Escape to the Movies: Inglourious Basterds

[DigitalSushi]

Also, can I put a question out?, regarding the Jew's, ermm anyone here a Jew that has seen it or heard of the plot line to the film?, and how do you feel about Jew's being portrayed in such a way?, as killing machines, but probably witty and quick thinking killing machines being a Tarantino movie, but still.

A polish development team build Hidden and Dangerous and, ladies and gentlemen, Mel Brooks...

Between Mel Brooks and Spike Milligan, I think the "underdogs" have been chewing on Hitler's remaining 'nad for some time now.

Well that is true, isn't the majority of Hollywood funded by Semites?, I like the comment Bob made about the Movie being propaganda, essentially in this day and age the media controls the people. its a nice touch by Tarantino to make such a statement in the film, and good of MovieBob to spot it.

I love Mel Brooks stuff, in fact on this very site someone mentioned in the off topic forum about how Mel Brooks was racist against Jews, I can't remember which thread it was but I had to inform the poster that Mel Brooks was a big fat Jew.

Could you elaborate on your "polish hidden and dangerous comment", i'm at a lost, sorry.

 

[Skreeee]

I can't wait! As an editing nerd I always find Tarentino's movies a special treat. Sally Menke knows her shit.

 

[headshotcatcher]

So wait, it's actually good?
That's a surprising turn of events..

+ You should fix the title, isn't it Inglorious Bastards?

Surprising? OK this isn't meant to make me sound like an ass but, how many Tarantino flicks have you seen?

I've seen Pulp Fiction before, it's applauded all over but I kinda hated it. It had like two funny moments as far as my memory goes.

Also, the previews for this movie didn't look interesting at all to me so that's why it's surprising

 

[slipknot4]

So it's a must see?
Well then... I'll watch it then

 

[Katherine Kerensky]

Looks good...
I should consider getting it, seeing as it's been out for most of the week already...
just need to get into town...

 

[Seamus8]

And check it out I shall, thanks again bob.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Could you elaborate on your "polish hidden and dangerous comment", i'm at a lost, sorry.

Hidden and Dangerous [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidden_&_Dangerous] was a stunningly good representation of the Allied's raids into German Territory during WW2, and has an awesome "Get To Da Choppa" mission, although replacing the helicopter with a Lancaster bomber.

The development team [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusion_Softworks] was mostly Polish, and you could tell with some of the names for your guys.

 

[headshotcatcher]

So wait, it's actually good?
That's a surprising turn of events..

+ You should fix the title, isn't it Inglorious Bastards?

Surprising? OK this isn't meant to make me sound like an ass but, how many Tarantino flicks have you seen?

I've seen Pulp Fiction before, it's applauded all over but I kinda hated it. It had like two funny moments as far as my memory goes.

Also, the previews for this movie didn't look interesting at all to me so that's why it's surprising

augh, I'm sorry but why does everybody think that Tarantino is some kind of comedy director and writer. He does great movies with great characters that have some humor peppered throughout the movie. If you want comedy go watch Kevin Smith.

But shouldn't a movie have some suspence in it? Pulp Fiction was blah blah blah blah blah slight action blah guy in gimp suit blah blah blah blah slight action as far as I could tell

 

[Lightbunny]

So wait, it's actually good?
That's a surprising turn of events..

+ You should fix the title, isn't it Inglorious Bastards?

Surprising? OK this isn't meant to make me sound like an ass but, how many Tarantino flicks have you seen?

I've seen Pulp Fiction before, it's applauded all over but I kinda hated it. It had like two funny moments as far as my memory goes.

Also, the previews for this movie didn't look interesting at all to me so that's why it's surprising

augh, I'm sorry but why does everybody think that Tarantino is some kind of comedy director and writer. He does great movies with great characters that have some humor peppered throughout the movie. If you want comedy go watch Kevin Smith.

I don't think it's entirely that, though.

Pulp Fiction did a lot of really original things when it came out. That was in 1994, though. 15 years ago (*insert "holy shit I feel old now" here*). Between then and now, a lot of movies have reused a lot of the devices that were so original in Pulp.

