Female Gamers: Are you tired of being presented with no dignity?

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Men don't have this problem cause most men don't care how they look and are usually pretty happy with themselves.

Hahahhahaahhahahahah

And if you could add one extra inch without anyone knowing about it...would you?
( You know what I mean )

Men have the same fears as women but men are bred to be competitive and fight their way out of it.

 

[Triple G]

Unfortunately we are still in a very male driven culture. It will take some more time for females to be represented better in video games. In the mean time, girls have heroes like Alyx Vance and Samus Aran to look up to instead of the characters from DOA Beach Volley Ball.

*rolleyes* Yeah, right, we still supress women like 300 years before, it's totally true and stuff... [/irony]

Dude wake up. They're just more big boobeb women in video games because, and let's stay true here: 90% of the gamers are guys.

Pareto principle says: You need 20% effort, to get 80% result. to get the last 20% you have to lay in the rest 80% effort, so it's not effective. So you better put in 20% effort to get almost all the guys in, and just don't bother about the nagging 20% because no one gives a shit about them. That's no sexism, that's business. It just gives you more profit when you act like that as a CEO. It's easy money.

 

[DeliciousTruffle]

I wouldn't mind fanservice for guys that much if there was more fanservice for girls. Equal opportunity objectification might not sound like a good idea but it would sure pacify me personally.

 

[Spineyguy]

What I'm saying is that proper equality in all media will only come when writers and character designers can completely overlook the fact that a character is male/female, black/white and focus on what they're like as a person.

Which will happen as soon as the audience stops caring. A cause being hampered by OP and dumb people in this thread.

I hope some day we will look back and laugh that we ever called Chell a good female character.

Absolutely, the sooner gamers stop accusing every game that involves black people of being racist, the sooner developers will stop negatively descriminating.

"Resident evil is racist because it involves black people being violent." it's a phrase you hear all too often these days, from this I can infer that black people have never ever been violent towards anyone. The point Capcom were trying to make is that the storyline of Resident Evil is a global thing, and poor countries with corrupt govornments and feudal populations would suffer more in that situation than those with right thinking polititians running the shop. Just involving black people in the game does not make them racist. It's the same with Valve and Left 4 Dead 2, the fact of the matter is that it's set in the deep south, where there just happens to be a large black population and in a zombie apocalypse, all parts of society would be affected, not just white, middle-class Americans.

 

[JoshGod]

okay listen carefully. games with attractive women with bigger breasts then clothes are created to get sales because the game is rubbish (in general). its these kind of things that have steered me away from games such as wet, ninja gaiden, x-blades etc.

anyway its mostly idiots who play these types of games anyway so why should you care??

as mentioned about 100 times men dont get all up tight about over musculer/attractive men so why are you??

 

[twistedshadows]

I admit I like playing games that feature attractive men, and I understand why having a "hot" female character is beneficial for sales.

As such, I don't find extremely attractive or scantily clad females in games horribly offensive (most of the time I think their armor/outfits are kind of awesome and even agree that they are attractive). What I don't like is when said females are depicted as having a 22" waist with a 58" bust line. It's possible to make hot female characters with feasible bodies, as many games out there demonstrate; it's the ones that push feasibility completely out the window that bother me (example: Ivy from Soul Calibur IV).

I don't find ridiculous proportions attractive in male characters, either (Marcus Fenix). It seems like a similar argument could be made in how men are often depicted having a severely muscled, chiseled body (and are often hot), which in reality opposes the majority of the male gender.

Edit: Also, it's not only the gaming community that presents females in an unrealistic way; that's already been done for ages by the rest of the media and it's going to take a lot of time and effort from both sexes to change what is considered attractive for both men and women.

 

[Galletea]

I'm more tired of being lumped together in the "Girl Gamer" group. It's not so simple as a sex divide, it never is, but people in these sexism debates still insist on grouping us all together.

I find that the scantily clad, unrealistic woman no more prevalent in games than in magazines aimed at men. It's just what sells in that market. There are plenty of dignified, more realistic women in gaming, you just don't notice them because you're too busy being outraged by the Ivys and the Laras.
Besides, I find Lara no more unrealistic than Marcus Fenix.

 

[IceStar100]

Oh dear lord another one of these. IT'S NOT REAL PEOPLE. When they start putting out mister and miss norm go out a by there first house. Then that is the day you will have won and killed games too. Not many want real life. We want to kill the god save the hot princess and fly a cool space ship. While looking like someone who benchs said space ship. Real life sucks keep it out of my fantasy.

 

[Chrissyluky]

May i join?

Yes im guessing its a concern of a lot of female gamers. But then again its what sells, you can see the predicament were in here.

it really doesnt bother me its not real sexcism its just writing a story. as yahtzee put with resident evil 5(yes that stupid racist rumor) it seems bad but you really dont get the feeling that capcom was trying to be racist. same principal would go here. if anything its people who ARE trying to be sexcist that bother me.

 

[JanatUrlich]

To be honest, I'm not bothered at all. I accept that sex sells and hell, it works on me a lot. If I see a hot woman/guy in a game or a film for that matter, it immediately makes me more likely to be interested in it

I'm sorry but that's just how it is.

I have to say though, I personally don't find the whole massive t+a thing hot at all.

 

[Spineyguy]

But the question is: who do you hear it from?

You hear it not from the people complaining about the game, but from people defending the game (sort of) attacking a straw man. The complaint about RE5 wasn't that "it involves black people being violent"; it was that it involved images that are reminiscent of images from the history of racism.

It's the same with Valve and Left 4 Dead 2, the fact of the matter is that it's set in the deep south, where there just happens to be a large black population and in a zombie apocalypse, all parts of society would be affected, not just white, middle-class Americans.

Same issue: the article/blog post that sparked that off did not say that. It referred to the racial dimension of the Hurricane Katrina catastrophe: again, someone made a complaint, and people created a simplistic straw man out of it.

You hear those arguements from the general public, that is how they've interpreted the articles/blog posts that originally raised these points. And regardless of the original intent of whoever wrote said articles, the fact that the public have interpreted them like that shows that it is the popular opinion. For all the aleged 'Shaping of views' done by the media, there has to be some underlying truth in that arguement.

People don't just come up with allegations of racism out of the blue, there has to be a foundation of real opinion in those arguements that people raise. So if people accuse Capcom of being racist, it's not wholly because they read it in an article, they must believe that there is racism there, the article just kicked them into acton and made them raise it on forums.

 

[Sirtwitchy]

It's purely to make money. Sex sells

 

[Baggie]

Unfortunately sex sells. And seeing as most of gamings market is males, you can see the logical step in marketing plans.

It's all very unfortunate in my eyes, especially seeing when I see female characters in this way I have a habit of filing them under "Male sex incentive" and mainly ignore them for the rest of the game, which is easy because often they hardly SAY anything.

Prolly should mention I'm a male as well.