Four year old Texas boy suspended due to long hair

[Hurray Forums]

The school system and the parents are stupid in this case. The parents are stupid for not following the rules, and the school system is stupid for having such a dumb rule in the first place. The crowning moment of failure in this parade of idiocy is that they are letting the child's education suffer so they can have a pissing match over values. Both the school and the parents should place the education of the child over crap like this. The school nor the parents are suffering in this case, just the child, and that proves that both parties are in the wrong in this argument since their primary concern should be the child. When fcking hair is higher in importance then a child's education, you know something is wrong.

 

[Pimppeter2]

Pimppeter2, personally. I think he has been hacked.

Why do people keep saying that to me? How am I acting different?

You've been saying stuff that contradicts what you have been saying beforehand.

Like what?

Because honestly I'm baffled. That's like the third time someones said that.

 

[Skinny Razor]

Snip

Okay then

...because his long locks violate the district dress code

So yeah, the suspension is completely and totally just. Its in the dress code, which is made public to everyone who joined

Plus, we're talkin elementary school people. Its not like he's not going to be able to go to college because of this.

I didn't watch the vid, so I'm a little confused: do kids really start school at 4 in Texas? I thought 6 was the age for kindergarteners.

Personally, seems like much ado about absolutely bubkis, but with that kind of attitude by helicopter parents instilled at 4, his college years could be one high-pitched whiny catastrophe.
Okay, WILL be.

 

[Grayjack]

Snip

Okay then

...because his long locks violate the district dress code

So yeah, the suspension is completely and totally just. Its in the dress code, which is made public to everyone who joined

Plus, we're talkin elementary school people. Its not like he's not going to be able to go to college because of this.

I didn't watch the vid, so I'm a little confused: do kids really start school at 4 in Texas? I thought 6 was the age for kindergarteners.

Personally, seems like much ado about absolutely bubkis, but with that kind of attitude by helicopter parents instilled at 4, his college years could be one high-pitched whiny catastrophe.
Okay, WILL be.

He was in Pre-K.

 

[Rainboq]

Pimppeter2, personally. I think he has been hacked.

Why do people keep saying that to me? How am I acting different?

You've been saying stuff that contradicts what you have been saying beforehand.

Like what?

Because honestly I'm baffled. That's like the third time someones said that.

Look at your first post in the thread Pimp, there's a note from the mods

 

[Pimppeter2]

Look at your first post in the thread Pimp, there's a note from the mods

Err no there isn't?

That my own edit. Its part of my argument.

 

[Rainboq]

Look at your first post in the thread Pimp, there's a note from the mods

Err no there isn't?

That my own edit. Its part of my argument.

yeah, well that has a lot of us perplexed, maybe you should say something about that

 

[Firia]

There is sexism and then there is practicality.

There is NO POINT trying to dumbly apply the exact same rules for males and females as if they are the same when they are not.

Wait what?

If boys have to keep their hair short because it can be "distracting", then it should be just as distracting for females.

I grew my hair long when I went to university, not because I particularly wanted to grow my hair long, just that I couldn't be bothered to ever get it cut. As I believe is the case here.

But when women have their hair long they do one thing almost all long haired boys never do... they STYLE it! They cut it, shape it and treat it so that it isn't just let to grow down over the eyes, like the way I did and this kid did. It takes meticulous dedication for personal grooming that to be honest almost all males severely lack.

When guys tend to grow their hair long, it's less a case of a conscious decision and more a case of completely neglecting to ever go to the barbers. In my case where I just let my hair grow it was bloody annoying and it WAS distracting. The hair on my hairline was long enough to flop right over my face yet too short to hook behind by ears or tie with a band at the back of my head. My only solution was (what i now realise is ridiculous) was a bloody bandanna like Solid Snake!

Now the case here can be if the student can't be bothered (nor parents be bothered) to get their hair cut then they are very likely not to bother with proper measures of tying it back.