Imagine going through the last 15 years or so, not having seen Pulp Fiction, but being privy to every other similar dialogue-driven movie that has come out since then.

Then imagine watching Pulp Fiction.

Wouldn't be all that amazing, would it?

 

[MovieBob]

this has been edited a few times, as I'm kinda particular about my point here

Well that is true, isn't the majority of Hollywood funded by Semites?, I like the comment Bob made about the Movie being propaganda, essentially in this day and age the media controls the people. its a nice touch by Tarantino to make such a statement in the film, and good of MovieBob to spot it.

Whoa whoa whoa whoa WHOA! Hold on there, friend I imagine you probably didn't mean it to sound as such, but that sounded a LITTLE BIT too close to "the Jews control the media" for my tastes; and since you invoked my name and put a word or two in my mouth, I feel the need to respond and set my own record straight. If you've been misunderstood, feel free to set your own as well

Firstly, I did NOT say that this film is "propaganda," I pointed out that one of it's principal characters is Josef Goebbles, Hitler's Minister OF Propaganda. Secondly, I don't put much stock in "media control the blank" conspiracy stuff of any sort.

Regarding the film's "Jewish vengeance" angle, there's not much to "spot." It's right out there in the open: The film is EXPLICITLY a meant-to-be-enjoyed revenge-fantasy... (seriously, DON'T click that unless you want the mother-of-all-spoilers. I warned you!)

Spoiler

...which invites the audience to participate in an imaginary 'better ending to WWII' scenario wherein instead of DDay-followed-by-Hitler's-suicide, The Nazis and Hitler himself were defeated personally and VIOLENTLY by a team of movie-land good guys most of whom are Jewish and many of whom owe the Nazis personal payback. It allows a Jewish-American GI to cut Hitler to death with a machine gun, and a Holocaust-escapee to condemn HUNDREDS of Nazi bigwigs and their associates to the same fate they consigned hundreds of her people to while laughing triumphantly at their (the Nazis) demise. It's big, bold, unironic payback-for-the-Holocaust-revenge-porn, and it's BEAUTIFUL.

I'm honestly incredibly curious to see how this plays to Jewish audiences (has is opened in Israel yet?), particularly older folks and/or people who had a personal direct connection to WWII and/or the Holocaust itself; since it's kinda setting out to be to them what "Rambo II" was to angry Vietnam veterans...

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Whoa whoa whoa whoa WHOA! Hold it right there, mister.

Cheers for that Bob, I was sort of wondering how to reply to that.

 

[TwistedEllipses]

Tarentino has always been one of my favourite directors. Jackie Brown is one of his neglected titles, so I'm glad that's got a visual look-in as you scrolled over his works.

This is a little off topic, but Goebbels as well as being a thoroughly unlikeable man was actually a big film buff. He took his job as Reich Ministry for Public Enlightenment and Propaganda very seriously. He held off the ban of all foreign films for longer than needed and would try to personally go through as many film scripts as possible giving creative suggestions even though he was qualified to. His favourite film was gone with the wind - and since I hate that film, I'm just going to go ahead and accuse anyone of liking that of being a Nazi...

 

[BlueInkAlchemist]

Not to nitpick Bob, but Tarantino had a bit role in Desperado, and a writing credit in Sin City.

That aside, I really want to see this.

 

[DigitalSushi]

this has been edited a few times, as I'm kinda particular about my point here

Well that is true, isn't the majority of Hollywood funded by Semites?, I like the comment Bob made about the Movie being propaganda, essentially in this day and age the media controls the people. its a nice touch by Tarantino to make such a statement in the film, and good of MovieBob to spot it.

Whoa whoa whoa whoa WHOA! Hold on there, friend I imagine you probably didn't mean it to sound as such, but that sounded a LITTLE BIT too close to "the Jews control the media" for my tastes; and since you invoked my name and put a word or two in my mouth, I feel the need to respond and set my own record straight. If you've been misunderstood, feel free to set your own as well

Firstly, I did NOT say that this film is "propaganda," I pointed out that one of it's principal characters is Josef Goebbles, Hitler's Minister OF Propaganda. Secondly, I don't put much stock in "media control the blank" conspiracy stuff of any sort.

