Don't claim to be what you're not.

[Billion Backs]

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All the prepy kids at my elementary school, first year of high school 75% were emo. Basically this kid:

(Most emo kids are posers anyway, any kid who is actually miserable or sad either doesn't really show it or is goth.)

Edit: When I was younger I spent many years in therapy because of depression, nobody at my school even realised. Emo kids seem to be proud or think its cool to be depressed, thats why I kinda hate them.

Wait, since when emos can't eat ketchup? *Ohhh I get it, his hand... It's not really blood, it's ketchup! LOL.

And there's nothing wrong in being depressed, that's coming from someone who has been diagnosed. People who promote some shiny fucking illusion piss me off... While being depressed is not exactly a fashion statement and I rather dislike the whole emo "thing", enforcing that things aren't shit is just hilarious.

 

[Queen Michael]

I really hate it when people say "Twilight are the best books ever!" If you enjoy those books, fine; but people who say that usually have never read Dostojevskij (Swedish spelling), Cervantes, Hesse, Murakami, or the wonderful Proust, so how can they determine what books are the best ever?

 

[Mrsoupcup]

And there's nothing wrong in being depressed, that's coming from someone who has been diagnosed.

I was diagnosed to, I dislike emo people because they pretend to be depressed.

 

[Mrsoupcup]

I really hate it when people say "Twilight are the best books ever!" If you enjoy those books, fine; but people who say that usually have never read Dostojevskij (Swedish spelling), Cervantes, Hesse, Murakami, or the wonderful Proust, so how can they determine what books are the best ever?

Its like when people say "Lady Gaga is better than Freddie Mercury" HA, my ass she is. Of course the only Queen song these people have heard is Bohemian Rhapsody.

 

[Doitpow]

I really hate it when people say "Twilight are the best books ever!" If you enjoy those books, fine; but people who say that usually have never read Dostojevskij (Swedish spelling), Cervantes, Hesse, Murakami, or the wonderful Proust, so how can they determine what books are the best ever?

I agreed with up to Proust.
God I hate Proust. Except his approach to homosexuality, which was refreshing. But gods I hate him.

 

[DarkRyter]

I apologize to anybody who misunderstands this. I wrote it while sleep deprived and irritated. It was meant as a rant about people I know and was wondering if anybody else had similar experiences. I would edit it but then people's responses wouldn't make sense so I'll leave it as is.

I may just be mean but these things bug me. First, people who wear dog tags but have never served. If you're going to wear them, at least know their purpose please. (For anybody who doesn't know, they are used for the identification of dead remains that would be otherwise unknown). Also, if you are a military spouse you are NOT part of the military. Yeah, I realize it's difficult and all and I do commend them for what they do but they did NOT enlist (or become an officer), have not gone through the training and are not risking their lives for their country. Don't claim to be what you are not. Also, people who wear MMA shirts but can't fight.

OToes this bug anybody else or are there similar things that bug you?

What if you have, like, a dog and sometimes you carry around his tags because the dog doesn't really like wearing them?

And what if you're just a fan of MMA? Or even more so, what if it's a different MMA? I should be able to wear my Mastodon Mecha Association shirt without being looked down upon.

 

[Mrsoupcup]

Just because someone's in the military doesn't mean that they don't deserve respect, granted, here in the states, the folks fighting in the Middle East are fighting a bit of a useless war at this point, but they're still putting their necks out for what many believe to be a worthy cause, and that's got to be worth something.

You perfectly stated what I was trying to put in words. (My brain hurts today)

 

[Billion Backs]

May I ask why? Most soldiers are just regular people protecting what they beleive in. (My uncle was a Rifleman, an I plan to be Police officer)

BTK was also just a person who was protecting what he believed in. (That is, if he didn't kill enough people, the state of California would sink or some other hilarious shit).

Just protecting one's beliefs doesn't make it worth it in other people's eyes, and really shouldn't. And I'd say it's hardly true that most soldiers are actually in the military out of some kind of nationalistic pride or whatever.

