Four year old Texas boy suspended due to long hair

[DeleteThisPlease]

School rule or not, it's bullcrud.

It's not a major distraction of any kind! I don't see why it's so importent that he has short hair!

 

[Pimppeter2]

God dammit, I gotta ask.

Fallow? It doesn't come up as a typo, and yet I think you're suppossed to say Follow.

It's driving me insane.

Its late and I've been working all day. And then I've had this whole fiasco on top of it.

I dunno why I keep doing it, I just am. It'll pass by tomorrow.

 

[Shoggoth2588]

I must protect my fellow long haired people!
Long haired people UNITE!

I'm with you Brother Blue! We're Here, You-can't-see-our-ears, Get used to it!

OT: I agree with the parents. I see no reason why their child has to be segregated because of a little extra hair. Like they said, no liberty spikes or, wild colors. It's that kind of restrictive attitude which spawns the defiance that would make the kid want to dye his hair and do other socially unacceptable things to himself. The kid isn't even in a privet school!

 

[Bat Vader]

I think you're all missing what Pimp is saying which is why some of you think it's weird..
He's not saying that he agrees with the dress code, or that the school is reasonable.
He is saying that the parents are making a big deal out of something that is causing trouble for their kid and are going about it the wrong way.

They're fighting the suspension, which was just according to the rules. They should be fighting to get the dress code changed which does mean that they'll have to comply in the meantime or they'll be suffering the consequences of breaking the rule until it's changed.

THANK YOU

I would bake you cookies and send them to you if I could (or knew how )

How is it causing problems for the kid?

Oh I can answer that one, 1) He's being alienated from his friends from which hamper how he works, 2) His education is being hampered due to being removed from class, and 3) he has undue attention being drawn upon him.

The first two are caused solely by the school. If they would stop being Orwellian nutjobs then this wouldn't happen. The third one makes no sense. Undue attention? How is this a problem?

I think both the parents and the school are at fault for not being able to compromise over the situation. The school has a policy against children with long hair and I do believe that rule needs to be followed. At the same time I do agree with the parents that the rule is silly and he should have a right to have long hair.

This kid is being denied an education just because of long hair. In my opinion education is far more important than long hair. Neither side is going to give up willingly so one of them has to be the better man and I think it should be the parents. If they shave some of his hair off it will allow him to go back to school.

In the end the only compromise I could see is if the parents home schooled him. Which would pry be the best option.

Both the school and the parents have turned a mole hill into a mountain.

He IS getting an education. I've gotten enough ISS to know that.

He is? It seems to me that he is being denied one. Like I said, both parents and the school are being massively dumb in this. One just needs to be the better man and concede.

 

[saxist01]

God dammit, I gotta ask.

Fallow? It doesn't come up as a typo, and yet I think you're suppossed to say Follow.

It's driving me insane.

It doesn't appear as a typo because "fallow" is a word, although not the right one here. It means leaving a plot of land unseeded in order to recover nutrients.

 

[Bat Vader]

I think you're all missing what Pimp is saying which is why some of you think it's weird..
He's not saying that he agrees with the dress code, or that the school is reasonable.
He is saying that the parents are making a big deal out of something that is causing trouble for their kid and are going about it the wrong way.

They're fighting the suspension, which was just according to the rules. They should be fighting to get the dress code changed which does mean that they'll have to comply in the meantime or they'll be suffering the consequences of breaking the rule until it's changed.

THANK YOU

I would bake you cookies and send them to you if I could (or knew how )

How is it causing problems for the kid?

Oh I can answer that one, 1) He's being alienated from his friends from which hamper how he works, 2) His education is being hampered due to being removed from class, and 3) he has undue attention being drawn upon him.

The first two are caused solely by the school. If they would stop being Orwellian nutjobs then this wouldn't happen. The third one makes no sense. Undue attention? How is this a problem?

I think both the parents and the school are at fault for not being able to compromise over the situation. The school has a policy against children with long hair and I do believe that rule needs to be followed. At the same time I do agree with the parents that the rule is silly and he should have a right to have long hair.

This kid is being denied an education just because of long hair. In my opinion education is far more important than long hair. Neither side is going to give up willingly so one of them has to be the better man and I think it should be the parents. If they shave some of his hair off it will allow him to go back to school.

In the end the only compromise I could see is if the parents home schooled him. Which would pry be the best option.

Both the school and the parents have turned a mole hill into a mountain.

He IS getting an education. I've gotten enough ISS to know that.

He is? It seems to me that he is being denied one. Like I said, both parents and the school are being massively dumb in this. One just needs to be the better man her an concede.

Trust me. The video says he has ISS, just not using those words. So, he's getting an education, just not alongside others.

As long as he is still getting an education that is all that matters to me. I have long hair and I have to wear a hat at work (which I hate, The hat not the work place) but it is for health reasons. I deliver food and my hair could fall into the food.

 

[ionpulse2]

(I would quote it, but it's too much text. Just consider this a response to almost all responses after my prev. response)

We have a structure of society to provide order to the otherwise chaos of life on Earth. This is good. However, it is carefully balanced between the groups of society. For now, let's just generalize them into two groups: government and citizens. The government watches over the citizens, and provides them with the means to live productive, happy lives. In return, the citizens provide the workforce and capital for the government. When they are balanced, you have prosperity. But when one has too much influence over the other, problems arise.

This problem is what we now face here in the United States. Our government should regulate us to a point, however, it should not suffocate us. Ours is starting to do just this. This is an isolated incident, no doubt. But it is symbolic of the problems we, as a nation, fight in this day and age. The difference between the past and the present? We are no longer the great freedom fighters we once were, we are now spineless drones, content to live our lives as such, for as long as we are told to live them.

