing trousers covered in zips that look like sails. I love metal and used to dig the Gothic look but seriously, most 'alternative' fashion is hilarious.

You just summed up every point i was going to write. Thank you. The Internet psycho and the elitist metal heads are the most annoying people i meet in day to day life.

what are metal elitists? are those the people who think metal is the ultimate genre of music and anything else sucks sorry if this was a stupid question

O.T. the people who say they can knock anyone out

 

[CruelSpider]

Well, I'd have to agree witht OP's well...original post.
People who wear things that represent something they're not bug me as well.
You're an imposter and aren't doing the real people justice.

 

[Marter]

I've stopped being bugged by the small things. It's easer to just accept that people will do things like this and just move on.

 

[General Ken8]

I definitely agree with the dog tag thing, that's just a stupid fad that probably started because everyone thought "Oh, it's so badass to wear these military identity tags, maybe I'll finally hit puberty if I wear them and act like a douche 24/7."
But if you are in the military and wear them, it actually makes a little sense

 

[Nigh Invulnerable]

Bums? what are you talking about?... ho I see, the same arguement I hear from most traditional MA's... "it's just a bunch of idiots thrown into a cage", no it's not... a lot of effort goes into our training, the fighting is a lot more complex then most people think, sure it doesn't look all flashy but that doesn't mean it's not hard work or nothings going on.

No need to be offended man. Keep it cool.

I don't think the people are idiots, I just think martial arts don't mix well which makes the idea of mixed martial arts tournament pretty silly in my opinion. I respect most of the traditional arts that are involved like Jiu-jitsu and karate and such, but if mixed and presented in this format most of the skill of the single sports is removed. It's so unbalanced because there are so many different techniques, styles out there. Almost every match is a complete missmatch. If they'd focus on ground moves in itself then you'd have a lot more refined sport. If they'd focus on striking only, you'd have a lot more of a refined sport.

If you have this terrific, karate striker and he gets taken down by a grappler, the match is essentially over after 2 minutes of wrestling on the ground. It just doesn't make for a good mix. The individual disciplines are much more polished and make for more skilled fighting.

I think it's flashy. It makes for good viewing. But if you'd take the top guy and pit him against the world's leading wrestler or against the world's leading boxer, he'd get dismatled because the guys practicing individual sports have a much more refined set of skills.

While I understand your point, watching people trained in a specific style of fighting go at it is usually quite entertaining, I disagree that MMA is a bad mix. It's more a reflection of reality than the stylized matches between two karate experts. If someone attacked me, in a real situation, I wouldn't care about technique or whatnot, I'd be going straight for the groin, eyes, etc. to take him out ASAP. Those moves aren't allowed in most MMA events, but it is a more realistic scenario between a couple fighters.

 

[KimberlyGoreHound]

Totally agree - many people like to pretend their a sociopath or something, talking about how they would 'totally stab someone if they did that'. But what about someone currently in a psychiatric hospital for diagnosed psychopathy?

What pisses me off is when people wear a band shirt/other merchandaise when they don't actually KNOW the band's material. For example, I listen to a bit of Tool, but I wouldn't wear a Tool shirt (passed one at Value Village) because if someone walked up to me and asked me their favourite album, I wouldn't know my ass from 10,000 Days. On the other hand, if I'm wearing my Metallica shirt, or my Pantera backpack, I could go on and on comparing each album and song.

In short: If you're going to wear a band's merchandaise, you should know their music well enough to carry out a conversation about it. Knowing everything isn't necessary, but if you can't talk about them for five minutes, you shouldn't wear their stuff.

Well the absolute apex of unintended ironic humour is when you read people saying they'd totally murder a psychopathic murderer. Obviously a genuine mental condition is serious business, I don't hate people with actual mental conditions. But people suffering from 'sociopathy', 'lack of morals' and 'disillusionment with humanity' are most frequently actually suffering from 'adolescence'.

Bands...ok, I've got quite a bit of band merchandise from gigs but I do own two shirts from bands I don't listen to. I bought the Dragonforce one because I was sweaty and it was a fiver (hot day and open air music in the park...you want to be fresh) and the BFMV one I bought because I liked their latest album a lot and it was a fiver again. I generally don't mind people wearing shirts they don't 'get' but it's disappointing, you get into a conversation with someone who just isn't interested, it's a kind of bait and switch.

Yeah, when someone says they would kill someone like Ted Bundy, it's hilarious to see their hypocrisy. I know from experience that genuine mental conditions are nothing at which to laugh, and also that diagnoses such as sociopathy are not handed out easily. Your average adolescent may fit some of the criteria, but trust me - to be diagnosed as such by a real psychiatrist means you're seriously fucked. I would know.

That leads me to my next rant: people who self diagnose themselves with various conditions such as Schizoid Personality Disorder, OCD, Schizophrenia, etc. Self diagnosis is silly and unreliable, and 95% of the time - wrong.

Buying a fresh shirt for a fiver just so you don't smell like body odour is perfectly forgivable, and as long as you could talk about the recent album of the one band, it's not TOO bad. I've seen some people who not only wear the shirts, but claim to be huge fans of the band, but can't answer simple questions (ie: a kid claiming to love Metallica being unable to name their favourite bassist). Way too common, and terribly irritating.

 

[Seydaman]

I may just be mean but these things bug me. First, people who wear dog tags but have never served. If you're going to wear them, at least know their purpose please. (For anybody who doesn't know, they are used for the identification of dead remains that would be otherwise unknown). Also, if you are a military spouse you are NOT part of the military. Yeah, I realize it's difficult and all and I do commend them for what they do but they did NOT enlist (or become an officer), have not gone through the training and are not risking their lives for their country. Don't claim to be what you are not.