A few of my friends joined the military because there wasn't anything better for them to do, they were fit enough and the pay/benefits were okay. In my old country, there was a conscription which all the sane people tried to avoid by any means, so unless you were some nationalistic punk asshole, you were in the military because you failed or didn't have the balls to avoid it (which is reasonable, it's a criminal offense in Russia or anywhere else to run away from forced conscription, it's conscription for a reason, not voluntary).

A lot of people do a lot of shit to protect what they believe in, or what they think they believe in. It doesn't make it something to be respected or liked, given the fact that there's a pretty fat chance a few of the things they believe in might go straight against you.

 

[Doitpow]

You have no respect for people who risk their lives to protect your ass?
Dumbass
Dick
I can't think of an accurate term here.

I've answered this in this forum already, and wont do so again.

 

[LitleWaffle]

What you have to watch out for though it the "tarred with the same brush" problem.

Ive ridden motorbikes for a few years now and know a handful of people who have had dog tags made in case they are involved in an accident. I am against wearing them as fasion but when they serve a purpose (I have seen sets including medical info eg blood type) I think they are a good idea, im actually considering getting myself a set.

Problem then is I would wear them all the time and be regarded as "someone who wears them and has never served" even though I think I have a perfectly good reason for wearing them.

Never fear, we know why you'll wear them, the people who don't are just morons. =P

 

[KimberlyGoreHound]

The only falsifying that actually angers me is people online who think they're emotionally unbalanced and ultra violent people who are barely kept from lashing out at others by what we humans call 'social restraint'. There's something about that degree of nihilistic self aggrandisement that sets my teeth on edge, I don't have time to dig that picture out but you know the kind I mean...

Totally agree - many people like to pretend their a sociopath or something, talking about how they would 'totally stab someone if they did that'. But what about someone currently in a psychiatric hospital for diagnosed psychopathy?

What pisses me off is when people wear a band shirt/other merchandaise when they don't actually KNOW the band's material. For example, I listen to a bit of Tool, but I wouldn't wear a Tool shirt (passed one at Value Village) because if someone walked up to me and asked me their favourite album, I wouldn't know my ass from 10,000 Days. On the other hand, if I'm wearing my Metallica shirt, or my Pantera backpack, I could go on and on comparing each album and song.

In short: If you're going to wear a band's merchandaise, you should know their music well enough to carry out a conversation about it. Knowing everything isn't necessary, but if you can't talk about them for five minutes, you shouldn't wear their stuff.

 

[Eggsnham]

Just because someone's in the military doesn't mean that they don't deserve respect, granted, here in the states, the folks fighting in the Middle East are fighting a bit of a useless war at this point, but they're still putting their necks out for what many believe to be a worthy cause, and that's got to be worth something.

You perfectly stated what I was trying to put in words. (My brain hurts today)

Haha, glad I could be of help

 

[Mrsoupcup]

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Well I see what your saying, what I meant is people who dislike the military today (There is alot of reason to, so I can understand) seem to have zero respect. (At least at my old school) On Rememberence day (Basically Canadian Veterans day) people at my school refused to show, millions of Canadian troops died in WW1 and WW2 for freedom. Point I'm trying to make is this, the modern military is hit or miss. It may appeal to some but not others. I just wish people today had respect for the lives lost in the past.

 

[Baby Tea]

First of all i'd like to point out that there's a massive difference between people who willingly sign up and those who are unfairly drafted (which is what i'm assuming happened to your uncle, which is in itself one of the most absurd things ever created).

I don't mean to cause any offense regarding what your uncle had been put through both physically and psychologically during his time in the armed forces, but no-one can justify that particular war, anyone with any education on the Vietnam war knows that it boiled down to nothing more than the U.S's desire to control the spread of communism at any cost, unfortunately the particular cost of that ideology was far greater than it ever should have been. No-one can say that military action was 'right' or just, and to argue otherwise is absurd.

