Bioware are developers, not producers.Hashime said:Ubisoft is screwing its customers, and now EA is as well. If valve or bioware decides to do something like the other two I may have to kill myself
What you did was noble, epecially after seeing EA crying, dirty, and surrounded by those bigger boys.Julianking93 said:And just when I stood up for EA today, they do some shit like this.
Yeah, when they removed the retarded securom DRM from their games. That was a nice step forward.lostzombies.com said:EA have taken a step forward lol?Irridium said:Oh EA... you take 1 step forward and 2 steps back...
This could get people to, you know, not buy your games so they don't have to deal with this crap? Ever think of that?
History of EA: Hitler and Dr Mengele escaped Germany in 1945, fled to Argentina with help from the odessa network and the catholic church, helped run South American dictatorships until the 80s. Growing bored with world domination they founded EA.
True...and Viva Le resistence!The Hairminator said:Bioware are developers, not producers.Hashime said:Ubisoft is screwing its customers, and now EA is as well. If valve or bioware decides to do something like the other two I may have to kill myself
If valve starts fucking with us, however, it's revolution time.
Great way of putting it. I guess I haven't.Marmooset said:What you did was noble, epecially after seeing EA crying, dirty, and surrounded by those bigger boys.Julianking93 said:And just when I stood up for EA today, they do some shit like this.
You just hadn't seen EA drop the kitty into the wood chipper, that's all.
So that's it?Runding said:I'm going to play devil's advocate and say that from a financial point of view it makes perfect sense for EA to take this approach.
Used games sales = no profit for EA, so they are fighting back.
They are offering DLC for online pass for $10.00, which still gives you the option to play online.
As others have pointed out, I think it's only a matter of time before other companies take this approach.
Amen. Perfectly said.scobie said:Fortunately, we don't live in an anarcho-capitalist society and "it turns a profit" cannot be offered as a justification for a corporation to do whatever the hell it wants just because it's good for them.
You're preaching to the choir dude, 'cause I support used game sales. Hence why I was saying EA can STFU and stop whining.RebellionXXI said:What about the poor guy who never got a chance to buy Madden 2010 (or whatever) and a year or so later he wants to pick it up? He goes on Amazon, or to Gamestop, or his buddy, and gets a used copy for $20. Now he can't play multiplayer.canadamus_prime said:I usually never buy used games, but I still say "Screw you too EA"
Nah it still smacks of rich guys whining because they're not as rich as they could be.MetallicaRulez0 said:This is a good strategy by EA. Stick it to GameStop without hurting it's fans at all. Anyone that actually cares about the industry will pay the extra 5 bucks to buy a NEW game.
TO EA: You're richer then I'll ever be *****, so STFU!
I can understand them having a stick up their butts about piracy, but used game players are just buying/trading for games that have been legitimately purchased. If they don't want to pay an extra $25 (for older games, that's often the price difference vs. brand new at release) for a shiny coat of shrink wrap and that new instruction manual smell, I think they should have the right to do so, ESPECIALLY FOR GAMES THAT ARE OUT OF PRINT!
Between this and DRM, I think Shamus Young is going to have plenty to complain about on Experienced Points over the next few weeks.
I agree 100%. Companies that follow the EA business model can go fuck themselves. What they are doing in regard to used games benefits no one aside from themselves and has the potential to be devastating for industry retailers which would cost tens of thousands of people their jobs. Of course, developers that actually matter would probably never think of doing something like this, which is why people will continue to support companies like Capcom and Konami.Brotherofwill said:So that's it?Runding said:I'm going to play devil's advocate and say that from a financial point of view it makes perfect sense for EA to take this approach.
Used games sales = no profit for EA, so they are fighting back.
They are offering DLC for online pass for $10.00, which still gives you the option to play online.
As others have pointed out, I think it's only a matter of time before other companies take this approach.
Ofcourse it makes sense for them. Pretty logical decision really. What bothers me is how openly they just roll with this, not many people seem to care. It's a definite lose/lose situation for gamers, if this gets famous it's going to go across with all major publishers and thus most mainstream games resulting in less (even fucking less) ownership of the product for the consumer and a serious hit to the used games market. Imagine if in 10 years time you'll have to think twice about picking up classics because you might have to pay something extra in some strange sheme to make you pay for what you have already bought. Screw that.
I don't think what they are doing is right. It's a big "Fuck You" to people that pick up old sports games, or atleast after a few months which I tend to do. I get it if publishers put extra goodies in new, pre-ordered copies to keep the used games a bit down but actually removing features from the main product? No, sir. I won't buy their games again, even though I tend to buy around 2-3 sports games a year. PES 2011, let's go.
Amen. Perfectly said.scobie said:Fortunately, we don't live in an anarcho-capitalist society and "it turns a profit" cannot be offered as a justification for a corporation to do whatever the hell it wants just because it's good for them.
Not to dispute your main point, but sports games do have a certain appeal.arc1991 said:doesn't affect me at all, i hate sports games ^_^, if i want to play football or golf, i'll do it with my friends, i refuse to control 11 people kicking a useless football into a virtual goal...when i could simply kick a real ball into a real goal and get much better praise for it.
however, for people who do play sports games...ouch...kick in the balls or what?