So yes, this rule is based on sexism but sexism which can be quite accurate and in spirit I support it including in this case. But clearly the wordings and semantics need to be adjusted to take account for certain religious minorities. Perhaps a clause correcting for how a
male student can have long hair if they prove they can keep it out of their face.

I'm going to interject here, because I wanted to ask a question.

Treblaine, you raise a very good point, about treating hair, and neglecting hair. Even when I go an extended period of not getting my hair styled (by myself or otherwise), my solution to keeping it civil is a bandanna.

So I'm curious now, what you have to say on the topic if it were just the same- no changes in the story, but the one difference being the boys hair being beautifully styled. Same scenario; boy kicked out of his school for having long hair (dress code and all that), but it's been styled to look wonderful, and not neglected at all.

 

[whaleswiththumbs]

I must protect my fellow long haired people!
Long haired people UNITE!

Long Haired Power ACTIVATE!

 

[IHateDaManSkirt]

Children have no rights, they are not considered 'people' under the law till they are able to legally sign their own name. Sure, they have some protections but protections are not rights... even animals have protection under the law.

Really? 1:Where does it say that? and 2:I still have other back-ups for saying whatever I want. The "Religion" part of the first amendment works quite nicely when I say I'm a Yoist(I'm not, though.); it's as funny as you think when a teacher realizes they just got "pwned" by a 10 year-old student(The age I was when I last used this method)

 

[Polyintrinsic]

The video no worky. SO for all I know you could be making it up.

Source needed

I thoght the U.S were "the land of the free", or something like that. Doesn't this undermine that statement just a tad

If its against school rules, then its against school rules.

And if the school rules are against the constitutional rights, then they are illegal. I like playing this game.

[HEADING=3]ERRRRR WRONG[/HEADING]

When the parents sign the sheet they agree to fallow the rules.

For example, it is legal for me to have cigarettes. Thought if I bring them to school they confiscate them and punish me. Because there is a rule that was made clear to me from day one that there are no cigarettes allowed on school property.

If I join a club that which has an no swearing rule, I can't complain when they kick me out for telling another member to fuck off

To put it even simpler

When you joined the Escapist, you agreed to the terms and conditions to follow the rules. If a mod bans you for calling him a 'fucking douchebag'. You can't go ahead and pull the Freedom of Speech Card. You agreed to follow the rules, or be banned.

If you think the schools being petty, I think the parents are being petty for making the kid go through all of this. Something they could have stopped the next day.

You are such a weiner! Just because it`s a rule doesn`t mean it should exist.

 

[Pimppeter2]

You are such a weiner! Just because it`s a rule doesn`t mean it should exist.

Ohh you're totally right!

How about tomorrow you go to school dressed in gang colors, a hat, and a shirt that says fuck the police on it. And if you have a sister, she should go in her bra and panties!

 

[Treblaine]

There is sexism and then there is practicality.

There is NO POINT trying to dumbly apply the exact same rules for males and females as if they are the same when they are not.

Wait what?

If boys have to keep their hair short because it can be "distracting", then it should be just as distracting for females.

I grew my hair long when I went to university, not because I particularly wanted to grow my hair long, just that I couldn't be bothered to ever get it cut. As I believe is the case here.

But when women have their hair long they do one thing almost all long haired boys never do... they STYLE it! They cut it, shape it and treat it so that it isn't just let to grow down over the eyes, like the way I did and this kid did. It takes meticulous dedication for personal grooming that to be honest almost all males severely lack.

When guys tend to grow their hair long, it's less a case of a conscious decision and more a case of completely neglecting to ever go to the barbers. In my case where I just let my hair grow it was bloody annoying and it WAS distracting. The hair on my hairline was long enough to flop right over my face yet too short to hook behind by ears or tie with a band at the back of my head. My only solution was (what i now realise is ridiculous) was a bloody bandanna like Solid Snake!

Now the case here can be if the student can't be bothered (nor parents be bothered) to get their hair cut then they are very likely not to bother with proper measures of tying it back.