The idea that Vietnam was a threat to the US in away way is absurd, as is thinking that Iraq is today (and if it is that is only because the US made it a threat.

Aaaaand you completely missed the point of what I was saying.
I'm not talking about the Vietnam or Iraq war. I'm saying my uncle was in service, he was a marine, and his reasons for enlisting were not 'to kill things'. That was the base of your statement: That all people who enlist are just wanting to kill things. And I'm bringing up my Uncle, who enlisted of his own free will, and other family and friends of mine to point out that that statement is false. Not subjectively wrong, but objectively and flat out incorrect. Regardless of whether you think the military does anything to protect people, or serve the country (Seeing as you must be an expert in the field), the reason people join isn't 'just to kill things'.
That was your statement, and it's objectively false.

I feel i'm getting off-topic somewhat but that is only to justify my reasoning behind the fact that the idea of the military being an entity that somehow protects peoples communities is just absurd, if individuals truly wished to benefit those around them there are far more beneficial and diplomatic ways to do so.

The only function of a fighting military is to attempt to control issues and circumstances that have only even been caused due to soceity's collective failings.

A fighting military, ready and prepared, protects countries (Especially wealthy ones) simply by being a deterrent. The fact that it's there, and ready, is enough. The idea that a fighting military isn't necessary (Which, by the way, is exactly what you're implying), and that we'd be fine without one is naive at best.

 

[Billion Backs]

I really hate it when people say "Twilight are the best books ever!" If you enjoy those books, fine; but people who say that usually have never read Dostojevskij (Swedish spelling), Cervantes, Hesse, Murakami, or the wonderful Proust, so how can they determine what books are the best ever?

But then again, how can you say that the books you've included in your comment are "the best books ever"?

Of course, there is the more or less objective thing to writing, but can you really claim that it's somehow "better"?

It all comes down to personal likes and dislikes. I rather dislike much of literary "community" because it comes down to naked elitism.

I've read much of Dostoevsky's works in my native Russian, and I can't say I'm a big fan. Same goes for a somewhat decent list of classics, both Russian or otherwise. Some were better written (or in some cases translated) then others, but that didn't really make them better books...

It's still very subjective. Perhaps from one perspective the qualities you consider "bad writing" can be seen as something really good.

When anyone says "best ever" it's generally a hyperbole or obvious sarcasm. Because there is no objective way of saying what's the best, even when it comes to pretty obvious things. You can only pretend to.

Meh, tired of pointless ranting.

 

[Billion Backs]

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Well I see what your saying, what I meant is people who dislike the military today (There is alot of reason to, so I can understand) seem to have zero respect. (At least at my old school) On Rememberence day (Basically Canadian Veterans day) people at my school refused to show, millions of Canadian troops died in WW1 and WW2 for freedom. Point I'm trying to make is this, the modern military is hit or miss. It may appeal to some but not others. I just wish people today had respect for the lives lost in the past.

One might simply have different standards when it comes to all these things.

I don't hold particular value to people's lives, so much of this is missing the point. And I don't think some kind of values should be enforced, either - it's anyone's choice to have whatever values they might want to have, as long as they don't break laws. I didn't kill anyone, and don't plan to, whether I see loss of life as something that matters or not, and it's as much a stance as any other.

While values as revering life can be seen as something intrinsic, they aren't necessarily so, I guess that's what I'm saying. And unless someone who expresses such values commits a crime, he or she is as much in the right as anyone else.

 

[MattRooney06]

I may just be mean but these things bug me. First, people who wear dog tags but have never served. If you're going to wear them, at least know their purpose please. (For anybody who doesn't know, they are used for the identification of dead remains that would be otherwise unknown). Also, if you are a military spouse you are NOT part of the military. Yeah, I realize it's difficult and all and I do commend them for what they do but they did NOT enlist (or become an officer), have not gone through the training and are not risking their lives for their country. Don't claim to be what you are not.

I have no respect for people in the military. I respect people who pretend to be in the military even less.

Really? how come...just intrested