And be broke and in debt with no job? I'd rather work in a warehouse with no education than sit on my butt at my parents' house writing on a message board.Popadoo said:
Don't go to college (if you're in college, drop out)
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I really don't get the point of this thread? You're bummed because you did the wrong degree and can't get a job afterwards so EVERYBODY ELSE should give up on their dreams and just go into work straight from school?
You hear that doctors? Don't bother with higher education, slap on some scrubs and start operating!
Scientists! Pop down to NASA and start playing with their shit. Long as you've got a white coat on, who needs a degree?
Engineers? You don't need to learn anything, just wing it!
God forbid being in debt!
You hear that doctors? Don't bother with higher education, slap on some scrubs and start operating!
Scientists! Pop down to NASA and start playing with their shit. Long as you've got a white coat on, who needs a degree?
Engineers? You don't need to learn anything, just wing it!
God forbid being in debt!
and $11,000 in the hole. Also you might want to work on your reading, as I've said there aren't any jobs for unskilled workers here. They face 10-20% unemployment, and plenty of fools join them every year. Denmark has a shortage of skilled workers, even in downtimes, and aiming for the sector that faces an imminent worker shortage seems like an excellent choice.zelda2fanboy said:
So again, why do I need to drop out of college?
Yes. Your bad experience makes the whole thing an exercise in futility for everyone. I mean, after all, how do we know your resume isn't shitty, your interviewing skills aren't pathetic, and your job hunting method consists of more than randomly tossing poorly-made resumes at random companies on Monster?zelda2fanboy said:
Yeah, um, sorry man, it's not college that's the problem here. Unemployment rate for those with no degree? ~8.4% (over 13% for people who didn't finish high school) Those with a Bachelor's? ~4.2%. Another fun statistic: median weekly earnings for a high school grad with no college: ~$626. Bachelor's Degree: ~$1,038. That's over 20k extra per year.
This isn't bad advice. The economy could very well collapse again under the weight of these loans. I'm not unique.Mortai Gravesend said:
I know how colleges make money. Can't get a job with your associates? Of course you can't! You have to have a bachelors. Can't find a job with a bachelors? Might as well get your masters. That's where the REAL jobs are. It's all a big waste of time and I've seen no evidence to the contrary.
Has anyone on this board who graduated after 2008 found a job that pays salary, utilizes their degree, and they didn't get it because they already knew people who worked there?
I've never even gotten an interview. Even if I were "randomly tossing poorly-made resumes at random companies on Monster," wouldn't I have heard from somebody at some point? Unemployment statistics don't apply to people who have never held a job and they don't apply to people who are underemployed. Technically, I'm not included in that statistic at all.evilneko said:
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I hate to say it but this statement you made earlier is rather telling:zelda2fanboy said:
Making friends at uni/college is not difficult at-all, are you sure your lack of finding a good job isn't down to a lack of social skills rather than the course itself? I don't mean this in a offensive way, it's just with so many societies and clubs at uni, I find it hard to believe that anyone could find no-one to be friends with.
Yeah, do you know where any bridges are being built? My boss is a civil engineering graduate from the University of Illinois and he could really use a better job.Mortai Gravesend said:
I don't even want a good job at this point. I just want to make more than minimum wage, even it's by 25 cents. You see, the new hires at my job who also do not have degrees (and one of which is not a high school graduate) make 25 cents more than me. I can understand having poor social skills could limit my chances at employment, but they can't really detect that sort of thing from a piece of paper. I've yet to get an interview.JoJoDeathunter said:
Unemployment statistics include those actively seeking employment, so yeah, you're included.zelda2fanboy said:
Or maybe not, since clearly you aren't, or you would have gotten something. Even just tossing your resume up on Monster, CareerBuilder etc without specifically applying for anything will get you a response. Not the kind of response anyone really wants, being that it'll just be some desperate staffer trying to get warm bodies for crap jobs, but a response nonetheless.
Find me one civil engineering job. My boss would really like to know. He'll even relocate.Mortai Gravesend said:
My teacher told my class that we all need degrees and we need to make sure our occupation will still be needed by the time we apply. I've heard of people who were passed by McDonalds because they were over qualified. Who's really to blame, the student who needs to decide their occupation by sophomore year or the people who didn't guide them while they were making their decisions?
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You are talking to a population of sheltered, brainwashed drones
They will not listen until it is too late, they have not thought that SOMEONE has to pay back the money for their loans and we both know the number who don't pay back vastly outweigh the few who do
Thanks for trying, now we can sit back and watch the world collapse from their own ignorance and "education" that provides them with the most useless skill ever invented... essay writing
You are talking to a population of sheltered, brainwashed drones
They will not listen until it is too late, they have not thought that SOMEONE has to pay back the money for their loans and we both know the number who don't pay back vastly outweigh the few who do
Thanks for trying, now we can sit back and watch the world collapse from their own ignorance and "education" that provides them with the most useless skill ever invented... essay writing