Drugs you think should be legalized?

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DefunctTheory

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tzimize said:
Oh yeah, dont misunderstand. I dont want heroin legalized at all. But are you sure cannabis is more addictive than nicotine? I'm pretty sure I read in some science magazine that nicotine is as addictive as heroin (or as difficult to quit taking) you just dont get addicted that quick.
Ugh.

Nicotine is NOT as addictive as heroin. Whens the last time you saw a quitting smoker break out in hives and start seeing things?

Weed is not as addict as tobacco, but it can be addictive.
 

Denamic

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All of them.
Your body, your choice.
Just add deterrents like if you're on LSD while you drive, you lose your license permanently.
It's every man's right to destroy themselves.
As long as they don't hurt others doing it.
AccursedTheory said:
Ugh.

Nicotine is NOT as addictive as heroin. Whens the last time you saw a quitting smoker break out in hives and start seeing things?

Weed is not as addict as tobacco, but it can be addictive.
Nicotine is more addictive than heroine.
It's just that the doses people take are on completely different scales.
There's just a miniscule amount of nicotine in cigarettes compared to the amount of heroin in, say, a strip of heroin.
And marijuana isn't chemically addictive at all.

Let's try learning facts before we make stuff up, hm?
 

Roel

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I live in the Netherlands, so there's really no need for me to weigh in on this debate. Cannabis is already legal and regulated here, and still there are no deaths attributed to cannabis consumption, nor is the percentage of people using cannabis considerably higher than in countries where it is illegal. However, this does not mean that cannabis is all good. It's been proven that the smoke from cannabis is more damaging to your lungs than tobacco smoke. Also, while not conclusively proven, cannabis has been linked to schizophrenia, bipolar disorder and other mental disorders.

In the Netherlands, cannabis is considerably stronger than marijuana in other countries, and therefor is getting closer everyday to becoming a hard drug. It is not a hard drug yet, whereas nicotine and alcohol are.

Everyone has the right to choose to destroy their bodies and lives with these hard drugs, and I think everyone should have the right to destroy their bodies and lives with these hard drugs. Nobody should, but everyone should be able to. That's freedom. Why impede freedom when it comes to something relatively harmless?
 

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Sjakie said:
I hope they would still use LSD as a therapy drug but not really legalize it for recreational use.
I think LSD has the potential to really change you, combine a session of 6-10 hours on LSD with a Therapist and i think any disorders you had would be gone.
Right, because going on a "trip" and seeing Pink Unicorns is the perfect solution to peoples problems, They'd just get addicted.

In my opinion, Marijuana is the ONLY drug (so far) that i can see being legalized with any chance because it's not as dangerous as people make it out to be.
 

Rylingo

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It really depends on the country and drug in question. In America, were weed use is so high i can definitely see an argument for legalizing it.
 

Hungry Donner

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I think marijuana should be legalized. Personally I think it's pretty horrible stuff, but no worse than cigarettes or alcohol. At least if its legalized it's easier to regulate and track, and the ability to tax it has its advantages.

As for other drugs, I think possession should be decriminalized but distribution should remain illegal. This doesn't make the use of drugs acceptable but it does remove the criminal penalties for seeking treatment.

I realize one of the reasons I support marijuana legalization is to make it easier to regulate, which would be advantageous for any narcotic. However fully legalizing something also makes it more socially acceptable and I think that's a dangerous move for hardcore drugs.


I'd strongly suggest people on both sides of this debate check out Portugal's drug laws. Here's a wikipedia article on their drug policy, it also contains some good links for those interested in it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy_of_Portugal
 

tzimize

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AccursedTheory said:
tzimize said:
Oh yeah, dont misunderstand. I dont want heroin legalized at all. But are you sure cannabis is more addictive than nicotine? I'm pretty sure I read in some science magazine that nicotine is as addictive as heroin (or as difficult to quit taking) you just dont get addicted that quick.
Ugh.

Nicotine is NOT as addictive as heroin. Whens the last time you saw a quitting smoker break out in hives and start seeing things?