I have no respect for people in the military. I respect people who pretend to be in the military even less.

You have no respect for people who risk their lives to protect your ass?
Dumbass
Dick
I can't think of an accurate term here.

You do realize that unless you live in some total shithole (I.e, pretty much any country that's actively in a real war, civil or otherwise... Although I suppose it doesn't necessarily apply in case of civil war either), military does very little to "protect your ass". Your local police department, your local fire department, your local paramedics and surgeons, they do a hell of a lot more to "protect your ass".

Mindless respect of anything is just wrong.

Here in Canada, do you think I care about a handful of soldiers in Middle East? It wasn't so much a Canadian war in the first place, and while I can understand the potential preventative measures to it, they're doing it wrong.

Occupying a country and trying to westernize it is a bad use of resources. You either kill 'em all, which would understandably go against a number of Geneva convention principles, or you stay out of it and only interfere if some real shit happens and leave soon after. You can't fix a situation like that by outside means, it has to be fixed from inside the country by the people who live there. Just marching in, taking the position of authority, and staying there will not give you any long lasting peace.

You can't extinguish a guerrilla war without taking some rather illegal methods, and even then it's not guaranteed. And by staying in their land, you only give the people more reasons to attack you which could be used by some charismatic speaker in position of authority to recruit even more fighters. And the moment the army leaves, there would be a huge shit storm - the feeble democracy they are trying to establish is likely to crash and the power vacuum will probably be taken by someone pretty atrocious, so the war will have to go on.

And that's a major waste of resources, so fuck it.

I could see how your logic might work, but unless your country is in a real war with someone directly attacking your country in order to conquer/exterminate it, the military isn't protecting your ass much.

The conflict in the middle east not withstanding I respect a soldier because the basis of what a solider is meant for is to protect their country, or to phrase it differently, there home. I respect a soldier for what they stand for, however I do not respect the idea of invading any of the middle eastern countries for oil weapons of mass retardation some terrorists.

 

[Nigh Invulnerable]

Scene kids wearing Cradle of Filth shirts make me grin a little, especially when they fail to recognise a Cradle song if it comes on.

The only falsifying that actually angers me is people online who think they're emotionally unbalanced and ultra violent people who are barely kept from lashing out at others by what we humans call 'social restraint'. There's something about that degree of nihilistic self aggrandisement that sets my teeth on edge, I don't have time to dig that picture out but you know the kind I mean...

EDIT: People who think that others behaving in the socially 'normal' manner are automatically mindless sheep. Like that t-shirt, 'you laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at you because you are all the same'. No, they laugh at you because you're a man wearing make-up and you're wearing trousers covered in zips that look like sails. I love metal and used to dig the Gothic look but seriously, most 'alternative' fashion is hilarious.

You just summed up every point i was going to write. Thank you. The Internet psycho and the elitist metal heads are the most annoying people i meet in day to day life.

what are metal elitists? are those the people who think metal is the ultimate genre of music and anything else sucks sorry if this was a stupid question

O.T. the people who say they can knock anyone out

Metal elitists are the people who go beyond thinking metal is the ultimate genre and instead attack people who like a different flavor of metal than they do. It's merely a matter of opinions, but some people will tell you that this:

Spoiler

is the greatest music ever because it is "deep". I will argue that it is crappy lo-fi screeching. Some will also say that "metalcore" is entirely stupid because its fans are all "scene kids" and not real metal fans or some such nonsense.

 

[FinalHeart95]

Bandwagon fans of any kind. Especially all of the Flyers fans roaming around since that 3-0 comeback. Proclaiming that my team sucks without even providing one reason that the Flyers beat them (Devils), because they probably didn't watch a single game in the series.

Can also be interpreted at "posers" for other things, basically people that pretend to know a lot of something they know nothing about. I'm guilty of this at times, but I'm talking about people who do it consistently.

 

[DefunctTheory]

You are a bandwagon fan if your first Resident Evil game was Resident Evil 4, and I hate you.

No, I'm just someone who doesn't think horrible controls and camera angles that are harsher than razor blades in my rectum make a good game.

On Topic: It doesn't bother me until someone actually, verbally claims to be what they aren't, especially military.

 

[William Dickbringer]

Scene kids wearing Cradle of Filth shirts make me grin a little, especially when they fail to recognise a Cradle song if it comes on.

The only falsifying that actually angers me is people online who think they're emotionally unbalanced and ultra violent people who are barely kept from lashing out at others by what we humans call 'social restraint'. There's something about that degree of nihilistic self aggrandisement that sets my teeth on edge, I don't have time to dig that picture out but you know the kind I mean...

EDIT: People who think that others behaving in the socially 'normal' manner are automatically mindless sheep. Like that t-shirt, 'you laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at you because you are all the same'. No, they laugh at you because you're a man wearing make-up and you're wearing trousers covered in zips that look like sails. I love metal and used to dig the Gothic look but seriously, most 'alternative' fashion is hilarious.

You just summed up every point i was going to write. Thank you. The Internet psycho and the elitist metal heads are the most annoying people i meet in day to day life.

what are metal elitists? are those the people who think metal is the ultimate genre of music and anything else sucks sorry if this was a stupid question

O.T. the people who say they can knock anyone out

Metal elitists are the people who go beyond thinking metal is the ultimate genre and instead attack people who like a different flavor of metal than they do. It's merely a matter of opinions, but some people will tell you that this:

Spoiler

is the greatest music ever because it is "deep". I will argue that it is crappy lo-fi screeching. Some will also say that "metalcore" is entirely stupid because its fans are all "scene kids" and not real metal fans or some such nonsense.

oh ok btw what the hell was that song you put in the spoiler I think it made me die a little inside