Elder Scrolls Mmo yet another Franchise ruined
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Pretty much everyone I've talked to BEFORE THIS WAS EVEN A RUMOUR thought it would be a great idea.
Because we like the WORLD. Not the specific story, or the quests. We like the lore, and the scenery, and the world in general. And we want to explore the worlds with our friends. Because they're fucking awesome.
Because we like the WORLD. Not the specific story, or the quests. We like the lore, and the scenery, and the world in general. And we want to explore the worlds with our friends. Because they're fucking awesome.
Hello, my name is Fargoth[footnote]name changed to protect the identity of the innocent[/footnote] and I am an immersoholic. It's been a whole month since I was immersed. I slipped, I was weak and I slipped. I had been clean for almost three months before that day. I thought I could control it. I thought I was cured. But the truth is that you're never cured - it's a constant struggle to not give in. I learned that the hard way.SajuukKhar said:
A month ago I thought I would just launch Morrowind for five minutes. I didn't even want to play - earlier that day, at work, I had gotten into a friendly argument with a colleague about what the name of one of the NPCs in Balmora was. We ended up making a bet. So when I came home, I fixed dinner, as always, turned the TV on, checked my email and without even thinking I launched Morrowind. I was keeping it there, on my desktop, laughing at it every day, thinking I was strong enough. I wasn't. I didn't even consider looking for the name online, I just thought I'd quickly run over to Balmora, look it up, and phone my friend to bring the money tomorrow.
I didn't even notice where the next six hours went. At one moment I was heading to the silt strider and next thing I know I...my character was sneaking behind a bandit ready to slit his throat because all bandits are scum, see bandits took his family...I'm sorry. So there I was staring at the screen where my character was going to murder somebody. I dimly remember him killing other people. Other bandits. Laughing. Feeling happy. I yanked my hands off the keyboard with disgust. What had I become?
I quickly shut down the PC - I just yanked the power cord. I couldn't bear to look at the screen again. Then I looked through the room. The TV was still on the same channel and a romantic comedy was running. I hate those. I cannot stand to watch them. My dinner was already cold and untouched just a couple of paces of where I had been standing until a few moments ago. The feeling of disgust overwhelmed me - I just curled into a ball and wept. What had I done?
Immersion is a *****. Immersion took my family and friends away from me.
A game i know nothing about is going to suck because i know nothing about it. Is pretty much all im taking from this thread.
Nice informed judgement you got there, need to get me one of those. Unless you were over exaggerating and mocking the stereotype moronic forum users who create these kind of posts, hmm. *Strokes beard*
I could see it working as an MMO, but I would prefer more of the core Elder Scrolls games to it. However, it's being developed by a separate dev, so I'm just going to consider it a spinoff and judge once we have some hard facts and gameplay footage.
Even if it's the worst game ever made, how does it ruin the franchise? Christ, you people are mind-blowing. You don't even know a damn thing about the game.
Warcraft One was a single player game (Bnet wasn't around) and yet it made the most popular MMO ever.Sixcess said:
I have to qualify here that I haven't played Skyrim yet, nor do I have extensive experience with MMO's. I have, however, read the articles about TES MMO, which means I have EXACTLY the same amount of information as all the people who are angry about this. When it comes right down to it, the publishers will do whatever we allow them to get away with, and our money tells them where we want the industry to go. With all the money that gets sunk into MMOs, compared to the amount put into single player experiences, they will try to force the online world into any game.
Having said all that, based on the previous TES series, I think that it is actually quite suited to the style. Take away the "chosen one" aspect and it makes sense that multiple people would be attempting to save the kingdom/world/their own asses.
The only way to ensure that TES single-player games continue and MMOs die out is to ensure that it is more profitable for them to create the series games rather than the perpetual world. As with all problems in the gaming industry (really in the entertainment industry in general) is to let them know, with our wallets, what we really want. If the current trends that we all hate so much prove to be profitable they will continue to do it.
Having said all that, based on the previous TES series, I think that it is actually quite suited to the style. Take away the "chosen one" aspect and it makes sense that multiple people would be attempting to save the kingdom/world/their own asses.
The only way to ensure that TES single-player games continue and MMOs die out is to ensure that it is more profitable for them to create the series games rather than the perpetual world. As with all problems in the gaming industry (really in the entertainment industry in general) is to let them know, with our wallets, what we really want. If the current trends that we all hate so much prove to be profitable they will continue to do it.
