drugs are bad mkay.

[Inverse Skies]

Why would you bother with drugs? Study the biochemistry behind them to see what they really do to the brain and/or spinal cord and it's really quite disturbing - enough to neglect the petty high that some people seem incapable of living without.

 

[DannyDamage]

I'm not going to go into great detail about this because I have done so in the shit load of other drug related threads.

The original poster did put more effort in that most of OPs who normally either say "I love drugs, yeah!!!!" or "Mummy said drugs are bad and I'm not allowed to do them".

Good luck trying to get a positive point about weed across over here. I've found that most people on here are the sort that haven't tried it, read some government report somewhere (or watched the BBC news) and now think their "opinion" is right and that weed is some evil brain washing device that will turn us all into heroin addicts, car thieves and terrorists. (10 years on and I still only smoke weed, nothing else. I barely drink!)

Weed doesn't make people bad/stupid, PEOPLE are bad/stupid and will find anything to point the finger at just to make it look like it's not their fault.

Lastly, the UK now has some what of a tax scheme with cannabis. It's just got back to being a class B drug and instead of any form of imprisonment the police will give anyone caught smoking/in possession of cannabis a nice £80 fine.

Imagine the amount of people that do use this substance that grows in the ground. Okay, so not all of them will get stopped and fined but enough of them will. £80 each time for something almost as commonly used as alcohol and coffee, that will soon add up to a nice little amount of taxation without it actually being an official tax.

(Bollocks, I went on for much longer than I expected to!)

 

[sms_117b]

http://www.freewebs.com/medcanaware/chart_DrugToxicity.jpg

http://procrast-nation.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/drug-related-deaths.png

There is another one I'm looking for, but can't find, lists the number of deaths in the US since records began, Alcohol & Heart failure are the top 2 killers and Marijuana has 0

 

[klarr]

i belive that drugs are ok, with moderation! mkay!

 

[Eykal]

Drugs have a tendency to fuck up your brain and make you do stupid shit.

Actually, I think people should be allowed to smoke weed. Of all the drugs, it's the safest.

Not some bogus stories about: "my friend got raped by her friends when she smoked pot".
That never happend to anyone I know, it only tells me their friend needs to pick her friends better and develop some judge of character.

If someone tells you soemone smoked pot and raped someone then tell them they're full of shit.
Pot makes you mellow. (Although I've never used any I know things).
You'd be like "Shit man we could go rape so-and-so"
"Yeah but...shit why bother man! I'm hungry."

 

[Darkmark44]

Wow...

Anyway, I find it stupid how people blame weed for everything. I find it much safer then alcohol, much safer. At least with weed I could not kill myself with it. And plus, its not that bad of a drug, I mean, it makes you mello and all that but at least it does not make you drunk, or have you die of alcohol poisoning.

 

[S.H.A.R.P.]

When you use some Mary Jane, it might make the step in going for hard drugs a bit easier. Three years ago, I ate mushrooms. I've been meaning to do it again, because it was funny. But the urge is not that great, and I can delay it good enough. A few friends of mine sniffed some coke say once every two (or three or four) months at a random party. I never joined them, only until last new year's eve, when I tried it for the first time. It really wasn't that interesting and I hardly fell anything besides staying drunk from champaign bourbon and beer. I don't think I'll try it again because I had quite the head ache when I woke up.

 

[Lord Krunk]

The fact that I have seen many stoners in my time, and the fact that one time I saw my cousin getting beaten up by her boyfriend (who was stoned at the time, and on Christmas Day too), are enough to put me off. Sure, it may not kill me, but I don't want to become a degenerate burden to society like most of them are.

Although scumofsociety seems to have proven me wrong somewhat, in that not all pot-heads are morons.

 

[Mullahgrrl]

Drugs in no way are actually going to improve your quality of life they are only there for an escape from reality just like video games are.

Are you saying that video games do not improve your quality of life?

 

[traceur_]

My drug of choice is adrenaline, I've never used recreational drugs and I never plan to, seriously I'd kick the living shit out my friends if they ever did drugs, I don't believe all the propaganda but I still hate drugs. But prescription drugs are okay, I have ADHD and I act like a total prick without my meds.

 

[S.H.A.R.P.]

Drugs aren't 'bad' per se.

they're just stupid.

Only losers take drugs - i'm high on life, myself, and my beatiful girlfriend as it is.

