Games that ruin other games
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Yeah the stealth was well done... I loved how on that Nazi level if you explored the level you could find a way to get under the traintracks and skip all the shooting. Very cool.imperialreign said:
After playing Super Meat Boy (and, to some extent, VVVVVV) and then playing most other platformers, I'm disappointed that I can't nimbly leap through deathtraps at very high speed and in the most badass way possible. In a way, Super Meat boy is like Devil May Cry and the like, what with all the acrobatic violence and faffing about, except you actually get to control it.
Also, after a bout of Minecraft, I'm disappointed that in other games (and real life) you can't terraform the entire world and make a giant obsidian doom fortress.
Also, after a bout of Minecraft, I'm disappointed that in other games (and real life) you can't terraform the entire world and make a giant obsidian doom fortress.
Yep, between "Frontline" and "Black Station" - I really enjoyed playing a title where stealth was operable anf fun again. It's been ages.MiracleOfSound said:
But, at the same time, I've seen a lot of players complaining that stealth is broken in Metro (I've also seen a lot of people say the same about STALKER) . . . personally, I think it's too many people that aren't accustomed to how to properly play stealthy.
Thinking about it and this hasn't happened in a while, the last time was after I played Ratchet and Clank for the first time, all other cartoony platformers just seemed lame, especially Super Mario Sunshine, I love that game but always found myself comparing FLUDD to Clank.
Man now I want to play Ratchet and Clank, makes me wish I still had my PS2 or owned a PS3.
Man now I want to play Ratchet and Clank, makes me wish I still had my PS2 or owned a PS3.
I'd guess people got confused because certain parts of the game were designed for stealth only and they weren't paying attention to when they should be going loud.imperialreign said:
The sections against human AI were all possible to do quietly, it was when the mutants got invilved that stealth went out the window and spraying like a lunatic came into play!
Playing Team Fortress 2 with a group of friends who you can joke around with just absolutely ruined Call of Duty for me.
I'd rather be burned to death with a flamethrower while having a conversation on how awesome Chic-Fil-A is than get a random grenade kill while being told my mother is a filthy Jew-n*****-whore.
I'd rather be burned to death with a flamethrower while having a conversation on how awesome Chic-Fil-A is than get a random grenade kill while being told my mother is a filthy Jew-n*****-whore.
Arma 2 ruins every other military FPS.
I'm a hovering camera zooming around a broom closet firing Styrofoam balls at deja vu lemmings filled with maple syrup blood, using a gun that sounds like a Fischer Price drumset, and the game is over forever after the next cutscene. Oh well, at least my framerate is good.
Once shooters stop taking themselves seriously I can maybe enjoy them again.
I'm a hovering camera zooming around a broom closet firing Styrofoam balls at deja vu lemmings filled with maple syrup blood, using a gun that sounds like a Fischer Price drumset, and the game is over forever after the next cutscene. Oh well, at least my framerate is good.
Once shooters stop taking themselves seriously I can maybe enjoy them again.
Escape Velocity - any sort of space combat & trading SIM doesn't do it for me anymore. Got my fingers crossed for X3, or the occasional Privateer or Freelancer that still has a good short campaign but no replay value. It's one of my favourite genres and there's only one game in it.
Persona 3 FES - it really makes all other RPGs pale in comparison, the only ones that are still in the running are the likes of Baldur's Gate DA, Diablo or The Elder Scrolls - as each one has a significantly different focus, rather like how there's a difference between Unreal Tournament and Operation Flashpoint even though both are FPS games.
Thief: The Dark Project - it ruined pretty much all stealth games, as much as I like them, the only games with stealth elements I've liked since are Deus Ex and Arkham Asylum. People always talk about Metal Gear Solid having great stealth elements, but there's a weird disconnect between the hardcore realism and the entirely absurd handling of things. You just happen to have a bunch of types of camouflage that you can switch in and out of on the drop of a hat? No thanks.
Persona 3 FES - it really makes all other RPGs pale in comparison, the only ones that are still in the running are the likes of Baldur's Gate DA, Diablo or The Elder Scrolls - as each one has a significantly different focus, rather like how there's a difference between Unreal Tournament and Operation Flashpoint even though both are FPS games.
Thief: The Dark Project - it ruined pretty much all stealth games, as much as I like them, the only games with stealth elements I've liked since are Deus Ex and Arkham Asylum. People always talk about Metal Gear Solid having great stealth elements, but there's a weird disconnect between the hardcore realism and the entirely absurd handling of things. You just happen to have a bunch of types of camouflage that you can switch in and out of on the drop of a hat? No thanks.
I agree, though I don't find fallout 3 to be THAT different to NV (but NV improved it in many many ways), Im just a little confused with the whole Obsidian Bethedesa thingSimuLord said:
so Bethedesa did fallout 3 yes? but Obsidian did Fallout NV? are thease two companies related in any way?
They're related very tangentially, as in Bethesda pretty much supplied Obsidian with the game engine and a whole pile of art assets left over from Fallout 3, sparing Obsidian a LOT of development time and their artists a lot of work, since so much of FO3's stuff could simply be recycled.Vault101 said:
Bethesda, of course, published New Vegas, so there's that.
But beyond that, they're two different corporate animals, although Obsidian's comprised of a lot of the guys from Black Isle who created Fallout in the first place 13 years ago. Most of the New Vegas team worked on Fallout 1 and 2.
All of this and more is why the Timespitters series ruined FPS for the most partSoviet Heavy said:
imperialreign said:
Haven't played FEAR or Thief, but I can attest to STALKER ruining every FPS for me since I've played it. It's just too damn good.
Also, every "open-ended" RPG I've tried playing since Morrowind has been a listless experience.