Hello and welcome to the internet! But in all honesty I agree I think we should at least wait for some actual gameplay to be shown until we be so harsh toward it. I actually really enjoy the old republic (don't worry I have my flame-retardent suit on) so this might not end up completely shit.Terminate421 said:
It's just beyond too early to be calling "betrayal" or "ruination of the franchise" with this move, though I will admit I'm against it. My reasons for that, however, are akin to just being very concerned right now. The prospect of a Elder Scrolls MMO is not a new concept to be discussed, and each time it's brought up, I get another wrinkle in my brow.
Skyrim was probably one of the series' most successful games, but it's not even a year old. Going MMO is a massive risk and undertaking that requires a staggering amount of time, money, effort, and manpower to complete and thus is a decision that cannot ever be made so lightly. The Elder Scrolls series is very popular, but I honestly don't think that's enough to compete in the MMO market.
I mean, the Old Republic was in production for years with shocking and beautiful CGI trailers released at every E3 event that were made specifically to gradually hype it up until its anticipated release. And then there's the beta they made months before the actual release. Everything Bioware did was to steadily grow a fanbase that could guarantee a decent MMO-sized number of players from day one. Compare that to just announcing "Yeah! Elder Scrolls MMO guys! ... Expect it!" It completely falls flat!
Guys, I won't say the series is "ruined"... but I'm worried.
Skyrim was probably one of the series' most successful games, but it's not even a year old. Going MMO is a massive risk and undertaking that requires a staggering amount of time, money, effort, and manpower to complete and thus is a decision that cannot ever be made so lightly. The Elder Scrolls series is very popular, but I honestly don't think that's enough to compete in the MMO market.
I mean, the Old Republic was in production for years with shocking and beautiful CGI trailers released at every E3 event that were made specifically to gradually hype it up until its anticipated release. And then there's the beta they made months before the actual release. Everything Bioware did was to steadily grow a fanbase that could guarantee a decent MMO-sized number of players from day one. Compare that to just announcing "Yeah! Elder Scrolls MMO guys! ... Expect it!" It completely falls flat!
Guys, I won't say the series is "ruined"... but I'm worried.
Because its Bethesda. The only thing they ever do correctly is making random things happen, for the worse or the better. Well that and hype, oh god the hype.Terminate421 said:
It won't hold anyones attention, more then likely, because they can't have the community make content for free anymore, thus they'll have to and probably make the new content more glitchy then any mod.
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Same thing I said earlier, Bethesda is only decent at making a single player action game, I don't give a fuck, the Elder Scrolls Series is not a RPG because its missing any sense of immersion to be one.
If they actually try and make a MMO they'll have to get rid of modding, thus their MMO loses life span off the bat. Bugs will drive people off. Most likely Subscription to rake in cash. And finally, the stale combat and PVP will cause people to have to walk away.
It won't beat WoW at the fantasy train because more then likely their going to be riding the coat-tales of ToR.
From just this past September [http://www.destructoid.com/bethesda-not-interested-in-elder-scrolls-mmo-210360.phtml]. Not that I'm really complaining. It's just funny, is all.
The Old Republic MMO sucked, since it eliminated any chance of a true follow-up to Knights of the Old Republic II (both the Revan novel and what I hear of The Old Republic are incongruous with the story of Knights of the Old Republic II. So if I have to pick one as "the real thing", I'm going with the story of Kreia and The Exile).
But I find the lore of The Elder Scrolls too dull to really fuss over this.
The Old Republic MMO sucked, since it eliminated any chance of a true follow-up to Knights of the Old Republic II (both the Revan novel and what I hear of The Old Republic are incongruous with the story of Knights of the Old Republic II. So if I have to pick one as "the real thing", I'm going with the story of Kreia and The Exile).
But I find the lore of The Elder Scrolls too dull to really fuss over this.
Okay, I can look at the new DMC, see the name of the developers and say it's probably going to ruin to francise. But one look at a ES MMO that's made (mostly, I'm assuming) by devs that worked on the earlier games and have spent years on it, while planning on spending another one yet and you think it's forever ruined?
Now if Bethesda announced that future Elder Scroll games would only be MMOs I might (might) agree with you.
Now if Bethesda announced that future Elder Scroll games would only be MMOs I might (might) agree with you.