I disagree. I am not a loser, whatever the definition of a loser is.

 

[khululy]

That's not what I'm trying to say.
I'm not saying it's cool just saying most people are poorly informed about drugs.
thus going to far and exeed their boundries due to lack of knowledge
There is no proof that cannabis actually destroys the brain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/THC

The fact that I have seen many stoners in my time, and the fact that one time I saw my cousin getting beaten up by her boyfriend (who was stoned at the time, and on Christmas Day too), are enough to put me off. Sure, it may not kill me, but I don't want to become a degenerate burden to society like most of them are.

Although scumofsociety seems to have proven me wrong somewhat, in that not all pot-heads are morons.

I know a lot of stoners too and most of them have families, jobs and live normal lives. They'd never hurt anyone because of their stonedness.
That is not a valid excuse it's more likely caused by repressed agression.
There is a difference between smoking an occasional spliff or being high for 24/7.
Thus a difference between cannabis use and abuse.

A friend of mine got killed in a car accident should I henceforth shun cars for the rest of my life?
That's the same type of logic.

 

[JHaakma]

I would say that you can only have the option to say drugs are bad if you have even experimented or at least tried them.

Personally, in my opinion drugs are awesome if you want to kill the extreme boredom you might have and use up the extra cash in your walet... However drugs are bad if you intend to wake up and go to work in the morning or need to make something like a bingo match interesting... Stuff like that is what alcohol is for! XD

Quote Mr Makey from South Park Planetarium episode "Drugs are good M'kay"

I'm not against drugs, in fact I'm quite keen on halucinagens, however I completely disagree that someone needs to try drugs to have an opinion. I have the opinion that you should not shoot yourself in the head. I think getting shot in the head is bad. I haven't experienced it myself, but I'm still able to form that opinion based on the evidence available (i.e. that nearly everyone who's been shot in the head has died). I have the opinion that cocaine and heroine are bad, because of the evidence available (I'm studying neuropsychology at University).

So basically, I think that to say whether drugs are bad or good you have to actually know about them and their affects. You say you've had great times on drugs, but I don't see that as enough to give you the right to preach them, unless you've actually researched their long term effects.

Here's a short list of drugs and whether, based on what I've studied, they are worth taking, taking into account the risks.

Weed- Completely non-fatal, can be a party drug or a mind opening drug. Completely non-fatal, non-addictive, no side effects unless taken every day for your whole life. I still won't take it more than once a week just to be on the safe side though.

Alcohol- I drink quite a bit, but in a way it's one of the worst drugs around. Cocaine is addictive, sure, and it can mess up the chemical balance in your brain, but alcohol doesn't screw around. When you binge drink the alcohol activates a 'suicide gene' in your learning based neurons. That's right, alcohol makes your brain cells commit suicide.

Acid- like a lot of halucinagens, acid has no proven side effects and it's nearly impossible to overdose it (the last reported case of overdose was caused by a guy who consumed like 5 GRAMS of it, which is almost a thousand times more than is needed). I think this drug can improve you're life, so long as you have the intellectual capacity to utilize the experience.

 

[khululy]

so if you use it medicinally it's good and otherwise it's bad.

Just like having sex for fun is bad because sex was ment for reproduction right? so you should use it for that purpose and not for your own fun.

maybe not all drug users use drugs to feel positive maybe they already do and try another perception of that positive feeling.

It's a proven fact that cannabis is a mood enhancing drug, meaning that used while feeling down it can cause you to feel more down. It could also provide distraction wich is good if the down feeling wasn't caused by serious problems thus working as an anti depressand.
But since it's more likely to enhance the down feeling it's not recomanded to use as such.

Besides all (positive) feelings are caused by substance in your brain, that's called neuroligics.

and not all drug users need drugs. they just like them.
people who "need" drugs are chemicaly or mentaly depandent and thus addicted.

I bet there are lot of things in your live that make you happy that I don't need to feel happy.
Does that makes you a loser too?

 

[Inverse Skies]

so if you use it medicinally it's good and otherwise it's bad.

Just like having sex for fun is bad because sex was ment for reproduction right? so you should use it for that purpose and not for your own fun.

maybe not all drug users use drugs to feel positive maybe they already do and try another perception of that positive feeling.

It's a proven fact that cannabis is a mood enhancing drug, meaning that used while feeling down it can cause you to feel more down. It could also provide distraction wich is good if the down feeling wasn't caused by serious problems thus working as an anti depressand.
But since it's more likely to enhance the down feeling it's not recomanded to use as such.

