Feds bust 72 users of a child porn forum.
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No, you're right. They found one forum of pervs... bang-up job; way to miss the rest of the internet. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm glad they've busted the ones they have... but, I dunno.. look a little harder? Clues are everywhere, man. Hell, the FBI should run a basic Google search now and then.Valagetti said:
Oh, and the prison they end up in should announce to the other inmates that these guys are pedophiles. Relevant information is relevant in prison.
Finally one of these threads with no moral ambiguity. And nothing that can be defended, unlike some of the cartoon related arrests. Due to the nature of the board and it's membership structure / member requirements, I have no problem with these people going away for a long time... Good work.
I just hope to see charges for the actual offences members committed to real children. As if they have only got people who were sharing the stuff as opposed to the creators, then this is not very good since the creators will just continue, but put the their creations elsewhere....
Since I believe this material can be downloaded for free in complete isolation to the original crime of creating it. How can this be considered to be "actively supporting" the original crime? If pirating child porn is supporting it's production, why are the record industry so up in arms about the pirating of music. By the same logic having pirated music is supporting music creation right?
I just hope to see charges for the actual offences members committed to real children. As if they have only got people who were sharing the stuff as opposed to the creators, then this is not very good since the creators will just continue, but put the their creations elsewhere....
As much as I find the idea of people looking at this material disgusting, I don't think that statement is 100% true. If you have given financial support to the creation of the material, then you are an accomplice to the crime and get the same punishment as the crime. Isn't that the way it works with like hiring a hitman to kill someone, you are charge with murder as well.Himmelgeher said:
Since I believe this material can be downloaded for free in complete isolation to the original crime of creating it. How can this be considered to be "actively supporting" the original crime? If pirating child porn is supporting it's production, why are the record industry so up in arms about the pirating of music. By the same logic having pirated music is supporting music creation right?
Time for some good old fashion prison butt sex. I can't get myself to feel sorry for them. I'm pretty sure some of these pedophiles just watch porn and would never harm a kid, the same way some "normal" people watch 100 member orgies. Heck, I got a straight friend who likes to get nasty from time to time and jerks off at gay movies. And since demand triggers supply, I guess that more and more porn stars will just get their throats ripped off in brutal face action if that's what people like. But it's their choice and they do get paid for it.
On the other hand, snuff and child pornography is just plain evil. And simply resuming yourself to watching these things, even just for kicks, is enough for those monsters to look for more "actors". But we should welcome this porn blogs. How else would police find them so easily? So do yourself a favor and never ever watch or download something like this. If you do by mistake, report it to the police fast, cause there's no telling which FBI agent is watching you.
Now, as computer graphics get more and more evolved, we might get some well made porn games pretty soon. And just a quick glance at japanese ero-games will already leave you with a nasty after taste. They're all about school girls. Some underground stuff must really be bad, considering how Rapelay which was "store-friendly" was about 3 guys raping a kid in front of her mother. I can't help wondering how such games would change pedophilia. Would it decrease it, by providing a let-off valve for weird thoughts? Or will they increase it by making it easier to get into it?
On the other hand, snuff and child pornography is just plain evil. And simply resuming yourself to watching these things, even just for kicks, is enough for those monsters to look for more "actors". But we should welcome this porn blogs. How else would police find them so easily? So do yourself a favor and never ever watch or download something like this. If you do by mistake, report it to the police fast, cause there's no telling which FBI agent is watching you.
Now, as computer graphics get more and more evolved, we might get some well made porn games pretty soon. And just a quick glance at japanese ero-games will already leave you with a nasty after taste. They're all about school girls. Some underground stuff must really be bad, considering how Rapelay which was "store-friendly" was about 3 guys raping a kid in front of her mother. I can't help wondering how such games would change pedophilia. Would it decrease it, by providing a let-off valve for weird thoughts? Or will they increase it by making it easier to get into it?
Following the quoted's logic, there's nothing wrong with being a paedophile, moral value is not decided by what you're born with, just how you act on what you have. Reminding myself of the episode of House which had a self-chemically castrated paedophile in it, he decided injuring children was wrong so he forced himself away with it. How can he be considered a bad person?Hosker said:
Reading the terms of the admins, i would of thought that the entire site was just a huge pedo trap.
That answer your question?Hosker said:
-Edit: Reading that, I see how it might come off as hostile. Please note that this is not my intention.
There's going to be a lot of embarrassing statements read in those courtrooms. Hooray! The FBI is busting kiddie-touchers instead of harassing brown people!Fuselage said:
FUCK these guys.
Seriously. If the feds devoted more time to tracking down assholes like these guys, the world would be a better place.
Seriously. If the feds devoted more time to tracking down assholes like these guys, the world would be a better place.
IIRC, hitmen are generally charged with second degree murder while those who hired them are charged with first degree murder. But regarding my post, the only reason child porn is created and shared is for other people to view it. It isn't like music or movies or even regular porn in that the theft of child porn has no negative impact on the creator, because said creator has to have a regular job and can't make too much money off of it anyway or else he would draw attention to himself. Conversely, the goal of posting child porn is the act itself. If people didn't view it, then it wouldn't be posted, and possibly not even be made in the first place. That's what I meant by "actively supporting".ph0b0s123 said:
Did they have any involvement in making the porno?Blitzwing said:
If not, the only emotion I'm getting from this is that it must be terrible living life in a society so repressed that it won't even allow you to harmlessly satisfy your urges without getting thrown in jail.
Saying pedophilia is a something people should repress and not act out on is like saying the same thing about homosexuality, it's uneducated and it only leads to grave unhappiness in the people suffering from it.
If we allowed these people to act out their impulses in the least harmful way imaginable without judging them, not only would that make them lead a better life, it would also mean their urges would be satisfied and they wouldn't do something worse to actual children.
The idea of victimless crimes has never served society in any way, all it's ever lead to is a black market where the people involved are suffering far worse fates because it's out of the public's eye.
Thanks for the constructive response. This is where it gets difficult to discuss further, I have no idea how this stuff is generally disseminated, and don't really want to know. I do hear (don't know if accurate or not though) that it is rife on usenet, which has no way of telling if someone has downloaded the material or not. So no positive re-enforcement to post again. In the case of the people running the board busted yesterday, then there was obviously support happening in the form of better membership perks. And so I was happy they got busted. But someone who grabs stuff of usenet (if the rumour is true), I don't see how they are supporting creation.Himmelgeher said:
And yes I know for law enforcement, detecting this distinction of where material had been downloaded from is too difficult to bother with, so possession of any material is treated the same. I can live with that, just not the idea the act of downloading from any source is 100% supporting creation. I believe, unfortunately, even without support people would create this material (an act that cannot be defended) and post it, even if they could not be sure anyone was downloading.
An analogy might be the downloading of a jihady video. Get if from a jihady website you help their hit count which could be argued is helping them. Get it from usenet and it does nothing to support them. At least in my mind....
The real question is where is most of the material being downloaded from, boards like yesterday or somewhere else that does not provided feedback about downloads, so no feedback for posters. I certainly don't know and I am not sure the authorities do either.