Fall of the U.S.?

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gbemery

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awsome117 said:
Less serious 1: We're too lazy to break apart. Would be too much effort for us.
Actually i think that is the more serious reason. Why break apart now when our future generations can do it later.
 

TOGSolid

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Well the governor of Texas did threaten to secede. So there's that.
He didn't threaten, he mentioned. I know it's stupid, but still a huge world of difference.
You just had to ruin my hopes and dreams didn't you? The day Texas stops infecting the rest of the US with its inanities, the better.
 

Thee Prisoner

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Skullkid4187 said:
Xpwn3ntial said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Once we reelect a ACTUAL leader we should do fine.
Is there such a thing in this nation anymore?
Yes, it is the ghosts of Ronald Reagan, Jefferson Davis, George Washington, TJ and Adams, and Harry Truman and these ghost live on in the hearts of our citizens and leaders such as Ron Paul, the one man I know who could turn this country around.
We don't need the ghost of Jefferson Davis around, he did enough damage. George Washington was the richest person in pre-revolution United States and became even richer after his land grab of his British friends after the war. I'm not denouncing his contribution to help form the United States but it did profit him greatly.

I don't have a big problem with Ron Paul. I like some of what he says.

President Obama is more of a leader then President George W. Bush junior. I bet if you asked Ron Paul he would say the same thing.
 

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What I want to know is why he thinks Hawaii would go to Japan or China?
 

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Skullkid4187 said:
The United States will not fall. Many Americans remember we only have 2 years left with a awful leader. Once we reelect a ACTUAL leader we should do fine.
Hey its you, the guy I haven't agreed with yet.
You seriously think Obama fails do you, Tell me how do you expect him to fix everything from the last 8 years in a financial crisis?
The fact that the his healthcare gets blocked by conservatives is enough proof that the congress is opposing him and it isn't his lack of initiative.

Also; considering foreign politics he is a fresh breath of air that lots of countries welcome.
 

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AlphaOmega said:
Skullkid4187 said:
The United States will not fall. Many Americans remember we only have 2 years left with a awful leader. Once we reelect a ACTUAL leader we should do fine.
Hey its you, the guy I haven't agreed with yet.
You seriously think Obama fails do you, Tell me how do you expect him to fix everything from the last 8 years in a financial crisis?
The fact that the his healthcare gets blocked by conservatives is enough proof that the congress is opposing him and it isn't his lack of initiative.

Also; considering foreign politics he is a fresh breath of air that lots of countries welcome.
I don't really care, I still hate America, along with a lot of the rest of the world...

Maybe hate is too strong a word, "strongly dislike"....

Also, that isn't a slur against all Americans, just a lot of them.
 

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hmar9333 said:
AlphaOmega said:
Skullkid4187 said:
The United States will not fall. Many Americans remember we only have 2 years left with a awful leader. Once we reelect a ACTUAL leader we should do fine.
Hey its you, the guy I haven't agreed with yet.
You seriously think Obama fails do you, Tell me how do you expect him to fix everything from the last 8 years in a financial crisis?
The fact that the his healthcare gets blocked by conservatives is enough proof that the congress is opposing him and it isn't his lack of initiative.

Also; considering foreign politics he is a fresh breath of air that lots of countries welcome.
I don't really care, I still hate America, along with a lot of the rest of the world...

Maybe hate is too strong a word, "strongly dislike"....

Also, that isn't a slur against all Americans, just a lot of them.
That's interesting. Where are you from and why do you hate, umm strongly dislike us? We are arrogant bastards just the same as the rest of the world. But we trrrryyyyyy to do the right thing once in a while.
 

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hmar9333 said:
AlphaOmega said:
Skullkid4187 said:
The United States will not fall. Many Americans remember we only have 2 years left with a awful leader. Once we reelect a ACTUAL leader we should do fine.
Hey its you, the guy I haven't agreed with yet.
You seriously think Obama fails do you, Tell me how do you expect him to fix everything from the last 8 years in a financial crisis?
The fact that the his healthcare gets blocked by conservatives is enough proof that the congress is opposing him and it isn't his lack of initiative.

