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"Art may convey an idea but it is a vehicle to sell something that has monetary value."Rigs83 said:When you have to defend an idea by bombing innocent woman and children on the other side of the world, who were never a threat to you and your ideas, then no an idea is not worth defending because it is just dogma and no longer an idea.SevenStarSonata said:Ideas aren't worth defending? That character stands for something, that "stranger" drew that character with the intent of getting some sort of point across. I don't care if it's drawn on paper or sung in a song or puffed up in smoke signals, ideas and principles are worth defending. The Sorrow was stating their opinion on Alan Moore's work not for Alan Moore's personal thanks, but for the sake of the ideas contained within his works and for The Sorrow's own principles.Rigs83 said:
I just happen to disagree with it.
It was wrong to defend the idea of democracy in Vietnam or freedom in Iraq.
Art may convey an idea but it is a vehicle to sell something that has monetary value. That's why the best sculptures from Greek Antiquity are not in Greece, why the Mona Lisa is in France and not Italy and why Shepard Fairey was arrested at his first museum opening at The Institute of Contemporary Art in Boston.
Art is important but it must defend itself against social morays and those who wish to destroy it.
I'd like to relate a little anecdote.
Alan Moore, being the original author, would have received royalties from the Watchmen movie.
He refused.
Consider that.
He REFUSED to receive millions of dollars for the sake of preserving his art.
I can keep going.
Homer? They didn't pay you to just tell stories back then.
Cormac McCarthy? Damn near unreadable, but damn beautiful.
"It was wrong to defend the idea of democracy in Vietnam or freedom in Iraq."
I'm going to be blunt.
No, it was not.
We may have cocked it up badly both times, but we were doing all the wrong things for all the right reasons.
There was a serious threat of the spread of Communism in the 1950s/60s, and people were scared shitless over the happenings in Iraq.
Should we have invaded? I have no idea, but we didn't and wouldn't sit on our asses.
Oh, one more thing:
The fucking thing brought EVERYBODY THAT THE MAIN VILLAIN HAD FUCKING KILLED BACK TO LIFE.Merteg said:
That manga deserves to BURN.
"...Buddy, you're ugly ::devastating record scratch:: and nobody likes you."
JohnnyUtah of NewGrounds doing Tankmen 0.5
JohnnyUtah of NewGrounds doing Tankmen 0.5
Essentially.... EVERY conversation between Pitt and Norton was a monologue. But one I keep quoting to myself is Durden's retort to Jack (or Joe's) complaints about the first "Human Sacrifice":Tdc2182 said:
"Tomorrow, he will wake up and have the best tasting breakfast of his life; more delicious than any meal you or I have ever tasted." or something to that effect.
Here's a few
"The good news is the loss of the most acomplished playwrite the world has ever known a hundred years before his birth seems to have confused the robots deadline circuits and he's blown himself to bits."
"And the bad news?"
"Well the clue was in the good news. We've lost the most acomplished playwrite the world has ever known a hundred years before his birth."
"I just discovered a new desease that can only be spread anicdotaly."
"Tell me more."
"God God man, do you want to be infected?"
Mr. Croup: You can't make an omelet...
Mr. Vandemaar: ...without killing a few people.
Raziel: You said it yourself, Kain... there are only two sides to your coin.
Kain: Apparently so, but suppose you throw a coin enough times... suppose one day, it lands on its edge.
"The good news is the loss of the most acomplished playwrite the world has ever known a hundred years before his birth seems to have confused the robots deadline circuits and he's blown himself to bits."
"And the bad news?"
"Well the clue was in the good news. We've lost the most acomplished playwrite the world has ever known a hundred years before his birth."
"I just discovered a new desease that can only be spread anicdotaly."
"Tell me more."
"God God man, do you want to be infected?"
Mr. Croup: You can't make an omelet...
Mr. Vandemaar: ...without killing a few people.
Raziel: You said it yourself, Kain... there are only two sides to your coin.
Kain: Apparently so, but suppose you throw a coin enough times... suppose one day, it lands on its edge.
The Sorrow said:"Art may convey an idea but it is a vehicle to sell something that has monetary value."Rigs83 said:When you have to defend an idea by bombing innocent woman and children on the other side of the world, who were never a threat to you and your ideas, then no an idea is not worth defending because it is just dogma and no longer an idea.SevenStarSonata said:Ideas aren't worth defending? That character stands for something, that "stranger" drew that character with the intent of getting some sort of point across. I don't care if it's drawn on paper or sung in a song or puffed up in smoke signals, ideas and principles are worth defending. The Sorrow was stating their opinion on Alan Moore's work not for Alan Moore's personal thanks, but for the sake of the ideas contained within his works and for The Sorrow's own principles.Rigs83 said:
I just happen to disagree with it.
It was wrong to defend the idea of democracy in Vietnam or freedom in Iraq.
Art may convey an idea but it is a vehicle to sell something that has monetary value. That's why the best sculptures from Greek Antiquity are not in Greece, why the Mona Lisa is in France and not Italy and why Shepard Fairey was arrested at his first museum opening at The Institute of Contemporary Art in Boston.
Art is important but it must defend itself against social morays and those who wish to destroy it.
I'd like to relate a little anecdote.
Alan Moore, being the original author, would have received royalties from the Watchmen movie.
He refused.
Consider that.
He REFUSED to receive millions of dollars for the sake of preserving his art.
I can keep going.
Homer? They didn't pay you to just tell stories back then.
Cormac McCarthy? Damn near unreadable, but damn beautiful.
"It was wrong to defend the idea of democracy in Vietnam or freedom in Iraq."
I'm going to be blunt.
No, it was not.
We may have cocked it up badly both times, but we were doing all the wrong things for all the right reasons.
There was a serious threat of the spread of Communism in the 1950s/60s, and people were scared shitless over the happenings in Iraq.
Should we have invaded? I have no idea, but we didn't and wouldn't sit on our asses.
You do realize since the fall of the Soviet union the biggest owner of US debt is China, a communist nation that we can't afford to criticize even as they oppress millions if not billions of the poor living in the county side, protect regimes in Africa that are actively committing atrocities and war crimes and putting lead into the darnedest things.
Our economy is failing in this global economic slump (one we caused)while theirs are growing.
America may have won the Cold War but we are clearly losing the peace.
And you can't do wrong things for the right reason when you kill two million people so they would not live under Communism or anywhere from 500,000 to a million in Iraq( we may never know the final tally) for crimes we actually knew they did not do, they did not harbor terrorists and they did not have weapons of mass destruction but now the nation is a breeding ground for terrorists and Iran is working on creating a nuclear industry and peaceful or not we have no way to feasibly way to stop them outside of sanctions.
When you begin to shed blood for an idea for any reason other than defense against an attacker than you are following a dogma like "Better Dead than Red" or yellowcake.
Violence is a tool of last resort but too often has become the first tool utilized to defend an idea.
My favourite Calvin quote: "Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us" -Brilliant.Asciotes said:
A couple more: "What's the point of wearing your favorite rocketship underpants if nobody ever asks to see 'em?"
Do you believe in the devil? You know, a supreme evil being dedicated to the temptation, corruption, and destruction of man?"
"I'm not sure that man needs the help."
"Let's think the unthinkable, let's do the undoable, let's prepare to grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after all" -D.N.A.
"Math is simple, it's the thing we can understand. It's cats that are complicated" - John Conway
"Math is simple, it's the thing we can understand. It's cats that are complicated" - John Conway
"tragedy is when i cut my finger, comedy is when you fall into an open sewer and die"
-Mel Brooks
-Mel Brooks