Gays and Homophobia

[bassdrum]

I myself am heterosexual, but I'm a strong proponent of gay rights and all that fun stuff. Discrimination by sexual orientation is equally as wrong as discrimination by race, gender, socioeconomic status, or any of the myriad other reasons people find to be jerks to each other.

As for why I'm for gays/lesbians/bis? Because they're not gays/lesbians/bis to me, they're PEOPLE. I'm not suggesting that any of you see it differently, but I see no reason to think of someone only by their sexual orientation.

 

[LockeDown]

I have no problem with gays and lesbians. Its funny how people pick on homosexuals, but no one makes fun or necropheliacs, pedophiles, zoopheliacs, guro freaks, lolicon fans, scatolphelia, beastiality, and rapists.

No one makes fun of those people because, for the most part, their behavior is illegal. Honestly, bestiality, necrophilia, and pedophilia are serious criminal affairs (which means that anyone "bright" enough to parade their choice of partner in front of anyone is likely to end up behind bars), and the others are so far on the fringe of our society and comprise so few people (not to mention how heavily demonized those behaviors have become) that any activists they might have are just written off as nuts.

Also, I think comparing homosexuals to pedophiles is borderline offensive, though maybe that's just me.

 

[UncertaintyPrinciple]

these kinds of topics typically devolve into an army of nerds restating the same two or three opinions ad infinitum, with a few ongoing back-and-forth discussions here and there to which no one else pays attention.

hence, i will not participate except to show how super clever i am by utilizing my powers of basic pattern recognition.

I was hoping for a diversity of opinions; some based in faith, some in logic. But sadly, for a colourful discussion, everyone so far is open-minded or apathetic

 

[Cain_Zeros]

I'm straight, but I fully support gay rights. Why? Because we're all human, and should all have rights as such.

 

[nekoali]

Well, I'm bisexual (technically pansexual, but many people don't know what that means).

Obviously I'm all for equal rights. Not 'gay' or 'transgeder' rights... EQUAL rights. As in, the same for everybody. Sadly, we don't have that, and in most states LGBT people are second class citizens, basically. Still, better than some countries, where being gay can get you executed by the government...

I would like to speak a bit about something that bothers me.. this whole 'I don't care what you do in private but I don't want to see it' that I hear so often. This is just another form of discrimination. Sure, nobody wants to see people getting sloppy affectionate in public, be they hetero or homosexual... But holding hands, a quick kiss? What's wrong with that? Public affection should not be something that only heterosexual people have the 'right' to.

 

[Nieroshai]

I'm sort-of bi-leaning, hetero by practice since my first love was and is my current girlfriend, but attracted to guys somewhat. It scares the heck out of me for some reason. Attracted and scared at the same time?! And seeing a gay couple of either gender forces that same effect. Maybe it's because I secretly wanted to be a girl as a kid or something?

Anyway, yeah, gay rights FTW. But I don't even think marriage should be a civil institution so no I don't stand for gay marriage because I don't stand for marriage sanctioned by the government. Marriage has been turned from a mutually binding agreement between two(or more?) people to an agreement between that couple and the government. So yeah.

 

[UncertaintyPrinciple]

I have no problem with gays and lesbians. Its funny how people pick on homosexuals, but no one makes fun or necropheliacs, pedophiles, zoopheliacs, guro freaks, lolicon fans, scatolphelia, beastiality, and rapists.

I have no problem with gays and lesbians. Its funny how people pick on homosexuals, but no one makes fun or necropheliacs, pedophiles, zoopheliacs, guro freaks, lolicon fans, scatolphelia, beastiality, and rapists.

No one makes fun of those people because, for the most part, their behavior is illegal. Honestly, bestiality, necrophilia, and pedophilia are serious criminal affairs (which means that anyone "bright" enough to parade their choice of partner in front of anyone is likely to end up behind bars), and the others are so far on the fringe of our society and comprise so few people (not to mention how heavily demonized those behaviors have become) that any activists they might have are just written off as nuts.

Also, I think comparing homosexuals to pedophiles is borderline offensive, though maybe that's just me.

I would say it would be more of a misguided comparsion, many of those involve sex without consent or sex with those who are to yound to properly consent, which causes long term suffering. Homosexuality is a consentual life choice where individuals want and consent to actions preformed in a homosexual relationship.

 

[Fumbleumble]

You want an honest answer from a hetrosexual?

I personally don't give a toss about you either way.. as a section of society you've managed to legitimise yourselves, you're accpted.. Get over yourselves... This hasn't been an issue in 20 years.

Racism and sexism hasn't been an issue for even longer but people are still on guard to ensure that there is no racism or sexism in society. Shouldn't the gay community be allowed to bring attention to the need to protect themselves from discrimination like Black people and women?

Well if you're going to constantly rub peoples face in it then you have to accept that you are going to get some peoples backs up because as a group you can't seem to shut up about it.

TBH.. the constant need for validation (which is what it seems like) is annoying for THAT reason, and if you are disliked then it is because of that need.. not particularly because of what you are.

Be homosexual if that's your bag...but if you're all gonna constantly shout about it, someone (probably me) is gonna tell you to shut up. A lot of people are sick of hearing from you.

There are bigger issues in the world that where you decide to stick your genetalia.

EDIT.. One other thing.. just because someone dislikes what you do (which is entirely their right as much as it is yours to do it).. DOESN'T mean that they fear you or are threatened by you or that they are a 'closet case' themselves.. and using THAT as an arguement against them WILL fucking piss them off.

