Four year old Texas boy suspended due to long hair

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lacktheknack

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Trist66 said:
also, long hair is dumb. Seriously guys cut it. I understand you are all "free thinking individuals" or whatever, but i really don't want to stare at your greasy hair all day. Girls hair is not as greasy as guys, so they can continue, but on guys it's just gross. If you're going to keep your hair long, keep it in a ponytail or trimmed.
Nice avatar.
 

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Every shool, workplace, etc has their own rules and regulations that you should know BEFORE you join, however this seems really trivial and their saying its a distraction, Bollocks, he just wants to see his friends, their all making far to big a deal about this, its just a 5 year olds hair. And now one side will go on about how its against his rights and the other side will be to proud just to let it go and it will take ages to get sorted and the whole time the kid will be more and more affected.
 

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Pimppeter2 said:
[HEADING=2]When you joined the Escapist, you agreed to the terms and conditions to follow the rules. If a mod bans you for calling him a 'fucking douchebag'. You can't go ahead and pull the Freedom of Speech Card. You agreed to fallow the rules, or be banned.[/HEADING]
OK lets use some metaphors, you have just joined an organisation, in this orgonistion you must kill some one. if you don't you are kicked out, but if you do you go to jail think about it. the laws of the land > the laws of the organisation. i can call the moderator a "f***ing do****bag" and wave the freedom of speech but in the court of law which would you think can stand the stronger argument. anything to do with your rules i will stand by but anything as mad as that comment i can only mock.
 

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Freedomario said:
Beardon65 said:
Freedomario said:
What the heck Texas That is NOT Distracting, Someone in my English class has a MOHAWK and its ALLOWED BY THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. Plus he's FOUR YEARS OLD! Geez. Dummkopfs.

/rage
It's not every Texas school is strict about that. I have that, oh what's that called... ducktail, is that what they call it? Whatever, it goes past the collar, which is against school policy and I've never been consulted about it let alone suspended. And why cut it? Obviously the kid was trying to sport a mullet. Do you have any idea how hard that is to grow? Let alone how long? What is wrong with the system nowadays.
I know, I know, it just makes me mad that I LIVE In Texas The one that's seemingly getting overrun by idiots 'bout now.

/moar rage
I know, I think we're all getting sick of it. It makes me even madder that when people think of all us Texans they might think of those idiots. People need to stop thinking everyone's the same...
 

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barguest said:
this is discrimination i have long hair myself and most of my friends do to if you actually told us this we would point something out on you and tell you to change it and to be frank you wouldn't do it so why should we change ourselves just because one person says so.
Obviously not just one person, seeing as it's there are rules for hair length in a school district in Texas. And how is it discrimination? Discrimination would be if i said all black people should die. They cannot change the color of their skin. You, however, can change the length of your hair (unless you are bald, but now I'm just splitting [u}hairs[/u][haha get it?]). Short hair keeps you cool, doesn't require as much maintenance, and looks a lot more professional. Obviously sometimes long hair looks good on guys, but i doubt that everyone in your group (which i'm going to assume is comprised of metal heads) looks good with it. Most of the people are probably doing it so they can fit in with that group. When you are older, do you really want to look back and think "wow that was a weird phase of my life"?
I have already said my part on this thread but I can not help myself you sir are either a troll or deprived of a dictionary.
Definition of discrimination:
Treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit.
Racism as you described is under the category of discrimination not defining it.

No one is forcing you to look at guys with long hair so please stop and I won't look your way either.
 

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Pimppeter2 said:
AzrealMaximillion said:
Pimppeter2 said:
The video no worky. SO for all I know you could be making it up.

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robert632 said:
I thoght the U.S were "the land of the free", or something like that. Doesn't this undermine that statement just a tad
If its against school rules, then its against school rules.
And if the school rules are against the constitutional rights, then they are illegal. I like playing this game.
[HEADING=3]ERRRRR WRONG[/HEADING]

When the parents sign the sheet they agree to fallow the rules.

For example, it is legal for me to have cigarettes. Thought if I bring them to school they confiscate them and punish me. Because there is a rule that was made clear to me from day one that there are no cigarettes allowed on school property.

If I join a club that which has an no swearing rule, I can't complain when they kick me out for telling another member to fuck off

To put it even simpler

[HEADING=2]When you joined the Escapist, you agreed to the terms and conditions to fallow the rules. If a mod bans you for calling him a 'fucking douchebag'. You can't go ahead and pull the Freedom of Speech Card. You agreed to fallow the rules, or be banned.[/HEADING]


If you think the schools being petty, I think the parents are being petty for making the kid go through all of this. Something they could have stopped the next day.
ARGH! I'm no Grammer Nazi but dear god IT'S FOLLOW NOT FALLOW!
 

