George Palmer said:
Therumancer said:
Pilots are supposed to capture the essence of a series, and I'm afraid I just don't think this one is worthwhile. I mean I'll give anything a chance a few times, but if I was hosting this site and had a number of features to choose from I'm not sure if I'd pick this one. On the other hand if it's all you've got, run with it.
I dunno who will read this but my thoughts were basically:
#1: It was horribly uncreative. It was basically ripping off "Knights Of The Dinner Table" in style (at least for the format) and making referances to decades old RPG scares...
old urban legend about some nerd who dressed up in armor and a sword to go hang out in the park and "live like his character" for a while. He allegedly found a bear, attacked it with his sword, and got mauled badly ...
I, personally, have never read/seen/viewed an episode of "knights of the Dinner Table". Im sure some people here at the Escapist have, but I haven't. But I'll check them out if you think its any good.
"making references to decades old RPG scares...". Perhaps the story of GameDogs take place decades ago. Guess you'll have to keep watching to find out! Which is, like, totally BITCHIN'!
Guy who lived in a suit of armor in the park and attacked bears? WTF?? What type of 'shrooms are you on? And, more specifically, where can I get some?
As far as the whole "who the hell brings a real sword..." thing. I personally have actually brought a real sword to a D&D game myself. So, yes, as nerdy as it may be, it does happen. More often than you would think. I've also see a mace, sword, bow&arrow, crossbow and a .22.
Knights Of The Dinner Table is a mixed bag, it started in Shadis magazine if I remember and then moved on to Dragon magazine and spawned a number of spin off productions. It's hit or miss. An entire joke RPG called "Hackmaster" (in the same spirit as Human Occupied Landfill, but actually sort of playable) was produced based on the strip since it was the game the gamers in the strip were usually playing. "Hackmaster" actually saw the release of supplements like monster manuals, and even an adventure module. It surprises me you haven't heard of it, because it's sort of famous within the PnP RPG community at least (as you might guess by the things that came from it).
The format is exactly what you presented there. The "strip" is a table with a GM and 3-4 players (depending on when) playing a game of Hackmaster (which is a direct satire of D&D) and making fun of RPG conventions and the industry in general, with a bit of self depreciating humor about gamers themselves thrown in from time to time as well. To be fair it's not worth running out to spend a fortune catching up on, but it HAS been around for at least a decade now it seems.
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As far as the guy attacking the bear goes, it's an Urban Legend mainly because it's hard to pin down details on. However it was probably based on true events. Perhaps it was accidental, but it's one of those things that has been part of the "RPG scare" right up there with the dude getting lost in the subway tunnels and dying (goofing off down there because they were like a dungeon), and the whole "Vampire Clan" thing that revolved around people taking Vampire way too seriously and a few adults involved in the gaming group ultimatly using it to have sex with much younger teens who were playing. Both of those are more verifiable.
Generally speaking the guy wasn't really supposed to have been "living in the park" but more or less heading out to go camping in the park to "live like his character" sort of like a LARP event but by himself. This also coming about long before LARPing was as common as it is now. Most of it was plausible to an extent since even then getting armor was relatively easy through groups like the SCA (though it can be expensive if your not patient enough to spend months making it yourself). As far as the guy being dumb enough to attack a bear with a sword, well... that's the hardest part to believe and the crux of the matter (running into a bear camping in a park is not unheard of depending on the location and size of the park). The point mostly being that the situation WAS stupid, and whether it happened or not is ultimatly irrelevent because it's one of the things dusted off in arguements against RPGs as an example of people losing attachment to reality. Your quite correct that it can be countered in most cases by pinning people down for details (who, where, etc...) and sometimes you'll get answers but most of them can be proven false. For example for a long time it was suggested that the guy went camping in Yellowstone (because of the bears) yet while there have been many bear maulings, one of the officials have ever confirmed a case of anyone ever having been mauled after attempting to attack a bear with a sword while wearing medieval armor. That said it probably DOES have a grain of truth because I can see some early LARP guy getting mauled (without having actually initiated an attack) and then surviving either blaming the game or having their family blame it for him going out there (probably with others) to do something so retarded. Ultimatly making the origin of the story no more than any other mauling of campers of a bear, other than the fact that the guys (or guy) camping were reinactors.
The specifics aren't important, if it wasn't intentional you have my apologies. It's just that as someone who spent years argueing with anti-RPG elements when I was much younger, I have no real desire to get it going on any noticible level again by mocking them enough to get it going again. RPG fans "won", we're acknowledged for what we are (a group of huge nerds), and are not seen as dangerous. Nobody is really concerned enough about it to the point where it gets into the mass media. Every once in a while someone will try and get it going on a talk show, but it fizzles out rapidly. Those who have strong "RPGs are evil" sentiments generally keep it to themselves. They pretty much let it die, so "we" need to
do the same instead of mocking them. I am probably wrong and overreacted, but that is sort of what this seemed to be about.
If this was taking place decades ago, it doesn't matter because your doing it NOW as a current production, and if that is the joke it's not going to matter to the people who it irritates who are being mocked no matter what. If something got going on The Escapist I'd speak against it of course, but I'd really prefer things just didn't go there. That's simply MY opinion. There is a differance between being un-politically correct, and intentionally looking to mock someone and maybe start a fight.