Duke Nukem is fun and funny, shame on Escapist

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Smooth Operator

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Well some people are easily pleased, others are not.

It seems "ignorance is bliss" can be applied to any situation.
 

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Vandenberg1 said:
Ok, before I HEAR A MILLION... It suck please play through it first. (small duke in car thingy was hard lame at first but still funny) If you never played the old games I can see why you wouldn't like it but I am digging it alot. Kinda bland at first, but environment changes from casinos, to Ocean bases to alien hives...Just good classic shooting. Not worth hype and the price tag but I'm glad I bought it, hell Its just funny as hell. Its almost REFRSSHING to have Duke back as a character after playing soooo many failed attempts at makingbland shooters dramatic *points to Gears of War!* Basically the shooting is just like Halo, but I'd argue Duke is a better character then Chief by far.

I realllyyyy hope they do another Duke game, one that didn't have to be just a vamped up 1998 shooter with updated graphics, but I like what it is... for what it tried to do. I mean Gearbox said WE ARE JUST FINISHING WHAT TOOK 12 YEARS to do. It has old style shooting which is alot of dumb enemies charging at you, but after the initial problems I find alot to enjoy here.
I agree with you, and you can read my opinion here: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.291283-Hypnotic-reviews-Duke-Nukem-Forever#11590762

It's a shame no one seems to give it a shot.
 

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I agree, DNF is absolutly fun.
And fun is exactly what I play it for.

Vibhor said:
Vandenberg1 said:
stupid modern editions? Like the gambling or slapping wall tits? HOw about the doing curl ups in the mirror to make "ego" bar increase? (lol)

classic shooting: Here I MEANT that its not cover based like Gears or Call of Duty.. or every new FPS these days. Enemies teloport around, or charge and you run/ dodge and shoot or punch or throw feces back.
It is cover based
You die horribly without cover. Dodging enemy attacks is almost impossible and the game discourages the very famous tactic known as circle strafing in the single player(except bosses)
The game just isn't run and gun. The weapon lack enough ammo to go charging around in crazy. Not to mention I just cannot carry more than 2 weapons. That is exactly what we call shit design.
Explain how the two weapon and regenerative health helps the game?
Pigcops drop more than enough weapons with ammo to go around.
Just don't expect them to drop ammo for for your Devastator.
But if you use pistols, shotguns and rippers, there's more than enough ammo to run & gun.
Sure, you'll die without cover, if you're outnumbered a million to 1.
But if there's only 10 Pigcops (which are all easily reachable and not on some balcony) you can almost runs straight up to them and melee them 1 by 1.
For enemies with really powerfull attack I too would recommend getting behind cover.

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Super Toast said:
No, it was absolute garbage. I've played through it, and I found it to be an absolutely irredeemable piece of shit. Apparently, more people think it was bad than good. A quick look at Metacritic is a good indicator.
weren't you pony guys all about love? ...

on topic ..

personally being in the 20+ category i liked it, the intro music alone gave goosebumps, blatant fan service to people like me and it worked. It was just a nostalgia trip and it WORKED, some of the pop culture references were funny others were worth a smile cause they reminded me of the old days.

Everyone talks about the walltits, i didnt even see them and i only knew about the poo throwing cause it was on a loadscreen. Havent seen anyone talk about punching Christian Bale guy in the face, wonder how many people just repeat what theyve read instead of experiencing stuff themselves.

In the end i much prefer dodging a barrel a flying octopus throws at me than shooting yet another asian/arab/russian/nazi
The walltits can be found in on alien walls, usually near women ad eggs.
The look like the tripple tits from the alien queen boss.
 

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I didn't enjoy it, the controls are far too poor for the shooting sections and it contains far too many jumping puzzles for a first person shooter. It plays like what it is, a which had it's concept laid down in the late 1990s.

On a side note, surely I'm not the only one who found the whole 'tentacle rape' thing in The Hive disconcerting? What was even more disconcerting was Duke's nonchalant reaction. "Looks like you're fucked."

He's a relic of a distant age.

I'd hoped DNF was going to take us away from the endless dirge of 'real' FPS games, looks like I was wrong.

Where the chuff is the next Half Life, eh?
 

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Rex Dark said:
Pigcops drop more than enough weapons with ammo to go around.
Just don't expect them to drop ammo for for your Devastator.
But if you use pistols, shotguns and rippers, there's more than enough ammo to run & gun.
Sure, you'll die without cover, if you're outnumbered a million to 1.
But if there's only 10 Pigcops (which are all easily reachable and not on some balcony) you can almost runs straight up to them and melee them 1 by 1.
For enemies with really powerfull attack I too would recommend getting behind cover.
They don't even drop ammo for shrinkray.Not to mention mighty boot is gone too. And you still die when it is 3 vs 1. This all is madness. It seems you do not know what previous game was like.
 

