European Union vs. North American Union

[Chipperz]

But its obnoxious to even suggest that the EU and the future NAU would go toe to toe. The future of conflict is west + east vs Moslem. Chinese, americans, europeans-- they all want the same thing. The highest standard of living on earth for their people. That and money.

I will graciously not tear this apart if you at least spell the name of the religion right.

 

[Shycte]

Lets count tha nukes?

 

[martin's a madman]

Since when does North America have a union?

It doesn't have a union, it has a free trade agreement. I think he meant IF there were a union.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Union

Yes, theoretical, thank you for finding a source that proved me correct.

 

[martin's a madman]

But its obnoxious to even suggest that the EU and the future NAU would go toe to toe. The future of conflict is west + east vs Moslem. Chinese, americans, europeans-- they all want the same thing. The highest standard of living on earth for their people. That and money.

I will graciously not tear this apart if you at least spell the name of the religion right.

I will graciously decide not to tear anything apart, but Muslims are the people, Islam is the religion.

Also, Moslem is an acceptable name.

 

[JimmerDunda]

Since when does North America have a union?

It doesn't have a union, it has a free trade agreement. I think he meant IF there were a union.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Union

Yes, theoretical, thank you for finding a source that proved me correct.

I don't care this is a theoretical thread anyways, so what does it matter?

 

[Droroet]

We'd all lose.

 

[thiosk]

But its obnoxious to even suggest that the EU and the future NAU would go toe to toe. The future of conflict is west + east vs Moslem. Chinese, americans, europeans-- they all want the same thing. The highest standard of living on earth for their people. That and money.

I will graciously not tear this apart if you at least spell the name of the religion right.

Not a religion, a people; and the word itself is as acceptable as Muslim.

 

[Artinam]

Nice a Huntington: Clash of Civilizations perspective. The time the North American Union gets made I think we will have the United States of Europe with Turkey as the Council president.

I guess the balance between the two continents would be stronger.

 

[Timotei]

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[sneakypenguin]

But its obnoxious to even suggest that the EU and the future NAU would go toe to toe. The future of conflict is west + east vs Moslem. Chinese, americans, europeans-- they all want the same thing. The highest standard of living on earth for their people. That and money.

[/quote]Shhh, the muslim people are a peaceful people, who contribute deeply to modern society.
/liberal attempt. completely ignoring that the religion has a large amount of ideological members who take it to a violent/extreme lvl

Pretty much agreed, if your saying what I believe. A likely war would be the economic powerhouses of the east and west versus the ideological beliefs of a auto/theocracy. Imagine 20 years from now after dependence on oil decreases and the middle eastern states have limited sources of income, the unrest would be high, a leader would be able to foster a deep hatred for the west...

 

[JimmerDunda]

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Pfft. We have had threads with Europeans and Americans at each others throats that were never locked. So far this is somewhat civilized.

 

[llew]

ye but the ground forces are not as well trained as the british forces. ad the american navy is not that great when you think about it...

 

[Timotei]

We'd all lose.

You must make your parents very proud.

 

[llew]

if you count the nukes i say russia even though they arent involved in this thread

 

[thiosk]

if your saying what I believe.

I am saying what you believe. China is much more likely to be a partner of the US and the EU than an enemy, based simply on the economics. China is doing to america today what america did to europe in the 20s.

if you count the nukes i say russia even though they arent involved in this thread

The sum of your posts on this thread suggest that you do not have a very deep understanding of how modern combat works.

 

[bodyklok]

We'd all lose.

/thread.

 

[Steelfists]

But its obnoxious to even suggest that the EU and the future NAU would go toe to toe. The future of conflict is west + east vs Moslem. Chinese, americans, europeans-- they all want the same thing. The highest standard of living on earth for their people. That and money.

Shhh, the muslim people are a peaceful people, who contribute deeply to modern society.
/liberal attempt. completely ignoring that the religion has a large amount of ideological members who take it to a violent/extreme lvl

Pretty much agreed, if your saying what I believe. A likely war would be the economic powerhouses of the east and west versus the ideological beliefs of a auto/theocracy. Imagine 20 years from now after dependence on oil decreases and the middle eastern states have limited sources of income, the unrest would be high, a leader would be able to foster a deep hatred for the west...

Why do people always completely disregard the normal muslim people who want to get on with their goddam lives? Just because the Quran has a verse where a tree helps a muslim cut off a jew's head or some shit doesn't mean they are all violent.

Also, Moslem is not the right spelling. I don't give a fuck if so many people have used it that it appears acceptable, its not correct.

Ignorant fuckers.

 

[Skeleon]

Not a religion, a people; and the word itself is as acceptable as Muslim.

But you do realize that Muslims are not a united entity at all, right? There are various Muslim groups fighting each other in the Middle East and there are a large number of Muslims living peacefully in Europe or America and all over the world.
It could never be a fight against "the Muslims", that doesn't make any sense.

 

[Lord George]

If all of the EU rose up America would be crushed, not just in terms of military support but looking at it economically and socially America couldn't survive without the support and co-operation of the EU. Especially as its likely that Russia and Chine would bring their aid to the EU (well its kind of iffy with China they might just stay neutral.)

Considering the fact the USA(not including canada or mexico) has a larger Navy than the European Union combined, I think you may want to rethink "crushed."

Yes the Americans have more ships (by a small margin), but you have to look at how well trained and experienced they are, the UK navy alone has some of the proudest traditions and strictest training in the world, and has likely the most real combat experience on any large scale in the Falklands, plus many of the ships in the US fleet are aircraft carriers and not actual warships and are spread out around the world. Its a strong Navy but head to head against all of the EU's I'm willing to bet it would be defeated.

 

[FallenRainbows]

Umm America's army is not near the most elite... at all. Also, que smartasses who treat war like a game with pwned, and other such terms.

Notice how I said "military" not "army." USA has the largest and most advanced Air Force and Navy in the world. We also have a large Marine Corps, which rank as some of the best trained soldiers in the world.

Notice how you said, THE most elite military. They do not. Most ADVANCED yes. Most ELITE no. That's between the special forces of which the Seals do not contend with. As for Air force, arguably the Swiss with their mountain flights. Navy I "believe" go to Britain for it's island setting.