Feds bust 72 users of a child porn forum.

[Lethos]

Man judging by the some of the comments in this thread, I would say that a fair number of forumites exhibit behaviour I would associate with sociopaths..

These people need help, not to be tortured to fulfil some sort of medieval, barbaric blood lust.
Don't get me wrong, these people deserved to be punished, but when I see people saying that they should be burnt alive, it makes me think that perhaps you're not quite as benevolent yourself.

 

[Himmelgeher]

Oh wow.

So you're actually recommending the murder of people, who haven't done ANYTHING.

People who look at child pornography aren't (read: Shouldn't be) criminals, what they are is sick, and they need help, they haven't hurt anyone but they could potentially end up hurting someone if they aren't given help.

And if you suggest that their crimes are in any way deserving of the same punishment a man who killed 80+ people in the prime of their lives deserves, then i quite frankly think that you are more sick than the pedophiles.

Yes. Yes I am. People who are looking at drawings/hentai are (for the moment) innocent, and as such, should seek help. But people who get off on actual, real life children who are being raped completely deserve to die. They have to a) find child porn, b) not call the police or authorities of any kind, c)achieve sexual arousal, d)use child pornography. All of those choices are despicable in their own right, and they've made all four. In what way is that all right? In what way is that not evil? They are actively supporting the rape and torture, possibly even murder of children by viewing such materiel and not reporting it. That is the line at which someone deserves to die in the most horrific way possible. So while the Oslo man earned it *more* he does deserve the same punishment. I also think that the "interrogators" at Guantanamo Bay deserve equal treatment. There is a line, after you cross it, all atrocities are equal.

 

[Nikokvaj]

Exactly who did these people harm?

 

[darkfire613]

Okay, LulzSec and Anonymous, instead of hacking government computers and such, track down the rest of these sick fucks that the government hasn't been able to yet.

This is just sickening. Not just the child porn which was bad enough, but in distress? That's just a whole extra level of perversion. I hope some prison guards conveniently "fall asleep" on their posts while the other prisoners take care of these guys.

 

[Rodrigo Girao]

Distress can be easily faked, mind you.

 

[Jonabob87]

That's horrible! I hope those fuckers have a horrible time in prison.

Oh trust me... they will. You don't want to be a pedophile in a prison. Prisoners tend to get a bit... stabby, around pedophiles.

Well, yeah, based on the bloodlust of people outside of prison for these guys it'd be pretty bad when the people are actually violent.

Drawn stuff? Allowing people to wallow in their own mental illness, eventually that wont be enough and they'll move on.

Citation needed here, that's quite a controversial point to make. Very little evidence either way, I believe. I have to say I think you're confusing the causality

Citation? Uh, human nature?

If it's so obvious and true you should be able to find several sources to back the claim.

Yeah because these things are reported in that sort of detail. You honestly think people just decide one day "I think I'll make child pornography". No, that is a thought that is developed, like most ideas. Human nature is to become numb to things that stay on the same level, and so we go for more extreme things, and once that gets boring we move on again.

This is how people get in to hard drugs and/or organised crime. It will work the same was for child porn, and child abuse.

It's the reason why everything is so full of gratuitous sex and violence these days, compared to the 50 for example. It's just not shocking any more, so we take it up a notch.

 

[ajemas]

I just got a little physically sick. How in God's name did this website last for so long?! Those bastards should get life in prison for what they've done.

 

[MurderousToaster]

Well done, feds. Someone give these chaps some extra-slippery soap while they're in prison.

 

[LCP]

Line em' up and shoot em'

Some people make me sick...

 

[standokan]

That's gotta be a highscore.

 

[William Ossiss]

13 Out of 72 individuals have pleaded guilty and have been sentenced to prison terms as long as 30 years, serves the bastards right.

Hear-hear!

this type of thing is just rampant. its angers me that children have to suffer through this type of disgusting thing.

 

[HotFezz8]

"If the girl looks totally comfortable, she's not in distress, it does NOT belong I this section."


serves the bastards right.

Source: <a href=http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/08/feds-hack-past-user-anonymity-bust-72-subscribers-to-child-porn-horror-site.ars>Ars Technica

fuck jail, lethal injection.

 

[razer17]

Some thrid world countries chemically castrate pedos, to be honest, its a pretty good idea. Drastic, but hell, no more repeat offenders!

I'm not sure of the effectiveness of that. Does removing the desire/ability to have sexual intercourse remove the desire/ability to cause harm to children?

They don't usually have a desire to harm children, they usually have a paraphilia ( a sexual desire for abnormal objects etc, in this case underage children.) Therefore chemical castration would "cure" most paedophiles because they would no longer have the sexual desire. That said, there probably are a few who do it purely because they are psychopathic, in which case it won't help.

Paedophiles disgust me. I hope they get life, because sadly chemical castration isn't an option in the "civilised" world. Although, to be fair, paedophiles who refuse to let their urges take control, and therefore don't download child porn or harm kids, are fine. I mean, they have a mental illness, but if they don't act on it they're not a problem.

(Captcha = Collection hentai. How bizzare, and almost appropriate.)

