Fall of the U.S.?

[SantoUno]

A Russian all the way in Moscow wrote it, how believable do you think this is?

 

[mkg]

Has this retard ever been to America? I have failed to notice the indignant proletariat taking to the streets demanding the blood of the ruling class...

 

[Daverson]

So I was thinking, well, we'll see if he's right in a year or two, won't we? Then I realized it is 2010... I swear, bad sci-fi has led me to believe any date after 2009 is "the future"...

Actually this somewhat reminds me of a millennium forecast special by the Times back in 1999, which foresaw Russia collapsing in a nuclear civil war back in 2003, it also said Scotland would declare independence, we'd have hotels in space and we'd have robot butlers... is this guy saying we'll have robot butlers? I know it's offtopic, but I really want a robot butler.

 

[Nickolai77]

Scotland on the other hand, could gain from leaving the UK, as they have oil to sustain them, but then.. God.. what would happen to that country when it ran out? It's a pretty miserable place as it is, I can't bear to think what a hell-hole it would be with no money around. =P

I resent your miserable place remark, compared to what I've seen of England, Scotland is downright friendly.

Unless you have an English accent, in which case you might be stuffed.

Exactly my problem.

Break-up of America? Sounds like a great work of fiction to me. You could epic battles fought in California between the Russians and Chinese with EU intervention on the Eastern Sea-board and some sort of "American resistance movement". Like a Tom Clancy novel, only even more fictional. You could have great big tank battles on the American plains between the Chinese and the Europeans, American resistance sabotaging Russian tanks, blowing up bridges, and SAS dudes raiding Area 51 and stealing UFO's...And the Canadians can burn down the white house again. Sounds like a jolly good war to me.

Now THAT sounds like a game!
Playing stealthily as Americans!
Playing All-Out as Europeans!


I'm thinking EU+US+Can+Greenland+Israel+India+Australia+JapanVSChina, Russia, India, Indochina.
India can be divided.
There's a huge amount of possibilities for this IP, you should pitch it.

Heh, thanks. The whole collapse of America idea is actually a story i've had in my head for the past two years. Minus the UFO's and the Canadians burning down the White house, you have an over-view of the kind of stuff that would happen if if i actually wrote a book on it. Unless i decide to make it a comedy that is, where SAS soldiers steal UFO's so to bomb bejing and abduct Russian tanks- but i don't think comedy is my forte. To be honest, the idea would probably work best as a game- it could be an FPS, could be real time or turn based strategy, i would certainly buy it.

I'll be plesantly surprised with myself though if i actually complete a story on this. Writing is a very time consuming buisness which requres a lot of commitment and free-time, neither of which i typically have. That, and currently i'm writing something else unrelated. None the less, i would be raging pissed if i walk into a book shop and find someone has nicked my "collapse of America" idea.

 

[Vash108]

We're off schedule!

Quick, Americans, get more angry!

Uhh, Obama is an islamic fundamentalist communist!

The Conservatives are stupid!

Quick people! We only have a couple more weeks till Civil war!

Dammit! All this time I was under the impression Obama was the Anti-Christ...oh well, I guess my sources are a bit off!

No, he is actually the emissary of Lord Zenu. But you were close!

 

[Sandvichman]

Well the governor of Texas did threaten to secede. So there's that.

That's Texas... Who cares?

Well the governor of Texas did threaten to secede. So there's that.

Well we can live without Texas.

Pffffff, yeah, right.

In the scenario in which any foreign power invades the continental U.S., Texas will be leading the rebellion, since everybody and their dog has enough guns to shame the military.

I wish I still lived there

Sorry, but a bunch of overweight rednecks won't be able to make a stand against a professional army.

 

[Sandvichman]

meh

 

[firedfns13]

It's a pretty crappy situation. If I remember correctly isn't the Right basicly just going to filibuster anything Obama tries to do, and when the other side is in power the left does the same thing? (It was a Time article, not sure which issue.) No real progress is ever going to be made because both sides are worried about making the other look bad.

Basically. Though I stopped following politics because of the brain damage it was giving me. Like I said, until we get moderates/centrists in office, not much is actually going to happen. Yet America won't break up or fall into another civil war because we're fat and lazy. Civil disobedience requires work that we just don't feel like doing.