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Vibhor said:
Rex Dark said:
Pigcops drop more than enough weapons with ammo to go around.
Just don't expect them to drop ammo for for your Devastator.
But if you use pistols, shotguns and rippers, there's more than enough ammo to run & gun.
Sure, you'll die without cover, if you're outnumbered a million to 1.
But if there's only 10 Pigcops (which are all easily reachable and not on some balcony) you can almost runs straight up to them and melee them 1 by 1.
For enemies with really powerfull attack I too would recommend getting behind cover.
They don't even drop ammo for shrinkray.Not to mention mighty boot is gone too. And you still die when it is 3 vs 1. This all is madness. It seems you do not know what previous game was like.
You die in 3 vs 1?
Well, I've still only play on normal so I don't know what it's like on the harder difficulties.
And you're right, I haven't played the previous games.
I would play it if I ever bothered to figure out DOSbox.
 

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Vandenberg1 said:
Just the humour wins... I mean

Hey Duke Here is your power armor (Master chief's outfit) "power armor is for pussies" he says.

One guy ran up too me looking like Marcus pheonixsaying howhe had to find a fags dead wife for 8hours lolololol

" Thats one deaddd space marine" Duke says to a soldiers body with the dead space helmet on haha
Sadly that joke falls flat on its arse considering Duke himself ~used~ armour in DN3D, he's being a hypocrite, not a smartass. Not to mention the "joke" had no relevance because when DNF went Gold, Master Chief hadn't been in a game for four years.

And take this for consideration: Duke regains his ego by being a coward. =p
 

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Pedro The Hutt said:
Vandenberg1 said:
Just the humour wins... I mean

Hey Duke Here is your power armor (Master chief's outfit) "power armor is for pussies" he says.

One guy ran up too me looking like Marcus pheonixsaying howhe had to find a fags dead wife for 8hours lolololol

" Thats one deaddd space marine" Duke says to a soldiers body with the dead space helmet on haha
Sadly that joke falls flat on its arse considering Duke himself ~used~ armour in DN3D, he's being a hypocrite, not a smartass. Not to mention the "joke" had no relevance because when DNF went Gold, Master Chief hadn't been in a game for four years.

And take this for consideration: Duke regains his ego by being a coward. =p
hahaha! true, but the armor wasn't power armor. Not the point really, just random pop culture jokes that I thought were funny only because it fits the game I think.
 

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Well I think DNF was shit gameplay and graphic-wise.
I also think Gears of War is great.
I guess we disagree about certain things, but I don't make a thread complaining about other's opinions.
Oddly enough my captcha had "Opinion" in it.
 

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Vibhor said:
Rex Dark said:
Pigcops drop more than enough weapons with ammo to go around.
Just don't expect them to drop ammo for for your Devastator.
But if you use pistols, shotguns and rippers, there's more than enough ammo to run & gun.
Sure, you'll die without cover, if you're outnumbered a million to 1.
But if there's only 10 Pigcops (which are all easily reachable and not on some balcony) you can almost runs straight up to them and melee them 1 by 1.
For enemies with really powerfull attack I too would recommend getting behind cover.
They don't even drop ammo for shrinkray.Not to mention mighty boot is gone too. And you still die when it is 3 vs 1. This all is madness. It seems you do not know what previous game was like.
They don't drop ammo for the Shrink Ray because it would overpower the whole game, you're supposed to just use it for tougher enemies.
Mighty Boot is in there, or at the very least a reference to it with the monster truck you drive being called Mighty Boot.
If you died in 3 v 1 then I'm sorry but that's your problem not the game's. I went through on Come Get Some and as long as I kept a shotgun on me and used the environment I didn't die an abnormal amount.
 

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I am of the Opinion that much like O J Simpson's Burglary trial, Duke Nukem forever will not get a fair vote from critics, simply because of the extended development time. To many people will treat it as a game that has been in development for 15 years as opposed to a game in development for three years, as is the case with Forever in its released form.

I also Remember Duke Nukem 3D being blasted by critics for much of the same blowhard, sexist humor people are focusing now, and Duke 3D is looked at fondly as an innovator in First Person Shooting.

now as for players, this is where we are going to find people who "Get it" and people who do not. to often these days the first, and now Third Person Shooter is seen simply as a medium for online Multiplayer. so I am as a player going to toss out the reviews of other players who focused strictly on the mechanics. much like Borderlands before, Duke is largely a single player game devoted to catharsis and the chance to live in a world and do things that you could not in real life. think Grand Theft Auto only without the player induced civilian massacres.

Look at another game, Eat Lead: the Return of Matt Hazard. the game play was formula, but the narrative was pure parody. players who blasted it for bland controls missed the point completely, it was almost a video game as if produced by Mel Brooks. I think Duke will in the end fall under the same category.
 