So yes, this rule is based on sexism but sexism which can be quite accurate and in spirit I support it including in this case. But clearly the wordings and semantics need to be adjusted to take account for certain religious minorities. Perhaps a clause correcting for how a
male student can have long hair if they prove they can keep it out of their face.

I'm going to interject here, because I wanted to ask a question.

Treblaine, you raise a very good point, about treating hair, and neglecting hair. Even when I go an extended period of not getting my hair styled (by myself or otherwise), my solution to keeping it civil is a bandanna.

So I'm curious now, what you have to say on the topic if it were just the same- no changes in the story, but the one difference being the boys hair being beautifully styled. Same scenario; boy kicked out of his school for having long hair (dress code and all that), but it's been styled to look wonderful, and not neglected at all.

Well I believe I said somewhere that although I disagree with the rule as it is, the spirit of the rule is still fundamentally just. It's the semantics that need to be ironed out.

Hmm, styled as in fringe either cut back or the hair treated long enough that the fringe hair gets long enough to be tied back or hooked over the ears? Well the wording of this particular rule still would not allow for that... probably because they perceive it as so bloody rare for that to be the case with a boy.

I've known gays who REALLY show meticulous attention to their hair... but they all wear it short and I'm pretty sure even gays don't like their hair long. So I don't think that's a factor.

Again, MOST boys don't grow their hair long, and MOST of the boys who DO grow it long only do so precisely because they can't be bothered visiting a barber once a month. So a pretty small proportion want both long hair and the barbers.

Shaping long hair is much harder than dealing with short hair. I can only speak for myself as an ex-longhair but if I was required cut and treat my long hair to keep it out of my eyes... well then it defeats the purpose of me ever growing my hair long, which was to avoid ever having to bother to cut it!
I might as well just have it cut as short as possible (without being short enough to look like a skinhead) so I can go as long as possible before I have to go to the barbers again.

BUT... laws of probability, it's just going to happen. You're going to get some little Fabio who wears his hair pretty much exactly like a girl and then the rule book that worked fine 99% of the time can just get thrown out the window.

So in conclusion, screw what I said before this school should just get rid of any specific rules on hair styles and just leave it up to executive discretion (i.e. come in to school with a mohawk and you'll have to justify it to the Principal). bet not because of this particular case that the OP showed, but for the hypothetical mini-Fabios.

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Side Note: I'm not that old to be nostalgic of the "good old days" but when did barbers become as chatty as "hair stylists"? Seriously, I'm stressed enough that you are going to cut my hair to make me look like an idiot, so what the fuck is with all the personal questions?!?! Maybe because I grew up overseas (oil-brat) foreign barbers seem to be the old school type that just stay quiet and focused on not screwing up your do.

 

[WorldCritic]

That principal is a *****.

 

[Donttazemehbro]

I thoght the U.S were "the land of the free", or something like that. Doesn't this undermine that statement just a tad

just a little

 

[Carlston]

The video no worky. SO for all I know you could be making it up.

Source needed

I thoght the U.S were "the land of the free", or something like that. Doesn't this undermine that statement just a tad

If its against school rules, then its against school rules.

EDIT: When you joined the Escapist, you agreed to the terms and conditions to follow the rules. If a mod bans you for calling him a 'fucking douchebag'. You can't go ahead and pull the Freedom of Speech Card. You agreed to follow the rules, or be banned.

If a boy can't have his hair past his collar and a girl can it's sexist. Sorry, the days of lice and greasy hair is over. It's just another grasp at 50's conformist bs. It's hair... when they shave the girls heads down to, then it is a valid rule.

 

[dududf]

What the heck Texas That is NOT Distracting, Someone in my English class has a MOHAWK and its ALLOWED BY THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. Plus he's FOUR YEARS OLD! Geez. Dummkopfs.

/rage

You're 3-5 years old? What?

Unless you've failed English A LOT, or that 4 year old is in a 13 or older's class. O_O

*Edit
I say this because you said he's 4 years old AND in your class.

 

[Hollock]

It's ridiculous, and his hair isn't even that long.

but it's their rules, and they have the right to be as stupid as they want with running it.