Four year old Texas boy suspended due to long hair

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SideburnsPuppy

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Mr. Blue Sky said:
I must protect my fellow long haired people!
Long haired people UNITE!
Whoa! Suddenly I just got the feeling somebody was calling me to...unite, or something.

On topic, it sounds like a strange rule, especially for an elementary school, and expulsion seems a bit harsh. In-house suspension I guess I can understand, though I was once kicked in the nuts and all the kid who did it got was a one-day in-house suspension, so it feels a little weird equating that with having slightly long hair.

His dad strikes me as a little strange (I know it's stereotyping, but I think it's all the tattoos and piercings); I wouldn't be surprised if he was the one who went to the press.

Since this is a few months old, does anybody know how this turned out?
 

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HG131 said:
Pimppeter2 said:
Polyintrinsic said:
You are such a weiner! Just because it`s a rule doesn`t mean it should exist.
Ohh you're totally right!

How about tomorrow you go to school dressed in gang colors, a hat, and a shirt that says fuck the police on it. And if you have a sister, she should go in her bra and panties!
This what I mean.

How?

Did anyone read the damn article?


The boy wasn't suspended for having long hair, he was suspended because his long hair broke the dress code. The dress code serves a valid function in keeping the school a learning environment. Sure, this rule may seem silly. But you have to enforce the rule.
 

Polyintrinsic

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Pimppeter2 said:
Polyintrinsic said:
You are such a weiner! Just because it`s a rule doesn`t mean it should exist.
Ohh you're totally right!

How about tomorrow you go to school dressed in gang colors, a hat, and a shirt that says fuck the police on it. And if you have a sister, she should go in her bra and panties!
See, those types of things are distracting; but long hair is not.
 

Roxas1359

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Pimppeter2 said:
HG131 said:
Pimppeter2 said:
Polyintrinsic said:
You are such a weiner! Just because it`s a rule doesn`t mean it should exist.
Ohh you're totally right!

How about tomorrow you go to school dressed in gang colors, a hat, and a shirt that says fuck the police on it. And if you have a sister, she should go in her bra and panties!
This what I mean.

How?

Did anyone read the damn article?


The boy wasn't suspended for having long hair, he was suspended because his long hair broke the dress code. The dress code serves a valid function in keeping the school a learning environment. Sure, this rule may seem silly. But you have to enforce the rule.
He is talking about how you are replying. It is a bit harsh, and is a bit offensive.
 

Lord RagnarawK

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Vanguard_Ex said:
Pimppeter2 said:
The video no worky. SO for all I know you could be making it up.

Source needed

robert632 said:
I thoght the U.S were "the land of the free", or something like that. Doesn't this undermine that statement just a tad
If its against school rules, then its against school rules.
Agreed. Freedom is not getting to do whatever you want, when you want.
do you just not know definitions? Freedom is doing whatever you want, but America isn't a free country like we say we are.
 

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Pimppeter2 said:
Have you been hacked? Because if you have, and you get suspended I'll PM the mods and attest as witness.[sub]This is a joke.[/sub]

Seriously though, Calm down you're a little... "on edge". Get some Endorphins in yeah ASAP :D
 

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This is one of those american things again, that I only see on TV. A bit like going to church every Sunday. Wearing a school uniform, or having to cut your hair for school, is completely unfathomable to me, as it probably is to most people living in Nordic countries.


It doesn't help, that The US generally doesn't do very well in the studies that compare educational systems, between different countries.
 

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Pimppeter2 said:
HG131 said:
Pimppeter2 said:
Polyintrinsic said:
You are such a weiner! Just because it`s a rule doesn`t mean it should exist.
Ohh you're totally right!

How about tomorrow you go to school dressed in gang colors, a hat, and a shirt that says fuck the police on it. And if you have a sister, she should go in her bra and panties!
This what I mean.

How?

Did anyone read the damn article?


The boy wasn't suspended for having long hair, he was suspended because his long hair broke the dress code. The dress code serves a valid function in keeping the school a learning environment. Sure, this rule may seem silly. But you have to enforce the rule.
Stop Pete, take a chill pill or get some sleep or something. I don't know if you've been hacked or in a bad mood or something but it's time to take a step back before you do something you'll regret and attract the mods.
 

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w1ndscar said:
If hes going to a private school, than the parents deserve a slap across the face because all private schools are like that. But if its just a public school, then I don't think they should be allowed to go that then.
Dont know if anyone has mentioned it, but the school was MISD. Any ISD means public school
 

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Maxieon said:
He is talking about how you are replying. It is a bit harsh, and is a bit offensive.
Frankly, I'm getting a little pissed off at the hack claims. Its unsettling.

Regardless, I am in a heated debate. I haven't personally insulted anyone, so I don't see how its offensive. I hate to be 'that guy', but if I do get in some sort of trouble for this I am packing my bags and leaving the Escapist. My tone may be aggressive, but it is in no way offensive.

Polyintrinsic said:
See, those types of things are distracting; but long hair is not.
It is according to the school. Thats why they made a rule against it in the Dress Code. Therefore they are completely just in their action.

Again, I said that it is petty of the school, but it doesn't mean that they are doing anything wrong. They're following the rules that they themselves have placed, and that the parents new about and agreed to follow. I don't see why its such a shock
 

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Firia said:
Con Carne said:
Firia said:
Con Carne said:
I have to admit, having to cut the kids hair does suck.
But a rule is a rule, and if that rule were made clear to the parents when they enrolled their child, then it's their fault. They should cut the boys hair.
A rule is a rule. But what is the purpose of a rule, if only to be a rule? Does it hurt anyone that this childs hair is longer than the social norm? Or is this rule in effect because principle (or higher) believes a boy/man should have short hair?

