Gaming is truly a waste of time
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I strongly disagree. Working and talking to friends is far from wasting time. Then what is time not wasted by your definition?voorhees123 said:
IMO, there's only 2 things to do in life:
1) The things we need to do
2) The things we want to do
You need to work, make money, go grocery shopping, get hair cuts etc etc
You want to relax, play games, hang with friends, drink/smoke, work out etc
So long as you take care of #1, do whatever the frack you want. It's not a waste of time if it's time you spend enjoying yourself - productive or not.
1) The things we need to do
2) The things we want to do
You need to work, make money, go grocery shopping, get hair cuts etc etc
You want to relax, play games, hang with friends, drink/smoke, work out etc
So long as you take care of #1, do whatever the frack you want. It's not a waste of time if it's time you spend enjoying yourself - productive or not.
There are more things besides gaming that are wastes of time. TV, books, music, art, movies, and any other form of manifested creativity that doesn't help the species, all can be considered a waste of time.
this is where things get complicated, first, it depends what movie/tv show/books you reading/watching. Sure there are some very intelligent games out there, but they're a rare find when compared to intelligent movies/books. Games you play for the stimulation/simulation, movies you watch for the story. And difference between movie and a game timewise is that you can put so much more time into a game than a movie, sure you can rewatch a movie, but it still trembles before games in how much time you can spend. If you look at it a certain way, reading books is a sort of self improvement, since you're exposing yourself to some of the greatest mind's ideas through reading, while having fun.Godavari said:
You know what? Other people are lame and doing stuff for other people is the true waste of time, energy and resources. But we have to to satisfy that loud, annoying voice in our heads that tells us not to be a complete bastard. It is only when we can silence that jerky conscience that we can do something truly worth our time: play video games, eat a pizza, punt tiny dogs that enjoy nipping at our heels whenever they get the chance, etc.
Not saying you should necessarily believe this, but keep it in mind the next time an elderly gentleman tells you to put down your DS because your community service activity for today is giving him a high colonic.
Not saying you should necessarily believe this, but keep it in mind the next time an elderly gentleman tells you to put down your DS because your community service activity for today is giving him a high colonic.
You don't get anything for living either. No persistent prizes to take with you down into that hole in the ground.
Do what you enjoy cause you only get one chance.
Do what you enjoy cause you only get one chance.
Not exactly new, I think its kind of obvious. But if I didnt have an outlet like games, I would have cracked by now...SantoUno said:
As many have stated above with your logic you would consider anything that is not "productive" as a waste of time. However the term productive is being loosely defined. You could argue that anything beyond keeping yourself alive, reproducing, and protecting your offspring is entirely a waste of time. Thus civilization as we know it is just a big waste of time. If you think about it, we might even be better off in terms of species survival if we never bothered to be "unproductive". Obviously the next line of thought would be to start defining productive in higher modern terms, all of which would revolve around what goal? Prolonging the three main points previously mentioned, but to what end purpose? Why to attempt to further those ... and I bet you can see where this is going. It's a boring cyclical thought process.
Now, we could take an alternate hypothesis and say that the only reason to be productive is to create more spare time to "waste". However, we don't really mean "waste", we really mean "experience" other things. One could argue that regardless of how much it truly accomplishes any act can still teach you something. What it teaches can vary wildly, and while some of those skills/feelings/ideas/etc... may not always serve an immediate personal and practical use, they may serve a purpose down the line or to someone else they are passed onto.
I present you this final closing story to illustrate:
I've had various conversations with my grandfather whom you could say was a down to Earth no-nonsense businessman of the past 80 or so years. He had no particular love or hate of things many of us were interested in, such as Computers, Video Games, and any other media aside from non-fiction or realistic fiction. Most of these conversations were in the realm of politics, general philosophy (without using actual philosophy terms/concepts as he considered it on the same level as fantasy), and business. After one of these conversations with some of my cousins and myself he asked me where I had learned some of the things we were talking about. He was surprised how much we agreed on, and while I know he didn't mean it as an insult, he knew where my general interests lied and they were pretty far from his. And so I explained to him that most of the ideas I had shared or discussed were learned or at least touched upon in the various games I played, books I read, and movies I watched (primarily fantasy and science fiction), and refined through interaction with him and others I've talked to or learned from. He finished with: "I might not get it, but you learned more then your dumb-ass cousin. Guess you're onto something."
Now, we could take an alternate hypothesis and say that the only reason to be productive is to create more spare time to "waste". However, we don't really mean "waste", we really mean "experience" other things. One could argue that regardless of how much it truly accomplishes any act can still teach you something. What it teaches can vary wildly, and while some of those skills/feelings/ideas/etc... may not always serve an immediate personal and practical use, they may serve a purpose down the line or to someone else they are passed onto.
I present you this final closing story to illustrate:
I've had various conversations with my grandfather whom you could say was a down to Earth no-nonsense businessman of the past 80 or so years. He had no particular love or hate of things many of us were interested in, such as Computers, Video Games, and any other media aside from non-fiction or realistic fiction. Most of these conversations were in the realm of politics, general philosophy (without using actual philosophy terms/concepts as he considered it on the same level as fantasy), and business. After one of these conversations with some of my cousins and myself he asked me where I had learned some of the things we were talking about. He was surprised how much we agreed on, and while I know he didn't mean it as an insult, he knew where my general interests lied and they were pretty far from his. And so I explained to him that most of the ideas I had shared or discussed were learned or at least touched upon in the various games I played, books I read, and movies I watched (primarily fantasy and science fiction), and refined through interaction with him and others I've talked to or learned from. He finished with: "I might not get it, but you learned more then your dumb-ass cousin. Guess you're onto something."
Yeah if you really boil it down to bare essentials, it's a waste of time.
So is playing football. You might become a pro-player... but you've more chance of finding rocking-horse shit.
So is working 40+ years, yeah you might earn good money and get a nice house, nice car, trophy wife and 2 bratty kids, but you'll still be worm food after that.
So is playing football. You might become a pro-player... but you've more chance of finding rocking-horse shit.
So is working 40+ years, yeah you might earn good money and get a nice house, nice car, trophy wife and 2 bratty kids, but you'll still be worm food after that.
I think the same when i'm playing the drums it feels like work but when i play games i enjoy myself