Regarding the film's "Jewish vengeance" angle, there's not much to "spot." It's right out there in the open: The film is EXPLICITLY a meant-to-be-enjoyed revenge-fantasy... (seriously, DON'T click that unless you want the mother-of-all-spoilers. I warned you!)

Oh god, i'm so sorry!, I didn't mean it that way, I really didn't mean to offend, I should really rethink how I communicate myself.

i did mean to offend N'Gai though, he does jump the gun alot when it comes to racist issues.

I didn't say that you said this film was proganda, i think I didn't at least, but what i meant was that media has been used as a propaganda tool, films especially.

And once again, sorry for making it sound like i've put words in your mouth but that was not my intention, I thought it was well known that hollywood was made on Semitic money, I'm not flaming, my Mother told me that when we watched the Emmy's as a child trying to explain a Jew joke on the Emmy's, so being a 12 year old and being told by my mother I took it as gospel.

I'm honestly incredibly curious to see how this plays to Jewish audiences (has is opened in Israel yet?), particularly older folks and/or people who had a personal direct connection to WWII and/or the Holocaust itself; since it's kinda setting out to be to them what "Rambo II" was to angry Vietnam veterans...

Me too, its why I posed my original question.

Cheers for that Bob, I was sort of wondering how to reply to that.

Oi you, your supposed to look out for me when I'm being an idiot!

Anyway, Bob, you took my rubbish comment and dissected it like no other man could, we should call you the "everything Overthinker", or maybe the "shows up dudes on the internet overthinker".

Or something, i'm not that witty, I concide defeat.

 

[MovieBob]

This is a little off topic, but Goebbels as well as being a thoroughly unlikeable man was actually a big film buff.

Indeed. One of the plusses of the film is that it REALLY nails Goebbels psyche and persona in just a handful of scenes. There's some business in there about how Goebbels was more enamored of Selznick than Mayer and how he saw HIS broad/"crowd-pleaser" entertainments as a superior alternative to the "intellectual" cinema of the earlier German filmmakers; and I just COULD NOT get rid of the naggingly grin-inducing thought that, with a few era/localization swaps, that quote could've come out of Michael Bay

One of the things we tend to overlook about the Nazi inner-circle is that, when you get right down to it, a lot of them were basically a bunch of HUGE nerds. Hitler was a discontented art student obsessed with "super-man" persecution fantasies. (There's an EXCELLENT "origin of young Hitler" movie called "Max" that everyone ought to see. John Cusack is in it.) Goebbels was a movie addict. And most of them were obsessed with Wagner's fantasy/mythology operas, obscure pagan arcana and Arthurian myth. Hell, even their whole Aryan/lost-race fixation had waaaaaaaay more basis in fantasy/scifi fiction of the era than it does in any kind of real mythology or history.

 

[MovieBob]

Oh god, i'm so sorry!, I didn't mean it that way, I really didn't mean to offend, I should really rethink how I communicate myself.

Nah, no worries. I figured you didn't, I was more just keeping an eye on my own mention. "Internet," as you may well know, is actually an Ancient Swahilli phrase meaning "Taken Grotesquely Out of Context"

True story: Back when I was first starting out in this game, I did a parody of the cheezy/hyperbolic first trailers for "An Inconvenient Truth" (the ones that called it "The most terrifying film you will EVER SEE!!!") with Al Gore morphing into Captain Planet. I called it "An Inconvenient Spoof," it was so-so, and kinda sat there on the youtubes without much notice.

Several MONTHS later (while I was on internet-free vacation, of course) a story broke about another youtube spoof of the film that was made to look "viral" but was actually made by a Conservative public-relations firm. A national news outlet reported on the story under the headline "An Inconvenient Spoof." So you can imagine the sort of stuff oveflowing my email when I got back home?

 

[Kuliani]

Well darn, I was hoping this was gonna be a non-WW2 epic style action film about some sneaky nazi revenge action. I'm sure it's a great thinking film, but I prefer movies to numb my brain into pure glee, so I'll be passing on this one as well.

I believe that I have determined that what Bob recommends is what I shouldn't go see, and what he hates is definitely something I will enjoy.