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faye goat said:
only faggots have long hair anyway so what does it matter
Roger, banhammer incoming.

OT: This isn't right. Hell, I had a kid in my class with hair down below his shoulders and he wasn't punished. I think the schools were a bit too harsh there.
 

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Schools are just getting dumber and dumber. Do they think the kid is going to buy some drugs or something because he has long hair. Thats profiling.
 

Blatherscythe

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This is idiotic. He has long hair and he likes it, why shave it off? Because it seems that it's distracting to the other students. Whoever said that never saw how a classroom functions, everything in the room is a distraction from the teachers boring voice. That's just how kids are.
 

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-AC80- said:
i can call the moderator a "f***ing do****bag" and wave the freedom of speech but in the court of law which would you think can stand the stronger argument..
Actually no, you can't. :/

If you were to say sue the Escapist for banning you, claiming that it is free speech. You would get laughed out of the courthouse. You agreed not to sass the Moderation team when you joined. Its in the rules. You agreed to fallow the rules when you joined. Therefore, you also agreed that you are liable to the punishment the Escapist bestows for breaking those rules.

Your metaphor makes no sense. At all. It has absolutely no relevance. In fact, I think that you can't grasp the simple concept. The Schools rules are not over the rules of the Constitution. However, within the jurisdiction of the school, they have the right to kick you out for breaking those rules. They do not have the right to arrest you, but they do have the right to kick you out.

The organization has the right to kick you out of their group for not killing people.

I'll assume you play video games. Let's assume you play online. When you made your (lets say) Xbox Live account, you agreed not to harass other people online. Lets say, you get angry at someone and you send them a handful of angry threatening messages. This person reports you to MS. MS banns you from Xbox LIVE. Those were the rules you agreed to fallow. If you harass someone, you get booted. You can't sue MS for banning your account.

Bottom line: Its a legal document. When the parents enrolled the child, they signed a legal document fully knowing that the school can punish their students based on the rules they have instilled within their own institution.

Its the same reason you can get up and call a teacher a fuckin moron.

HG131 said:
Pimppeter2, personally. I think he has been hacked.
Why do people keep saying that to me? How am I acting different?
 

Pimppeter2

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SinisterSpade|LH| said:
I never signed any EULA when I went to school.
Actually, your parents did.

And yeah, my example wasn't all that hot, but your getting down to technicalities.
 

Deleric

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Erm, this coming from another Texan like myself...

I have long hair. Not once have I even been berated by a staff member for it.

Ergo, this school is fucking stupid.
 

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When you joined the Escapist, you agreed to the terms and conditions to fallow the rules. If a mod bans you for calling him a 'fucking douchebag'. You can't go ahead and pull the Freedom of Speech Card. You agreed to fallow the rules, or be banned.
The difference being, you don't sign a contract when you pay your taxes, and the state can only guarantee the offer of one school place.

If we were dealing with a private school, then fair enough. We aren't, however, and there are often no other schools available (and many won't take from outside their catchment areas anyhow). Whereas with the Escapist and forums there's actual choice, in this case, people are obliged to pay first. There's no competition from another state, so the means of resolving the matter is to go through low-level local politics. This is what these people appear to be doing.
 

Treblaine

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Treblaine said:
There is sexism and then there is practicality.

There is NO POINT trying to dumbly apply the exact same rules for males and females as if they are the same when they are not.
Wait what?

If boys have to keep their hair short because it can be "distracting", then it should be just as distracting for females.
I grew my hair long when I went to university, not because I particularly wanted to grow my hair long, just that I couldn't be bothered to ever get it cut. As I believe is the case here.

But when women have their hair long they do one thing almost all long haired boys never do... they STYLE it! They cut it, shape it and treat it so that it isn't just let to grow down over the eyes, like the way I did and this kid did. It takes meticulous dedication for personal grooming that to be honest almost all males severely lack.

When guys tend to grow their hair long, it's less a case of a conscious decision and more a case of completely neglecting to ever go to the barbers. In my case where I just let my hair grow it was bloody annoying and it WAS distracting. The hair on my hairline was long enough to flop right over my face yet too short to hook behind by ears or tie with a band at the back of my head. My only solution was (what i now realise is ridiculous) was a bloody bandanna like Solid Snake!

Now the case here can be if the student can't be bothered (nor parents be bothered) to get their hair cut then they are very likely not to bother with proper measures of tying it back.

So yes, this rule is based on sexism but sexism which can be quite accurate and in spirit I support it including in this case. But clearly the wordings and semantics need to be adjusted to take account for certain religious minorities. Perhaps a clause correcting for how a male student can have long hair if they prove they can keep it out of their face.