Also; considering foreign politics he is a fresh breath of air that lots of countries welcome.
I don't really care, I still hate America, along with a lot of the rest of the world...

Maybe hate is too strong a word, "strongly dislike"....

Also, that isn't a slur against all Americans, just a lot of them.
I'm from Europe myself, and I have a few good (rl) friends in the US. it gives a good perspective :)
 

Lucifron

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ethaninja said:
Sounds to me like another 2012 steaming pile of shit.
This.

The article was posted December 29th, 2008.

Mr. Panarin posits, in brief, that mass immigration, economic decline, and moral degradation will trigger a civil war next fall and the collapse of the dollar. Around the end of June 2010, or early July, he says, the U.S. will break into six pieces -- with Alaska reverting to Russian control.
Yeah, sure thing Igor. I don't know what kind of Polonium infused Gulag-weed this crock is smoking, but I sure as hell would want some.
 

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The only way the US could fall is if it lost some sort of huge war in a huge way and its territory was conquered/balkanized. Can't see that happening in the foreseeable future.

The parts of the US that are the angriest about such things are the same ones who consider themselves to be the core part of the country. Seceding would not help them prove any point.

Although if there was any chance of the US falling, say hello to the republics of Texas and California. (Pretty sure the US Constitution still allows a state to secede at any time. Come to think of it, if the US was balkanized by an outside force all of the states could secede to reorganize themselves in a way that hurt them less - keeping the farm belt together, etc.)
Great, the Pacific Northwest could finally reorganize itself into the glorious Republic of Cascadia! Well, until annexed by California, of course.

And I'm not a scientist, but I'm pretty damn sure states aren't allowed to secede whenever they want. In fact, I believe the American Civil War happened precisely because some states decided to secede and the federal government took offense to that idea...
 

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Pimppeter2 said:
Uhh, Obama is an islamic fundamentalist communist!
You're doin' it wrong.

"America, experts agree that Obama is the spawn of Hitler and Stalin!"
 

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Skullkid4187 said:
Xpwn3ntial said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Once we reelect a ACTUAL leader we should do fine.
Is there such a thing in this nation anymore?
Yes, it is the ghosts of Ronald Reagan, Jefferson Davis, George Washington, TJ and Adams, and Harry Truman and these ghost live on in the hearts of our citizens and leaders such as Ron Paul, the one man I know who could turn this country around.
If I hadn't heard the Ron Paul savior speech so many times already I would have lawled until I sharted. If Chevy Chase ever got back with SNL he could do the same Ron Paul jokes he did with Reagan decades ago.
 

Thee Prisoner

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Bourne said:
blalien said:
I lived in San Antonio for a year, and I loved it. The people were some of the nicest I've ever met. They also didn't believe in evolution, were completely ignorant of the world outside the south, and kept trying to save my Jewish ass. And they've elected some terrible governors. I'm not saying my personal experience is indicative of the entire Texan population, but I'm not just speaking from ignorance here.
So you are being willfully ignorant? Don't get me wrong, I am not a super patriot ready to stomp on every negative comment about the US or Texas, but I also do not enjoy reading malicious blanket statements about the place I call home.

Also, it sounds like you would probably get along just fine in Austin. Its pretty liberal, while still maintaining an air of Texas conservatism, and there are some pretty amazing Mexican restaurants here to boot.
I traveled quite a bit in Texas(through the company I worked for.), all over the place from small towns to big cities. I found the people very nice, engaging and hospitable. I was invited to many BBQs.(hehe) It is understandable you are loyal to the place you call home.

Texas is a huge area full of many different people, and branding people in a state is wrong. I did come across a lot people people that gave me the Do you believe in Jesus speech.
And many others who were down home country folk who didn't like the Bible thumpers. I met the most ultra-conservative to very liberal but for the most part the people were very nice. Most of the US is similar to that in that they are friendly.

