Feminism: has it gone to far?

[Sebenko]

My personal thoughts on feminism?

Well, I think you can guess. I hate women. I just don't get along with them. I have no interest in sleeping with them. They have nothing of value for me (though that could be said about most people).

There's plenty of inequality to fight around the world. Go fight that before screeching in my ear.

Re OP: where is "far" and how am I supposed to know whether or not feminism has gone there?

Far harad?

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[Phoenixlight]

ok then...I know of one story where a bunch of woman wanted to do a nude calender shot, but the local feminist group stop them from doing it because they said that it was sexist and degrading. And also that in the 1960's thay called playboy empowering and now they call in sexist.

I don't think it's going too far and playboy is just for perverted and morally corrupt males.

 

[Alphavillain]

Feminism hasn't gone far enough. Women aren't feminists in the burning the bra kind of way they had in the 70s. It's simply not feminism any more, but women buying beauty products and pretending it's emancipation. Look at the top jobs, and they're mostly held by men, with women having far lower wages on average.

 

[HijiriOni]

Accept lots of women actually like playboy, it has great articles, the women are portrayed more like models then trashy whores, and their is a lot of development behind it. My wife very much approves of playboy, she also approves of suicide girls as they are basically "Playboy for the punk/alternative lifestyle" her words too.

Back on topic. What's funny about feminists is the notion started because of ye old 1930s "Get in the kitchen woman" thinking, where women were thought to be only good for cooking/cleaning/etc. Basically they didn't want to be forced into this and they wanted a choice. Now they have a choice and women who want to choose to be a mom, a prostitute, a stripper, or some other "not a man's job" position feminists belittle these women for making choices. So now there's the Neo-Feminism movement which is basically trying to tell the feminist movement to go away.

 

[Kenko]

Feminism hasn't existed since the 80s.

Not True Feminism anyway, now its about female Superiority, instead of equality.

Damnit, ninja'd! Yeah what he said.

 

[AlcatrasOnly]

Some people have asked for examples where feminism has gone too far or where the contrary to their thesis does not apply. I can give you some examples.
I live in Germany. Here we have a law that states that in some branches of the public state and in a part of the publicly supported privet sectors a certain quota of females must to be employed completely disregarding the fact that a male employer could be more qualified for the job or the fact that the total number of females applying for it is very low.
There have been publicly released cases where there have been hundreds of qualified male applicators for a job and only a few female which were generally less qualifies (not because of their gender but because their formal education and lack of experience). The employing staffs were forced to hire the females to fulfil the quota and reject the males to avoid the penalties (fines and loss of monetary aid) for not fulfilling it.
On the contrary these are public branches that have a 80% and higher female employments rating.
One such case became public years ago when a female chef of employment stuffs refuses to hire more males (despite equal or higher qualification) because ?they couldn?t do the job nearly as good as woman?. The attitude of this woman was so feministic that when it became public she eventually was fired because of it.
I think feminism has gone too far when equality is not encouraged when reached but enforced ignoring other circumstance that might exist. Like some people said already feminism is nowadays not about equality bur superiority.

 

[Generic_Dave]

Women still earn a large percentage less than men for similar work and employment...they make up substantially smaller proportions of high income earners, CEO's, managers, professors etc...

Look at the world of games design...I can't name a single woman connected to gaming...well Rebecca Mayes...but she doesn't make games.

Feminism will have gone far enough when women form a proportion of business, social and political leaders equivalent to their proportion of society. About 52%, there are more of them than there are of us. From social norms (men are "playas" women are "hos", men are "strong" women are "weak".) to the workplace, feminism needs to work harder.

Feminism has not gone too far. In fact it has not gone far enough.

 

[ethaninja]

Can you name some specific examples of why you think that way OP? Just curious.

Yeah please elaborate. There are many things that cover that that piss me off, but not all things.

 

[Danzaivar]

It's not gone far enough, if you ask me. In the UK at least it's only gone so far as to let women do the things that men do, without giving men any of the things women have.

Women live longer, but retire earlier. If you're female, car insurance is 30% cheaper. Female schoolteachers can look after male and female kids on a multiple day trip, but male teachers can only watch male kids. Only women get any say on abortions. In a rape/domestic assault the law tends to be on the womans side.

Good luck seeing that addressed. (The retirement age is being sorted, but not for another decade or something stupid)

 

[Baldry]

Can you name some specific examples of why you think that way OP? Just curious.

ok then...I know of one story where a bunch of woman wanted to do a nude calender shot, but the local feminist group stop them from doing it because they said that it was sexist and degrading. And also that in the 1960's thay called playboy empowering and now they call in sexist.

Those are shoddy reasons, just because they didn't want ladies getting their bresticules out they go to far is what I get from your reasons!

Uhm no I don't think it has, well not in recent years anyway, I don't here anything that they've done in recent years that was too extreme!

 

[Citizen.Erased]

It will never go far enough. There will always be misogyny and I laugh at those who say that women are 'equal' in the western world. I am fucking proud to be a feminist.

Being a feminist means to me is that maybe one day women will make as much money as men, that they will have more chances of being employed into high positions, that violence against women will stop being brushed aside, that we will stop living in a rape culture, that we will stop being seen as sex objects or baby making machines and that men will stop thinking themselves better than us.

 

[chinangel]

Yes they stepped over the line when they wanted to vote....!!!
(Dont know why Im saying "they" when I myself am one of "them"?)

But seriously even being female I think some women need to get off their high bloody horse and chill out about what they sometimes call 'equality'.

This. Also,

Feminism was originally for wanting the vote and equality. However I don't think we can ever have true equality. There are just some things men will always be better at, and some things women will always be better at. That is fine to me.

 

[Sgt Doom]

It will never go far enough. There will always be misogyny and I laugh at those who say that women are 'equal' in the western world. I am fucking proud to be a feminist.

Being a feminist means to me is that maybe one day women will make as much money as men, that they will have more chances of being employed into high positions, that violence against women will stop being brushed aside, that we will stop living in a rape culture, that we will stop being seen as sex objects or baby making machines and that men will stop thinking themselves better than us.

Bloody hell, what kind of men have you encountered?
I can't name a single one of my mates, or indeed any male I know, who thinks anything like that.