 

[RagTagBand]

Man judging by the some of the comments in this thread, I would say that a fair number of forumites exhibit behaviour I would associate with sociopaths..

Hell I would go further than mere sociopathy, Reading some of the comments people here are unashamed sadists. It's one thing to lack a conscious, and feel no remorse or empathy, but to be reveling in the thought (almost to the point of arousal in some people) of brutally torturing people?

I'd feel safer in a room full of people who view CP than I would in a room full of some of the commenter's here.

I mean some people seem to happily welcoming the fact that murderers and rapists in prisons will likely kill or violate these people. What kind of dumbass double standards do you have where you can lock up someone for murder/rape and then encourage them to do some more of it? What is this? The Death penalty by proxy? The equivalent of hiring an assassin and then claiming "Hey, *I* Didn't kill anyone"?

And I wish that was the limit of hypocrisy in this thread.

You're practically making heroes out of Murderers. YOU people make me just as sick as the people who were arrested, you're two sides of the same coin; Wallowing in your animal instincts without nary a thought for ethics or morals.

The people arrested should be isolated, protected and receive therapy for their condition.

 

[Baneat]

That's horrible! I hope those fuckers have a horrible time in prison.

Oh trust me... they will. You don't want to be a pedophile in a prison. Prisoners tend to get a bit... stabby, around pedophiles.

Well, yeah, based on the bloodlust of people outside of prison for these guys it'd be pretty bad when the people are actually violent.

Drawn stuff? Allowing people to wallow in their own mental illness, eventually that wont be enough and they'll move on.

Citation needed here, that's quite a controversial point to make. Very little evidence either way, I believe. I have to say I think you're confusing the causality

Citation? Uh, human nature?

If it's so obvious and true you should be able to find several sources to back the claim.

Yeah because these things are reported in that sort of detail. You honestly think people just decide one day "I think I'll make child pornography". No, that is a thought that is developed, like most ideas. Human nature is to become numb to things that stay on the same level, and so we go for more extreme things, and once that gets boring we move on again.

This is how people get in to hard drugs and/or organised crime. It will work the same was for child porn, and child abuse.

It's the reason why everything is so full of gratuitous sex and violence these days, compared to the 50 for example. It's just not shocking any more, so we take it up a notch.

Real=/= fake. This is the whole video games cause violence thing, who can really be fucked any more?

So, drawing from this point, You say fake hentai type stuff will lead them to do the real thing, and I'm saying that this is the same as saying fake violence will cause people to eventually get tired of it, and move onto real violence. Can you see the similarity in these two statements? Are either true at all?, one true? (And you'd need a distinction between them) or both true (In which case if videogames did cause violence, back that claim)

There are also similarities to cannabis use as a "Gate-way" drug in which cannabis users "get tired" of a mild drug and move to hard drugs. The question is, is it not just that people inclined to hard drugs are highly likely to use mild ones too? I think the causality is still backwards here, you'd probably find lolicon in a paedophile's hard drive, but that doesn't mean too much.

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There is more to harm than being in physical pain.
"Chances are" - There is a definite chance some are, take the average since you can't differentiate between them.
If having gay sex was as immoral as sex with children, then it's the same fucking thing. But it's not, so your analogy breaks down.

yes having gay sex isn't as bad as having sex with children BUT a man masturbating to a picture of a naked man isn't worse than a man masturbating to a picture of a naked child, also I've met a few pedophiles online ( I hang around the rough side of the internet where facebookers don't venture ) and none of them would actually hurt a child, sure they fap to loli hentai and pictures of naked kids but that's just about it, and it's not like they chose to be pedophiles they were born as pedophiles like gay people are born gay so throwing them in jail isn't going to make things better. With help they could probably control their urges but try to find help in a society like this where pedophiles are treated as scum, even if you find some help if anyone from the media hears of you being a pedophile you will never be able to live a normal life again because you'll be treated as a child raping sicko that should be thrown in jail forever by every single person you meet.

Point stands. "Using" real material ======>>> Harm in an end result. If children ceased to exist then all existing child porn would be fine, since it could not promote itself nor be endorsed into further manufacture, if you get me. Being a paedophile is not inherently wrong, you're kind of straw manning me, and loli-drawn stuff is probably fine too simply because there were no real people abused, I'll retract that and say it's wrong also IF someone gives me a solid correlation between loli's manufacture and harm to children, that's something I've never heard. You're thinking too closely and not considering the wider implications of certain actions.

 

[robot slipper]

Unfortunately, aren't child molesters separated from the "general" population in American prisons? I think they should just be thrown into the mix and let the stabbing experts deal with them, they would be doing society a favour. A child molester is never going to stop wanting to molest children, thats why I like to see that they are being given a long sentance and therefore removed from society (where they pose a constant threat).

 

[Baneat]

Unfortunately, aren't child molesters separated from the "general" population in American prisons? I think they should just be thrown into the mix and let the stabbing experts deal with them, they would be doing society a favour. A child molester is never going to stop wanting to molest children, thats why I like to see that they are being given a long sentance and therefore removed from society (where they pose a constant threat).

That's worse than the death penalty. The idea of prison is to remove them, not throw them to wolves and claim that the wolves are there by coincidence.