I live in Oregon and most people who haven't been to the Great Northwest believe we are all hippies or rednecks. It's funny when I have out of state friends who visit here and remark how polite the people are and they actually let you merge in traffic etc. I lived all over the US so I have a decent perspective on the various areas. I'm quite proud of the state as well as you should be of Texas.
 

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Pffff Russia has been and is falling apart. Where did those extra countries in Eastern Europe come from? And all those nations in the Caucasus and Asia?

That professor should look at his own country before judging other countries.
 

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fasteddie_felson said:
hmar9333 said:
AlphaOmega said:
Skullkid4187 said:
The United States will not fall. Many Americans remember we only have 2 years left with a awful leader. Once we reelect a ACTUAL leader we should do fine.
Hey its you, the guy I haven't agreed with yet.
You seriously think Obama fails do you, Tell me how do you expect him to fix everything from the last 8 years in a financial crisis?
The fact that the his healthcare gets blocked by conservatives is enough proof that the congress is opposing him and it isn't his lack of initiative.

Also; considering foreign politics he is a fresh breath of air that lots of countries welcome.
I don't really care, I still hate America, along with a lot of the rest of the world...

Maybe hate is too strong a word, "strongly dislike"....

Also, that isn't a slur against all Americans, just a lot of them.
That's interesting. Where are you from and why do you hate, umm strongly dislike us? We are arrogant bastards just the same as the rest of the world. But we trrrryyyyyy to do the right thing once in a while.
Well I'm from Australia, and like I said, I don't 'strongly dislike' a lot/most Americans, but I guess it would have to be

a) My experience with 'some' American tourists
b) Douche-Americans who have no awareness of the world outside of the US (a small percentage, but it's still there) and are somewhat blinded by the American education system (one of my friends thought for a while that London was it's own country and the capital of Australia was New Zealand...)
c) Americans who seem to forget that not everybody lives in the US.

Again, only a small percentage of Americans, but it taints my view of America in general (as much as I don't want it to)
 

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hmar9333 said:
fasteddie_felson said:
hmar9333 said:
AlphaOmega said:
Skullkid4187 said:
The United States will not fall. Many Americans remember we only have 2 years left with a awful leader. Once we reelect a ACTUAL leader we should do fine.
Hey its you, the guy I haven't agreed with yet.
You seriously think Obama fails do you, Tell me how do you expect him to fix everything from the last 8 years in a financial crisis?
The fact that the his healthcare gets blocked by conservatives is enough proof that the congress is opposing him and it isn't his lack of initiative.

Also; considering foreign politics he is a fresh breath of air that lots of countries welcome.
I don't really care, I still hate America, along with a lot of the rest of the world...

Maybe hate is too strong a word, "strongly dislike"....

Also, that isn't a slur against all Americans, just a lot of them.
That's interesting. Where are you from and why do you hate, umm strongly dislike us? We are arrogant bastards just the same as the rest of the world. But we trrrryyyyyy to do the right thing once in a while.
Well I'm from Australia, and like I said, I don't 'strongly dislike' a lot/most Americans, but I guess it would have to be

a) My experience with 'some' American tourists
b) Douche-Americans who have no awareness of the world outside of the US (a small percentage, but it's still there) and are somewhat blinded by the American education system (one of my friends thought for a while that London was it's own country and the capital of Australia was New Zealand...)
c) Americans who seem to forget that not everybody lives in the US.

Again, only a small percentage of Americans, but it taints my view of America in general (as much as I don't want it to)
D:
Oh good lord those kinds of people make me nearly shove my hand through my face I facepalm so hard.
That's another thing that bothers me is that some people here I chat with nearly fall out of their chairs when I tell them there are other people and countries in the world besides the USA. It would be a nice balance if we could keep the patriotism we have now and at the same time respect and acknowledge we're not the only goddamn place on the planet with people on it. :I