 

[Fox242]

That damn Ruskie wants that to happen. Unless a foregin army physically invades, there's no way that America will fall apart by the end of the year. Sure things aren't going so well right now, but our Union is not on the brink.

Anway, if we could win the Civil War and survive the Great Depression, then we can make it through this rough stretch even though our government is a bit incompetent at the moment in dealing with the oil spill and illegal immigration. Besides, would any of the non-American Escapists here want America to go away?

I find the map on that page funny.

I can understand the northern section of the midwest going to Canada and maybe even the Eastern US joining the EU but saying Americans would legally be connected to China and Mexico kind of cracks me up.

The deep south accepting Mexican rule thats a good joke

Yeah, that gave me a good laugh. I lived in the South for ten years and many people there don't like Mexico to begin with due to illegal immigration. There's no way in hell that would ever happen peacefully.

 

[derelict]

I wouldn't say 'fall', but I suspect we're skirting another depression, provided WW3 doesn't break out over these recent North Korea and Iran shenanigans.

 

[MetalGenocide]

The U.S. will "fall". But probably not "break apart".
The plan stands, to exploit the people for work as much as possible, before depopulation.
Just follow the money trail, and you may find out, what is more likely.

 

[Nickolai77]

I.. nobody seems to have pointed out that, the EU wouldn't want the US.. it's the EUROPEAN Union, Japan has as much of a chance as joining as a piece of the US does =/

I.. I want Japan to join the EU now, gief better trading relations plz

Heh, screw a European Union, we want a world union!!

 

[Silver Patriot]

Well the governor of Texas did threaten to secede. So there's that.

That's Texas... Who cares?

Well the governor of Texas did threaten to secede. So there's that.

Well we can live without Texas.

Pffffff, yeah, right.

In the scenario in which any foreign power invades the continental U.S., Texas will be leading the rebellion, since everybody and their dog has enough guns to shame the military.

I wish I still lived there

Sorry, but a bunch of overweight rednecks won't be able to make a stand against a professional army.

When every single person in the area not only has a gun but is willing to shoot anyone who steps on their property it makes ocupation kinda hard.

Sorry about the stereotype but if it means anything it was a complement.

 

[Polock]

The United States will not fall. Many Americans remember we only have 2 years left with a awful leader. Once we reelect a ACTUAL leader we should do fine.

This doesn't even make sense.

 

[Rofl-Mayo]

I don't believe it. It's probably just BS.

 

[crimson5pheonix]

wow! put on probation for suggesting christian fundaMENTALists might be the reason if america ever did break up...

Sorry but i'm sticking to my guns on this one... I read the other day christian groups are trying to knock down america's seperation of church and state, and seriously how many more liberal states (or even true republican ones) would ever sit back and take that crap..

Americas religious freedoms spring from this seperation and the freedom all americans have to worship whatever god they wish, or none at all, so if america did split up, (unlikely at best) I state again, christianity will be to blame!

You were put on probation because some people take offense to you putting all Christians in the same bucket. Stereotyping is bad, m'kay?

 

[crimson5pheonix]

wow! put on probation for suggesting christian fundaMENTALists might be the reason if america ever did break up...

Sorry but i'm sticking to my guns on this one... I read the other day christian groups are trying to knock down america's seperation of church and state, and seriously how many more liberal states (or even true republican ones) would ever sit back and take that crap..

Americas religious freedoms spring from this seperation and the freedom all americans have to worship whatever god they wish, or none at all, so if america did split up, (unlikely at best) I state again, christianity will be to blame!

You were put on probation because some people take offense to you putting all Christians in the same bucket. Stereotyping is bad, m'kay?

nah I said Christianity would be the reason, not which group.... personally I do feel genuinelly sorry for all the moderate chritians the same way I feel sorry for all the moderate jews and muslims because its the hardline a-holes who seem to be the most vocal... nontheless It is these a-holes who seem to be building enough ploitical clout to actually threaten the seperation of church and state in their mistaken belief that america is a christian country, therefore as my argument goes, christianity (abeit a mutated wrong form of it) will be what threatens the end of the union if anything does...

but then I reiterate.... I doubt if it ever will...

perhaps its time for moderate christians to speak up more and defend things like seperation of church an state making it clear to us ignorant heathens that its not just the loud idiots running the show!

All I'm saying is that you didn't make that distinction in your OP. You just said Christians.