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Duke Nukem Forever is simply Halo with worse combat and saturated with Duke Nukem imagery to the point where the game was practically screaming "I'm not Halo!"

When Duke3D came out, it fleshed out aspects seen in other FPS games such as circle strafing and exploration as well as bringing out some new ideas such as full surround combat (Where the heck am I getting hit? Oh, above me) and proper 3 dimensional combat with flying and multi platform combat. Duke Nukem Forever brought nothing new nor really fleshed out anything that hasn't been done before better.

As for the humour, while it's subjective and not really arguable it's tasteless, that is part of what separates DN from other games. The problem is that with DN3D, the humour is well timed and actually can produce at least a snicker. DNF on the other hand throws it all over the place to the point where I was getting tired of Duke saying the one liners all the time and he still had the best delivery of any character in the game (compare Duke to the loser marine who can't say two words without a swear coming out). Then there's also the stuff he says to the captured women. That was not in DN3D and for good reason. It really crossed the line.

Which brings us to the ending. Apparently they couldn't even come up with a halfway decent ending in of themselves so they do a cheap ass knock off of the WHAM moment in Modern Warfare. That was pathetic.

Over all, if it was not a Duke Nukem game, it would have simply been just another annually generated from formula modern FPS that would be largely forgotten in a few weeks. The promotions however painted it as a throwback to DN3D and it failed miserably, with not much there defining it as a DN game and what was there that was DN being over saturated and poorly done. So I repeat, not really a Duke Nukem game but more of a modern shooter with Duke Nukem plastered all over it.
 

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FlyAwayAutumn said:
I own it just to own it.

It does suck kinda hard but it has this childish charm that I like. Plus it's just dumb fun.
My opinion.

I played it just to say I did, and then I found it was actually fun.

Not in a, "oh this is good game way' but in A "TAKE THAT YOU BASTARDS" type of way.
 

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scully745 said:
They don't drop ammo for the Shrink Ray because it would overpower the whole game, you're supposed to just use it for tougher enemies.
Mighty Boot is in there, or at the very least a reference to it with the monster truck you drive being called Mighty Boot.
If you died in 3 v 1 then I'm sorry but that's your problem not the game's. I went through on Come Get Some and as long as I kept a shotgun on me and used the environment I didn't die an abnormal amount.
Overpower the whole game? Did you think before typing that?
Also, the game is less fun then DN3D. I died because I was having fun.
It is retarded that you cannot carry more than two weapons. Also, it is the games fault that I kept dying because DUKE DOESN'T FUCKING DIE AFTER 3 SHOTGUN BLASTS!
 

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Vandenberg1 said:
LakeofWater said:
The game is boring, plays like crap, and should've been released in 2002. GBX's previous games were all great, except this one. No need to make excuses to justify your spent money if you enjoyed it, but don't go making claims that simply aren't true.

Or this guy will eat you
Dide he die? I miss Undertakers Possee of wrestling weirdos...Minion..
Thankfully no, he's just fatter than ever. Occasionally he would do a tour for All Japan Pro Wrestling, as Big Daddy V, under the Voodoo Murders stable. Now that they've disbanded, due to an actual backstage fight, things are up in the air for him.
Here he is in 2010, against former Shootfighter Masakatsu Funaki:
As you can see, his wrestling ability hasn't improved one iota...
But what more can you ask of a monster heel?
 

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I enjoyed the game if only for the character and the jokes.
The gameplay and graphics weren't that spectacular and waiting for a game for 14 years just to receive something mediocre is going to sour a LOT of opinions. I too was annoyed by the regenerating health/the 2 weapon limit but it wasn't going to make me rage, I could deal with it (Still would of preferred a Duke Nukem: Manhattan Project style of Ego health). My major gripes come from the long loading times (which get worse with several bosses near the end) and the "My Digs" section of the multiplayer (C'mon! I have to play through days of tedious levelling up just so I can play through what could of easily been a playable epilogue!)

Overall it felt like Gearbox took the tablescraps from 3D Realms and stitched it together to make something playable. From playing Borderlands and the Half-Life expansions I know that they can do better. All I can hope is that Gearbox listen to the main complaints and get around to making another Duke Nukem game from scratch which corrects them (Just hope it doesn't take them 14 fucking years)

As for shaming The Escapist? It's all a matter of opinion, if you liked the game then you like it, but nobody else has to.
 

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Zhukov said:
No it wasn't. Shame on you.

...

You see the problem here?
This is the problem with fanboys and why we need people like Yahtzee to ruin the disease called "hype" that constantly gets spread like the Bubonic Plague by E3.
 

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The title reminds me of Ren screaming "WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DON'T AGREE WITH ME?! DO YOU KNOW WHO YOU'RE DEALING WITH". I thought it was kinda lame and I wasn't even one of the people who waited twelve years for it.