woah, look i'm not saying i'm their biggest fan or anything but if you've ever tried to play that fast...and I have...you'd know it takes talent! and I did admit they were a bit repetitive or did you miss that?Artemis923 said:Because Li isn't a good freakin guitarist, he's just fast.strength of 7 men said:okay, I'll admit they are a bit repetitive...but when you have a guitarist like that who cares?
A good guitarist can write 10 songs and have them all sound different.
That does not prove that their song are sped up. Try again.Spacewolf said:well ive seen them live and their playing in Preston in october (about that time of the year) for £17. If you want to go and see them. but they will probly mess it up againDarth Pope said:Prove it.Spacewolf said:They carnt even play though the fire and flames live as its been sped up
What he is trying to say, rather bluntly, is that good musicians use their technique as a tool to express themselves, and to contribute to the music overall. Technique is a means to the end of good music, not an end unto itself.strength of 7 men said:woah, look i'm not saying i'm their biggest fan or anything but if you've ever tried to play that fast...and I have...you'd know it takes talent! and I did admit they were a bit repetitive or did you miss that?Artemis923 said:Because Li isn't a good freakin guitarist, he's just fast.strength of 7 men said:okay, I'll admit they are a bit repetitive...but when you have a guitarist like that who cares?
A good guitarist can write 10 songs and have them all sound different.
what you mean them not being able to play their own songs means that it carn't of been sped up. Try watching Youtube footage of them live they can play fast but they carnt ever play to the same tune as when its been done in the studio.Darth Pope said:That does not prove that their song are sped up. Try again.Spacewolf said:well ive seen them live and their playing in Preston in october (about that time of the year) for £17. If you want to go and see them. but they will probly mess it up againDarth Pope said:Prove it.Spacewolf said:They carnt even play though the fire and flames live as its been sped up
First define "he". Same Toteman is a classically trained guitarist, Herman Li has played for over twenty years, and Fred Leclercq can play bass and lead guitar as well as sing.dontworryaboutit said:I'm convinced he doesn't know how to play the guitar. Every time he plays a song, it seems to change a lot.
Ninja'd. XDberethond said:What he is trying to say, rather bluntly, is that good musicians use their technique as a tool to express themselves, and to contribute to the music overall. Technique is a means to the end of good music, not an end unto itself.strength of 7 men said:woah, look i'm not saying i'm their biggest fan or anything but if you've ever tried to play that fast...and I have...you'd know it takes talent! and I did admit they were a bit repetitive or did you miss that?Artemis923 said:Because Li isn't a good freakin guitarist, he's just fast.strength of 7 men said:okay, I'll admit they are a bit repetitive...but when you have a guitarist like that who cares?
A good guitarist can write 10 songs and have them all sound different.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09SMlFXBtUk&feature=channel_pageSpacewolf said:what you mean them not being able to play their own songs means that it carn't of been sped up. Try watching Youtube footage of them live they can play fast but they carnt ever play to the same tune as when its been done in the studio.Darth Pope said:That does not prove that their song are sped up. Try again.Spacewolf said:well ive seen them live and their playing in Preston in october (about that time of the year) for £17. If you want to go and see them. but they will probly mess it up againDarth Pope said:Prove it.Spacewolf said:They carnt even play though the fire and flames live as its been sped up
Speed =/= Talentstrength of 7 men said:woah, look i'm not saying i'm their biggest fan or anything but if you've ever tried to play that fast...and I have...you'd know it takes talent! and I did admit they were a bit repetitive or did you miss that?Artemis923 said:Because Li isn't a good freakin guitarist, he's just fast.strength of 7 men said:okay, I'll admit they are a bit repetitive...but when you have a guitarist like that who cares?
A good guitarist can write 10 songs and have them all sound different.
Yet you wouldn't hear this if Max made this thread.Curtmiester said:Um....good for you?
Yes it does! It just doesn't make you a musicianArtemis923 said:HA!!!Darth Pope said:Easily one of the most misunderstood bands ever. People generally right them off for always sounding the same in all they're songs or for their lyrics. But it seems to me no one pays any attention to their greatest qualities.
I personally enjoy DragonForce because they there are many layers of melody, harmony, and rhythm parts in their songs. Second in today's music industry when writing new material 90% of bands copy and paste what's popular. DragonForce on the other hand marches to the beat of their own drum, there's no other band like them.
And don't even try the "All their songs sound the same" argument here. If that's what you think listen to Heartbreak Armageddon, then My Spirit Will Go On, then Dawn Over a New World.
Also try to keep the hate to a minimum. I'm not trying to blast you for not liking them but simply being the one to step forward and say I like DragonForce.
Your Studioforce against my Rhapsody, lets see how they fare then.
Take away Herman Li's effect pedals, and he's not worth a mummer's fart. Playing fast doesn't make you a guitar master.
okay fine they are the worst band ever! happy?Artemis923 said:Ninja'd. XDberethond said:What he is trying to say, rather bluntly, is that good musicians use their technique as a tool to express themselves, and to contribute to the music overall. Technique is a means to the end of good music, not an end unto itself.strength of 7 men said:woah, look i'm not saying i'm their biggest fan or anything but if you've ever tried to play that fast...and I have...you'd know it takes talent! and I did admit they were a bit repetitive or did you miss that?Artemis923 said:Because Li isn't a good freakin guitarist, he's just fast.strength of 7 men said:okay, I'll admit they are a bit repetitive...but when you have a guitarist like that who cares?
A good guitarist can write 10 songs and have them all sound different.
I'm sorry, but how does that prove he knows how to play the instrument?Darth Pope said:First define "he". Same Toteman is a classically trained guitarist, Herman Li has played for over twenty years, and Fred Leclercq can play bass and lead guitar as well as sing.dontworryaboutit said:I'm convinced he doesn't know how to play the guitar. Every time he plays a song, it seems to change a lot.
Also this statistic is highly exaggerated.Darth Pope said:Second in today's music industry when writing new material 90% of bands copy and paste what's popular.