Ask yourself why rules and laws exist. Look for the reasons. Then ask if they're so nessessary as to need to be obeyed. In this case, I would say no. A rule is a rule only because someone says so, and has the authority to make it so. But the rule is unjust, and utilizes its authority on this family unfairly.
Unfairly? Really? I've had long hair for years, and I've been refused job positions because of them. I completely understood why. Because those are the rules of the place I applied at.
Do I think it's a stupid rule? Absolutely. But whatever the reason may be, the rule is there.
I'm assuming the parents more than likely knew the rule of their child's school before or upon enrollment. It's kinda like when Willy Wonka told the fat kid "Please don't eat the chocolate from the chocolate river." The little fatty german kid didn't listen and he got his big ass pumped up into the big tube.
It's a rule. Plain and simple. If the parents didn't like said rule, they shouldn't have let their kid go to that school.
What you're thinking about here is professionalism. In the business world, you convey an image, and a lot is said about this image. This is based on the social happenings of the past 30 to 40 years, really starting in the 1960's. Some places have rules of professionalism in place because of the image it projects. Long hair in the professional environment goes against that image.

The difference here is that this is a child, in school. He's like, six or something. He's not applying to a job, he's not required to abide by a social code that's been in place since the 1920's for men. what's more, he shouldn't be forced to.

This is what I'm talking about, when I say you should think about a rule before blindly following it. Rules are the social construction of people, and people are flawed. Work place professionalism? Short hair yes, because of what the social order has to say about professionalism. Elementry school short hair, because it's in the schools dress code? HOGWASH.
I already said it's a stupid rule. I agree the child's hair shouldn't be an issue.
Professionalism, or the social scene it's all about image. The school has the stupid rule. Whether or not the child knows better, the parents do. The hair should be cut if they want their child to attend THAT particular school. It's like sending your kid to a private school and not making them adhere to the dress code....then you shouldn't make your kids go to that school. It's common sense. Whether it's a civilian job, or a school, or the military. There are rules that are put in place for whatever the reason. But from the time we're able to start using logical thought, we're being prepared for the real world. Just about everything we do, is practically done to set us up for the "real world." But the great thing about us is the fact that we have the choice, to not deal with something we don't agree with. By sending their child to that school the agreed to abide by the school's rules. Now that the school is saying "You're breaking a rule, knock it off!" The parents suddenly don't wanna listen. The parents need to get over it and cut their child's hair or transfer him to a different school.
(The school could very well agree to let it slide, but you and I both know it probably won't happen. Because I reiterate....The "No Long Hair Rule" is stupid.)
 

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Parents are under no obligation to just "follow along" with the rules of a school district just because! While any school district can come up with its own rules and policies, ANY taxpayer can work to change these rules.
Yes. Schools are public institutions funded by public money. They can't just make up whatever rules they want. The public gets a say. That's the difference between a school and a private enterprise.
 

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Pimppeter2 said:
dududf said:
Maxieon said:
He is talking about how you are replying. It is a bit harsh, and is a bit offensive.
Frankly, I'm getting a little pissed off at the hack claims. Its unsettling.

Regardless, I am in a heated debate. I haven't personally insulted anyone, so I don't see how its offensive. I hate to be 'that guy', but if I do get in some sort of trouble for this I am packing my bags and leaving the Escapist. My tone may be aggressive, but it is in no way offensive.
You're coming across as an ass. You are normally not like this, so we assume you're pissed at something. (inb4 "I'm pissed at the people who say I am hacked" retort) Either take a chill pill, or I'd recommend leaving the Escapist for the night. Or would you rather that people who think of you fondly suddenly look at you not so fondly?

Don't let some idiots who don't understand that the kid was suspended for breaking a school rule bog you down. Hell you've made your point, you don't even need to follow up on anyone elses responses, you doing so is your own choice, and you are choosing to do so in a manner that is making you look like a douche.
 

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I love school policy. makes as much sense as seperartion of church and state which stops christians praying in school while if they prevent a musluem its racist.
I sort of think lol what?
 

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I think you're all missing what Pimp is saying which is why some of you think it's weird..
He's not saying that he agrees with the dress code, or that the school is reasonable.
He is saying that the parents are making a big deal out of something that is causing trouble for their kid and are going about it the wrong way.

They're fighting the suspension, which was just according to the rules. They should be fighting to get the dress code changed which does mean that they'll have to comply in the meantime or they'll be suffering the consequences of breaking the rule until it's changed.
 

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Again, I said that it is petty of the school, but it doesn't mean that they are doing anything wrong. They're following the rules that they themselves have placed, and that the parents new about and agreed to follow. I don't see why its such a shock If the rule is wrong you should fight it. Should we have never fought for women to get the right to vote? Should we have never fought to free the blacks? Should we have never fought to get blacks the right to vote? Should we have never fought to get rid of the Jim Crow laws? Should we have never fought for equal rights for all? Well?
I think there's a difference between equality between humans and a choice of hair style.

Don't get me wrong, the rule is stupid but just to look at it from another angle using the reason the school provided, They said it's distracting. Perhaps it's distracting in the upper grades, and for equality reasons they just decided to make it a uniform rule.