A poster above me made a good point: this IS starting to resemble an Orwellian situation here, isn't it? The parents of this child need to fight this as high and as far as they have the means to do, this case could very well determine a new period in our history. It might not, of course. But it might. If it does, than do you really want to say that you sided with the School on this one? I stated it before, but I will state it again, just to make sure you all get it:

Situations like this snowball out of control unless people are willing to stop it.

 

[ShinyMagnum]

If it's a safety hazard it could be tied up, but it's not so leave him be.
Rules aren't necessarily there for any good reason take this for example http://blog.lorla.com/top-10-british-stupid-laws-thou-shalt-not-die/ plus if we followed everything we signed up to (even though frankly few would read) http://www.eulahallofshame.com/microsoft/frontpage.html this sort of nonsense would ensue.

 

[Bat Vader]

Hey people with long hair, can you give me a reason why you have long hair besides it's different then everyone else? And don't say I look better with it, because you would look better with normal hair.

Main reason I am growing my hair long is for the next Ohayocon. I am trying to grow it long because I want to cosplay as Edward Elric from Fullmetal Alchemist. Plus, I like having long hair. It makes it so I don't have to make eye contact with people, which is always a good thing with my low self-esteem.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

The video no worky. SO for all I know you could be making it up.

Source needed

I thoght the U.S were "the land of the free", or something like that. Doesn't this undermine that statement just a tad

If its against school rules, then its against school rules.

And if the school rules are against the constitutional rights, then they are illegal. I like playing this game.

[HEADING=3]ERRRRR WRONG[/HEADING]

When the parents sign the sheet they agree to fallow the rules.

For example, it is legal for me to have cigarettes. Thought if I bring them to school they confiscate them and punish me. Because there is a rule that was made clear to me from day one that there are no cigarettes allowed on school property.

If I join a club that which has an no swearing rule, I can't complain when they kick me out for telling another member to fuck off

To put it even simpler

When you joined the Escapist, you agreed to the terms and conditions to follow the rules. If a mod bans you for calling him a 'fucking douchebag'. You can't go ahead and pull the Freedom of Speech Card. You agreed to follow the rules, or be banned.

If you think the schools being petty, I think the parents are being petty for making the kid go through all of this. Something they could have stopped the next day.

Segregating a four year old kid, no matter what it says on some sheet of paper based on appearance is against the law. Last time I checked school rules don't overrule state or federal law. Let alone the constitution. And your "Escapist T&C" example is mute since this is a site available to the international community.

Owning cigarettes isn't a constitutional right, so nice try on that example.

And the right so free speech has been so twisted it's lost all meaning.

This'll go to court and the school will be told to lift the rule. Just like what happened when Tennessee decided to charge people who taught evolution.

 

[ionpulse2]

Hey people with long hair, can you give me a reason why you have long hair besides it's different then everyone else? And don't say I look better with it, because you would look better with normal hair.

So would you rather everyone have the same hair? While we're at it, let's make it all the same colour too, say blonde maybe?

OOH, and let's have the same colour eyes too! Blue! Because everyone likes blue eyes, amirite?

And then we can kill off everyone who doesn't look exactly like that. That way, we don't have any not-so-good-looking chaps with long hair mucking up our nice clean society.

Wait a minute, I've heard this before... OH! That's right! That was Hitler's idea.

EDIT: DAMNIT GODWINS LAW STRIKES AGAIN

 

[Bat Vader]

Hey people with long hair, can you give me a reason why you have long hair besides it's different then everyone else? And don't say I look better with it, because you would look better with normal hair.

So would you rather everyone have the same hair? While we're at it, let's make it all the same colour too, say blonde maybe?

OOH, and let's have the same colour eyes too! Blue! Because everyone likes blue eyes, amirite?

And then we can kill off everyone who doesn't look exactly like that. That way, we don't have any not-so-good-looking chaps with long hair mucking up our nice clean society.

Wait a minute, I've heard this before... OH! That's right! That was Hitler's idea.

I highly doubt one school trying to get a kid's hair cut classifies as Hitler's idea.

I think people are just blowing this out of proportion. It isn't fascism, it is just two parties trying to get what they want and both parties are mostly ignoring what the kid wants.

I say just home school the kid. It is the best possible compromise.

 

[HontooNoNeko]

Hey people with long hair, can you give me a reason why you have long hair besides it's different then everyone else? And don't say I look better with it, because you would look better with normal hair.

Alright I'm 99% convinced your a troll now everything you've said is to demean someone are you really trying or does that seem natural to you? "because you would look better with normal hair" I don't suppose you know me by any chance? Why are you so against people who have different Ideas of beauty than your own I don't suppose anyone with long hair said its stupid to have short hair have they?

I have long hair because my skin is sensitive to the sun and I don't need to wear a hat during winter considering your hair prevents some of the heat escaping from your ears. Those are the 2 reasons and those were the reasons we had hair to begin with. I don't like wearing hats its uncomfortable for me.

 

[ionpulse2]

I highly doubt one school trying to get a kid's hair cut classifies as Hitler's idea.

I think people are just blowing this out of proportion. It isn't fascism, it is just two parties trying to get what they want and both parties are mostly ignoring what the kid wants.

I say just home school the kid. It is the best possible compromise.

That wasn't my point at all. I was being facetious number one, so don't go getting your knickers in a twist.

Number 2, home school does NOT solve the problem. If anything, this will make him feel even MORE isolated and freakish and self concious. Compromise is good, but situations like this are NOT the time to compromise. There is the potential for way too much to be at stake here.

REPETITION FOR THE SLOW: Situations like this can snowball out of control unless people are willing to stop it.