Besides all (positive) feelings are caused by substance in your brain, that's called neuroligics.

and not all drug users need drugs. they just like them.
people who "need" drugs are chemicaly or mentaly depandent and thus addicted.

I bet there are lot of things in your live that make you happy that I don't need to feel happy.
Does that makes you a loser too?

Just like it's been proven that cannibus shrinks the hippocampus and interfers with short-term memory. There are other, better ways to light up the pleasure centres of the brain and get the hit of serotonin/dopamine drug users so desperately seek.

 

[Booze Zombie]

I think people are really dying of stress when they're on drugs. They're high and thinking: "The posters said I'd die from drugs! I'm gonna die! Oh God!"

Calling drugs the root of all evil and not educating people about the ACTUAL FUCKING EFFECTS is detrimental to society.

Just like it's been proven that cannabis shrinks the hippocampus and interferes with short-term memory. There are other, better ways to light up the pleasure centres of the brain and get the hit of serotonin/dopamine drug users so desperately seek.

Just thought I should note that scientists have found that injecting rats with refined THC actually caused them to grow more brain cells.

But in the grand scheme of things, I think marijuana's effects are light in comparison to the effects of alcohol abuse and cigarettes.

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

*first of all I do not want to force anyone on this site to experiment with drugs and/or alcohol nor do I support the use of chemical drugs*

I've seen a lot of anti cannabis propaganda on the internet, claiming that smoking weed will, without question, cause the use of heavier drugs make you rape people and steal from you friends and family.
On the other end I read that the "inventor" of LSD, who was a chemist and experimented with his own creation from time to time, died at the age of 102.
Then I read the reports about how people get addicted to simple painkillers and sleeping pills wich can be bought without a perscription.
Or how many people die by drunk driving or gun fire.
But on the other hand there are no known cases of people who died from cannabis.

I know this is all confusing and makes little to no sense but my point is.
Are drugs really that lethal?
If a man can reach the age of 102 while using lsd in it's life from time to time. him being a chemist knew what the substance did to him and knew wich doses he should take.
But with all the scare tactics and taboo around drugs people get little to no real information about the real facts.

If some teens want to smoke weed wouldn't it be much safer if they did it in a controlled enviorment and bought from reliable sources?

I live in holland and most of our "coffee shops" sell clean, non-laced, weed. They don't sell hardrugs like coke or acid so there is no coaxing them into trying something harder. All sales are controlled and are bound by gouvernment restrictions.
Statisticly the average weed use is lower in the Netherlands than in countries like France and Germany.
I think when we live in a world where people can get drunk whenever they want and aren't shunned for it we also should be allowed to smoke weed if we choose so.
But I do think good information should at all times be provided to everyone.
From kids to teens to adults.
Not some bogus stories about: "my friend got raped by her friends when she smoked pot".
That never happend to anyone I know, it only tells me their friend needs to pick her friends better and develop some judge of character.

I'm not saying smoking weed is without health risks. but so isn't plastic surgery, drinking, light products with artificial sweetners, junk food, driving a car or being in your own home (most accident happen in your own home it's a proven fact).

I Only smoke weed and don't use other drugs
Well I did ate some mushrooms, but those are not addictive, sure the experience can be but the shrooms themself taste horrible(don't know how you do it mario).

In other words: I think proper education about the real effect of narcotics could prevent and or lessen accidental drug abuse and overdosing.

The only drug that should be legalized is cannabis in my opinion. it could also provide a healthy tax income for countries since pot smokers are everywere.
I know it can make you lazy and I know there cases of stoners who developed psychoses and schizofrenia but those people were likely already mentally unstable and shouldn't have smoked in the first place.

When little kids are given ritalin when diagnosed with ADD, like myself, they just become junkies and nobody cares about that it seems. I have taken ritalin myself for a while and I felt at the top of the world at first and relaxed but it got me so bland that it eventually tore me apart in terrible moodswings.

sorry about the rant, but I would like to hear your opinion about this subject.
Is it just to use scare tactics against drugs or should we provide proper and true information about them?

"Knowing is half the battle."
G.I. Joe

And knowing what drugs are bad and what drugs do what so you can consume them with knowledge without killing yourself.

Durgs and guns(and games and film) are not bad mis information,fascist bans and abuse from ignorance is.