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maninahat

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Tuddle said:
What if,

Inglourious Basterds did happen instead of the way WW2 ended.
Then far more competant military officials would take Hitler's place as ruler over Germany, thus lengthening the war.

The allies actually had various assassination plots to get rid of Hitler, but decided the man was better off alive seeing as how he was a lousy and lazy strategist and was essentially ensuring Germany's demise.
 

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Hopeless Bastard said:
What if hitler waited longer to attack the USSR?

We'd all be speaking german.
Wrong. Russia actually suspected germany would eventually attack despite their treaties. Russia's scheme was actually to try and delay the conflict between Germany and Russia as much as possible, just so it would give the country more time to mobilize, industrialise, and develop its armed forces. It would have probably helped Russia a great deal if Barbarossa came six months later than it did.
 

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What if the Arch Duke of Austro-Hungary's driver didn't take that wrong turn on the way to the hospital, where he ended up taking the lynch pin to the start of the entire first World war into visible range of the assassin tasked to kill him?
 

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What if the natives of North and South America were immune from the diseases the European explorers brought?

What if the China or Japan colonized America before the Europeans found it?

What if the industrial revolution happened in Africa or India before it happened in Europe?
 

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actually no, the navy had a large and very long blockade on japan so they were gonna surrender and yet Truman still dropped fat man and little boy.[/quote]

Okay, didnt know that, my area of expertise isnt WW2, thanks for the info though.
 

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Snowalker said:
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I hope Im not ninja'd....what if religion didn't exist at all? Oh wait, peace on earth
No offense, but I really disagree with that. Not every conflict has been religion related, some were straight up politics. However if were to change that to religion AND politics. I would be inclined to agree.
Yeah but at least the worst things were caused by religion
 

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Marik2 said:
Quiet Stranger said:
I hope Im not ninja'd....what if religion didn't exist at all? Oh wait, peace on earth
Not really the next big thing that would be used to brainwash the masses would be nationalism. It only takes one person to screw up a good idea.
Yeah but if it was just nationalism then there probably wouldn't be a problem (at least not much of one)
 

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Surprised I hadn't heard this one: What if the Central Powers won the First World War?

It would stop all those World War Two what-ifs.
 

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Quiet Stranger said:
Snowalker said:
Quiet Stranger said:
I hope Im not ninja'd....what if religion didn't exist at all? Oh wait, peace on earth
No offense, but I really disagree with that. Not every conflict has been religion related, some were straight up politics. However if were to change that to religion AND politics. I would be inclined to agree.
Yeah but at least the worst things were caused by religion
So, WWII was caused by Religion? thought it was politics, silly me.
 

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Snowalker said:
Quiet Stranger said:
Snowalker said:
Quiet Stranger said:
I hope Im not ninja'd....what if religion didn't exist at all? Oh wait, peace on earth
No offense, but I really disagree with that. Not every conflict has been religion related, some were straight up politics. However if were to change that to religion AND politics. I would be inclined to agree.
Yeah but at least the worst things were caused by religion
So, WWII was caused by Religion? thought it was politics, silly me.
I said the Holocaust, you know jews being killed off because they're jews
 

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Quiet Stranger said:
Snowalker said:
Quiet Stranger said:
Snowalker said:
Quiet Stranger said:
I hope Im not ninja'd....what if religion didn't exist at all? Oh wait, peace on earth
No offense, but I really disagree with that. Not every conflict has been religion related, some were straight up politics. However if were to change that to religion AND politics. I would be inclined to agree.
Yeah but at least the worst things were caused by religion
So, WWII was caused by Religion? thought it was politics, silly me.
I said the Holocaust, you know jews being killed off because they're jews
Right, but how did Hitler get into power? I thought that was politics aswell..


You can't blame one without blaming the other.
 

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Quiet Stranger said:
I hope Im not ninja'd....what if religion didn't exist at all? Oh wait, peace on earth
You really think it'd be that easy?
People always find something to fight about, if it wasn't religion, it'd be nationalism or racism or any other type of 'ism'. Religion is just a convenient excuse for arseholes to hate everyone who isn't exactly like them.
 

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Quiet Stranger said:
Snowalker said:
Quiet Stranger said:
Snowalker said:
Quiet Stranger said:
I hope Im not ninja'd....what if religion didn't exist at all? Oh wait, peace on earth
No offense, but I really disagree with that. Not every conflict has been religion related, some were straight up politics. However if were to change that to religion AND politics. I would be inclined to agree.
Yeah but at least the worst things were caused by religion
So, WWII was caused by Religion? thought it was politics, silly me.
I said the Holocaust, you know jews being killed off because they're jews
That was more race based than religion based.
 

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Quiet Stranger said:
Marik2 said:
Quiet Stranger said:
I hope Im not ninja'd....what if religion didn't exist at all? Oh wait, peace on earth
Not really the next big thing that would be used to brainwash the masses would be nationalism. It only takes one person to screw up a good idea.
Yeah but if it was just nationalism then there probably wouldn't be a problem (at least not much of one)
But there still be a problem nonetheless. Any ideology that a person has can be used for evil.
 

Quiet Stranger

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Snowalker said:
Quiet Stranger said:
Snowalker said:
Quiet Stranger said:
Snowalker said:
Quiet Stranger said:
I hope Im not ninja'd....what if religion didn't exist at all? Oh wait, peace on earth
No offense, but I really disagree with that. Not every conflict has been religion related, some were straight up politics. However if were to change that to religion AND politics. I would be inclined to agree.
Yeah but at least the worst things were caused by religion
So, WWII was caused by Religion? thought it was politics, silly me.
I said the Holocaust, you know jews being killed off because they're jews
Right, but how did Hitler get into power? I thought that was politics aswell..


You can't blame one without blaming the other.
Yes but what I'M saying is even if he did get to power (lets say in a world without religion) he wouldn't have killed all those jews because there would have been none, so he probably would have less hate
 

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Marik2 said:
Quiet Stranger said:
Marik2 said:
Quiet Stranger said:
I hope Im not ninja'd....what if religion didn't exist at all? Oh wait, peace on earth
Not really the next big thing that would be used to brainwash the masses would be nationalism. It only takes one person to screw up a good idea.
Yeah but if it was just nationalism then there probably wouldn't be a problem (at least not much of one)
But there still be a problem nonetheless. Any ideology that a person has can be used for evil.
Oh wait, forgive me, there's no such thing as good or evil, forgot to mention that one
 

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Dudemeister said:
Quiet Stranger said:
I hope Im not ninja'd....what if religion didn't exist at all? Oh wait, peace on earth
You really think it'd be that easy?
People always find something to fight about, if it wasn't religion, it'd be nationalism or racism or any other type of 'ism'. Religion is just a convenient excuse for arseholes to hate everyone who isn't exactly like them.
Well true but there's only such things as racism because of people allowing it to exist (its a long explanation) but at least if religion never existed there'd be one less problem
 

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boris the sprinkler said:
Quiet Stranger said:
Snowalker said:
Quiet Stranger said:
Snowalker said:
Quiet Stranger said:
I hope Im not ninja'd....what if religion didn't exist at all? Oh wait, peace on earth
No offense, but I really disagree with that. Not every conflict has been religion related, some were straight up politics. However if were to change that to religion AND politics. I would be inclined to agree.
Yeah but at least the worst things were caused by religion
So, WWII was caused by Religion? thought it was politics, silly me.
I said the Holocaust, you know jews being killed off because they're jews
That was more race based than religion based.
Well Hitler killed more religious people then he did colored people did he not?