 

[Andrew Bohan]

Bisexual. I have utter disdain for the gay pride parade ideal and the stereotype flamboyance, you're not helping your own cause. Get over yourself. Two consenting adults should be able to do what they want because sexuality is like an asshole, most people have one. You don't need to tell everyone, you don't need to get in people's faces and other people's shouldn't be an issue to you at all.

 

[Ftaghn To You Too]

Shh! This week's issue of The Gay Agenda says not to draw attention to ourselves, since we're usurping the govern

To show my true thoughts:

I'm straight, and am so for gay rights people have mistaken me for gay for all the times I get pissed off about Homophobia.

 

[Charisma]

these kinds of topics typically devolve into an army of nerds restating the same two or three opinions ad infinitum, with a few ongoing back-and-forth discussions here and there to which no one else pays attention.

hence, i will not participate except to show how super clever i am by utilizing my powers of basic pattern recognition.

I was hoping for a diversity of opinions; some based in faith, some in logic. But sadly, for a colourful discussion, everyone so far is open-minded or apathetic

yeah, well, the thing is that pretty much every single opinion that can reasonably be uttered on a board like this comes down to just those two or three options.

 

[Nexus4]

I'm all for gay/lesbian/other rights. They're people just like the rest of us, and deserve the same treatment the rest of us are entitled to. All the same, however, I'll admit that I still get a little uncomfortable seeing a same-sex couple expressing their affections (though I'll fight tooth and nail for their right to do it).

Maybe I'm weird.

Nah, most people I know, myself included, feel the same way. Having a homosexual uncle myself, I see no problem with homo or bisexuals; but I do still find it a little unnerving seeing it expressed.

 

[Biosophilogical]

The only thing I'm upset about is that I have to re-post my other post from the double-thread.

OT: I'm not for gays/lesbians/bisexuals, just as I am not for heterosexuals/asexuals/demisexuals, so I assume you mean, that I harbour them no ill-will and do not discriminate or think less of them for their sexual orientation, in which case, you are correct, I do not place heterosexuals/homosexuals/bisexuals/asexual/etc on different levels, I consider them equal.

The reason why?
1. What harm does homosexuality/bisexuality/you-get-the-picture cause?
2. Where is the evidence that people are directly responsible for their own sexual orientation?
... yeah that's pretty much it, it doesn't hurt anyone, it isn't counter-productive or detrimental to anybody or anything, and while that in itself is enough, if it ever becomes (for some logic-defying reason) harmful to others then how is that the fault of the *insert sexuality here* individual? So people, no matter their sexuality, cause no harm as an intrinsic quality of their sexuality, nor do they appear to have a level of control over their orientation, so there is neither cause (a.k.a. choice of lifestyle, whether hetero-, homo-, other-) or effect (negative repercussions to sexual orientation), so therefore there is no crime, sin, or harm, and no intention to cause any, so their is neither victim nor culprit and therefore nothing wrong in any way, shape or form.

 

[StBishop]

I only get annoyed by minorities when they seem to seek validation all the time..2 trans-sexual/gender threads and now this.

Maybe I should start a thread..

I'm a raging Hetro.. am I allowed to be proud?

To be honest I'm look for people who have strong belief, for or against, so I can understand why there is such conflict over homosexuality

You want an honest answer from a hetrosexual?

I personally don't give a toss about you either way.. as a section of society you've managed to legitimise yourselves, you're accepted.. Get over yourselves... This hasn't been an issue in 20 years.

Disagree, I know for a fact that I wouldn't be able to have some of the friendships I have if I wasn't heterosexual.

I also know for a fact that there are people who openly harrass and physically assault people for their sexuality. It's still an issue dude.

However, I agree that sometimes it's frustrating having your entire day filled with minorities demanding acceptance when you already treat everyone the same regardless of who they are (not including acting like a dick).
There's still people that have a hard life due to their sexuality/religeon/race/gender/even how they were conceived(IVF vs Natural)/for being adopted etc. in first world countries.

You can't claim that sexuality isn't an issue.

OT: Sexuality doesn't offend me. I try not to offend others about such things. I can't wait for Australia to come out of the dark ages and allow gay marriage.

 

[blankedboy]

I'm sort-of bi-leaning, hetero by practice since my first love was and is my current girlfriend, but attracted to guys somewhat. It scares the heck out of me for some reason. Attracted and scared at the same time?! And seeing a gay couple of either gender forces that same effect. Maybe it's because I secretly wanted to be a girl as a kid or something?

You could be male-to-female bisexual transgender (which is probably the most unlikely sexuality ever), or much more probably (can you use that word that way?), bi-curious. I was bi-curious for about a month before I realised I was probably bi, then I thought about it for a week or so, went into a month of denial, and about a month or two ago I just accepted it. On one hand, the whole ordeal was pretty awesome, on the other hand it was a contributing factor to my current depression (i don't hate myself because i'm bi, it's alot more complicated than that :/), soooooo I'd just say go with the flow, but take it slow.
It rhymes, so it's true? Maybe? I dunno xD

This hasn't been an issue in 20 years.

Eheheheeeh.... sure it hasn't.

 

[KushinLos]

I'm hetero and the only times I've ever been bothered by homosexuals were the times I've been hit on. Beyond that, I really don't give a damn and if I were to get the privilege to conduct marriages, I'd preside over a marriage between homosexuals.

 

[Douchebag intent]

According to this poster I saw "Homophobia is a social disease", so I guess if a person isn't comfortable with something they have a sickness.