Weed is not as addict as tobacco, but it can be addictive.
I know you dont get the same effects from stopping to take the drugs...heroin is a more serious drug than nicotine I am not stupid. But I am thinking of for example successrate in quitting heroin vs nicotine for example.

I'm not saying they are equal but nicotine was listed as one of the most addictive substances known to man in Illustrert Vitenskap, a science magazine in my country. Its not a hack magazine so there must be some truth to it.
 

Billion Backs

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None. Even the "lighter" drugs can make you motivated to try the heavier stuff and then you're hooked, no turning back.

Our society have enough problem with smokers and drinkers already. Our government (Sweden) uses taxmoney to give junkies clean needles, I mean what the fuck...

Yes I know that it is to make them stop spreading HIV and other diseases but if you're so down in your shit than it's better you just drop down and die.
Yeah, the same old "slippery slope" argument.

There is NO proof that lighter drugs somehow force you to try "the heavier stuff" and there will never be one.

Saying that, say, pot, makes you try crack is pretty much like saying that drinking milk motivates you to drink beer.

Reading Chuck Palanhiuk's "Fight Club" might "motivate" me to start an anarchic cult and commit various acts of terrorism - but for that, I'd need a conscious decision which I would be responsible for. And I think knowledge of things should definitely be available no matter how damaging these things might be.

What you're suggesting with drugs is a lot like abstinence crap that I hear happens a lot in USA. The idea that if you don't teach people about something, they won't do it. Especially something so ingrained in society and "humanity" as we see it - and various drugs, mostly alcohol, had important place in most societies for the past, oh I don't know, couple of thousand years.

And it's a really interesting idea you have there, that people who are practically incurable at this time should be just killed off. Not that I'm that against it, but the majority of people probably is and for a reason.
 

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I hate alcohol... but I am quite partial to a doobie.
Marajuana would benefit greatly from legalization as both a recreational drug, relaxant, pain killer and even use in psycological therapy.

I also think that the title "soft drugs" should be changed to "Cosmic Spices".
 

Mechsoap

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i think legimate evrything you smoke, meaning outletting heroin and cocaine since it kills people more
 

Billion Backs

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captainfluoxetine said:
Billion Backs said:
Saying that, say, pot, makes you try crack is pretty much like saying that drinking milk motivates you to drink beer.
I used to drink skimmed. Now I'm on Whole Cream :(
I used to drink skimmed milk too... Now I'm on chocolate =O

We should start an organization to warn people of dangers of milk!
 

Ickorus

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I really REALLY hate drugs but i still think they should legalize them in a way that the government has full control over what people get.

In the long run i think it would reduce drug related crime and death.
 

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dragon_of_red said:
Yeah, so i dont really think they should legalise drugs.

Why i hear you ask?

I have no idea, but i dont really want to get high and ive heard its quite bad for your health.
So you don't want to take drugs yourself, but you still think it should be illegal so no-one else can?
Of course they're bad for your health, you know what else is? Tobacco, Alcohol and fast food, i don't see them being illegalized do you?
 

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Roel said:
In the Netherlands, cannabis is considerably stronger than marijuana in other countries, and therefor is getting closer everyday to becoming a hard drug. It is not a hard drug yet, whereas nicotine and alcohol are.
As a fellow Dutchman, I agree with this statement, but I do feel I need to complement it. Over here we have the separation between "soft drugs" like marijuana, magic truffles, salvia divinorum and peyote (but sadly, shrooms are no longer on that side of the fence) and "hard drugs" which is pretty much everything else excluding alcohol and tobacco, although these would technically qualify as hard drugs but are legal due to social acceptance.

Soft drugs are drugs which will not lead to any real physical or mental addiction. That's why marijuana, although getting higher THC-values all the time, will never be a true hard drug. The shit's getting heavier, but it's not getting more addictive.

As for drugs I'd like to legalize? Well, here's a list:

2C-B (and the other 2C's)
MDMA (ecstacy) and its clone-brothers like methylone (which isn't legal, nor illegal).
LSD

Why? Well, because I like to use these substances already. Would be nice if they're legal, too. Plus, they're not deadly or truly dangerous by themselves.